The Holy Land of Prophets is Mecca, not Jerusalem (spam consolidated - retitled)

[Mujaheed]

Is this not the Site of the holy house of Solomon? Is Jerusalem not the Holy Sanctuary of all the Prophets of ALLAH? He prayed in The farthest Masajid and the Scholars are unaminous that the Location is The Same Location you say Nabi Sulaymaan built his House for GOD. It would only be befitting that all the Prophets meet at such a location,

A masajid is a place of worship and in the biblical times many of the Masajid even in the 7th century did not have a roof on it, your 20th century does not apply to the scripture.

The Place that you say is the Temple of Solomon is Masjidul AQSA, There is no need to ask a stupid question like when the Mosque was built, it was always there, today it just has a different structure!

[Peter]

Is this not the Site of the holy house of Solomon? Is Jerusalem not the Holy Sanctuary of all the Prophets of ALLAH?

Not according to this thread subject of yours. Mecca is.
Are you now saying that Mecca was not the home of the prophets of the scriptures but the actual Holy Land is?
And that is why Mohammed flew his baraq there?

He prayed in The farthest Masajid and the Scholars are unaminous that the Location is The Same Location you say Nabi Sulaymaan built his House for GOD.

Same area. Not the same location at all. Some believe the Dome of the Rock abomination occupies part of the area that Solomon's temple did, but this isn't the case either. The little "Dome of the Spirits" however, does. It even lines up with the Eastern "Gate Beautiful".
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm#court_without

It would only be befitting that all the Prophets meet at such a location,

God isn't about what an antichrist decides is "befitting" of Him. He is about the way He revealed Himself to mankind. That record of revelation was complete in the 1st century.
The temple was torn down so that mankind would only be able to see one path to God.

A masajid is a place of worship and in the biblical times many of the Masajid even in the 7th century did not have a roof on it, your 20th century does not apply to the scripture.

The Place that you say is the Temple of Solomon is Masjidul AQSA, There is no need to ask a stupid question like when the Mosque was built, it was always there, today it just has a different structure!

That is only a stupid question to someone who wishes to remain ignorant. Calif Omar ordered the building of the mosque. He didn't even arrive in Jerusalem until 639.
History records that the temple mount at the time was being used as a garbage dump. Are you suggesting that Mohammed went inside a mosque just a few years earlier in the middle of a garbage dump?

[Mujaheed]

Not according to you. Mecca is.

According to me as advised by the Prophet Muhammad and to set your ignorant version straightis: The Prophet
Masjid Al-Aqsa - The Second House of Allah on Earth
1, Abu Dharr (ra) reported that he asked the Prophet (saw), "O Messenger of Allah, which Masjid was built first on earth"? The Prophet (saw) replied, "The Sacred Masjid of Makkah". Abu Dharr (ra) again asked, "Which was next"? The Prophet (saw) said, "Masjid Al-Aqsa". Abu Dharr (ra) further asked, "How long was the period between the building of the two Masjids"? The Prophet (saw) said, "Forty years". Apart from these, offer your prayer anywhere when it is time to pray, although excellence is in praying in these Masjids". (Bukhari)

[Peter]

You didn't answer the question.
1. Are you now disagreeing with this article you posted, and saying that Mecca was not the home of the prophets of the scriptures, but that Jerusalem was?
It can't make any sense at all, can it. Even in Mohammedanism. There would have been no need for Mohammed to fly to Jerusalem to tie his baraq to the ring the prophets used, if they were born, lived and died in Mecca.

[Peter]

Not according to you. Mecca is.

According to me as advised by the Prophet Muhammad and to set your ignorant version straightis: The Prophet
Masjid Al-Aqsa - The Second House of Allah on Earth
1, Abu Dharr (ra) reported that he asked the Prophet (saw), "O Messenger of Allah, which Masjid was built first on earth"? The Prophet (saw) replied, "The Sacred Masjid of Makkah". Abu Dharr (ra) again asked, "Which was next"? The Prophet (saw) said, "Masjid Al-Aqsa". Abu Dharr (ra) further asked, "How long was the period between the building of the two Masjids"? The Prophet (saw) said, "Forty years". Apart from these, offer your prayer anywhere when it is time to pray, although excellence is in praying in these Masjids". (Bukhari)

See what happens when you quote 7th and 8th century created fictional poppycock that masquerades as history?
According to those history ignorant, southwest Arabian desert dwelling, 7th and 8th century Islamic authors Adam is supposed to have built the Kaaba yet you seem to be saying that we are to believe that only another forty years passed after Adam, before the temple in Jerusalem was built.
2. Anything seem a little peculiar to you about Mohammed's timeline to you?

[Peter]

A masajid is a place of worship and in the biblical times many of the Masajid even in the 7th century did not have a roof on it, your 20th century does not apply to the scripture.

The Place that you say is the Temple of Solomon is Masjidul AQSA, There is no need to ask a stupid question like when the Mosque was built, it was always there, today it just has a different structure!

That is only a stupid question to someone who wishes to remain ignorant. Calif Omar ordered the building of the mosque. He didn't even arrive in Jerusalem until 639 AD.
History records that the temple mount at the time was being used as a garbage dump.
3. Are you suggesting that Mohammed rode to Jerusalem on his flying baraq and went inside a mosque that was located in a garbage dump?

[Peter]

Mujaheed your strawman tactics are as transparent as your character. I didn't say the language wasn't afro-semitic. I said that Abraham was from UR of Chaldees in Mesopotamia. Languages change and are adapted over time. The decendants of Abraham would have been darker in color though not likely to be black. Over time through the intermarriage with those who came into the Covenant the physical features would have changed and the constant travel would have meant their language changed over time as well ending up as Hebrew. But none of that registers with you because you believe that a man who gave no prophecy or performed a single miracle, who had no witnesses to his "revelations", who lived centuries after the events in question told you otherwise. The Qur'an is an historical joke and should be seen as such. I have had enough of your blah blah blah. Either give a link with evidence for Mecca's existence prior to 4 AD or do not post on this topic anymore.

PS. Perhaps you missed this part.

Turkey and Armenia by Assyrian-Chaldean

Those language groups cover large areas including MUCH of Asia. So thanks for more corroboration on the Ur connection.

Good day.

What does not seem to register with you is that the history given to you is concoted, conforms to made up truths by Godless individuals, you tell a story from a single viewpoint with no references of the actual places.

4. Then please guide us to a source detailing the archaeological evidence that suggests that Mecca ever existed as an "actual place", before the 4th century AD.

[Peter]

In the event any book that is not Euro-centric is brought to you you will argue with known european deviated scholarly works that has confused the world to such a degree that we now have chaos everywhere.

5. We have been begging you to bring us any such a book that references some historical record of Mecca that was penned before the 4th century AD. Like the historical and archaeological evidence that exists for other Arabian towns.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1912.msg8386#msg8386

[Peter]

Follow the Logic, GOD's {People Migrated north to Jerusalem, ......

Nothing could be more illogical since Mecca did not exist before the Christian era.
Additionally, the Old Testament prophets spanned a period of many hundreds of years.
6. Did they "migrate" one by one?
You should know by now that if you are going to make such a preposterous claim you are going to have to back it up with some EVIDENCE.

[Peter]

...... the exodus is from the Homeland to the Place of Peace, not from the place of peace to egypt and back again, Ludicrous history with no historical basis.

Abraham's travels documented in scripture are well supported by archaeology as well. Sane Muslims agree they began in Ur, not 1200 kilometers across harsh Arabian desert from there. Indeed Abraham traveled up to 2,000 kilometers in the OPPOSITE DIRECTION of Mecca, as affirmed by that archaeology.

"Ludicrous" is a view supported by nothing but hot air and words written by some guy in 1984 that even your sane contemporaries never bought into. This includes your unscholarly Islamic so-called "scholars" who even actually believe Abraham, Hagar and Ishmael were in Mecca, without a shred of evidence to suggest that is true.



While some small distances are still in question, it would be ridiculous to suggest that those travels included a town a thousand kilometers away, that was not settled until 1500 years later, and by which an overland route was not even established until most of a thousand years later.

[Peter]

Read the history of the Arabs in Arabic.

Please bring us some.
And I don't mean your 7th and 8th century AD historical fiction, since Islamic history only BEGAN to be recorded, around the time of the year of the elephant.
Amari's first language is Arabic. He explored evidence of lots of ancient Arabian towns. Mecca was absent from those ancient records because it did not exist before the Christian era.

Read another point of view, and get a true perspective of Go's People.

What you are referring to is not "perspective" but rather fantasy.
7. Please bring us a link to another perspective that does not spring out of that late dated Islamic fiction. Something that details the ancient historical and archaeological record of Mecca from reference to ancient records.
We will try Google translator to read it.
The fact is there is no such documentation because it does not exist in Arabic or any other language on earth.
If it did, why do you suppose it would it be kept such a secret? To make Muslims feel foolish?

[Peter]

1. If The Holy Land was Arabia and specifically Mecca why would Muhammad have traveled to Jerusalem in his so-called night journey?
2. If NO ARCHAELOGICAL AND HISTORICAL EVIDENCE for Mecca exists prior to the 4th century AD then how could it have been the epicenter of man's worship of God?

To answer the question without my observation of your character and with love and Patience, in order to draw closer to ALLAH, my understanding is that:
1. Jerusalem is Holy (obviously) as the Prophets (from the Bani Israeel (lineage of Jacob) were instructed to go to Jerusalem) ........

8. Go to Jerusalem from where?
9. From Mecca?
Are you saying the 12 tribes were from Mecca?
10. According to what?
Please bring the evidence of your claim.

[Peter]

1. If The Holy Land was Arabia and specifically Mecca why would Muhammad have traveled to Jerusalem in his so-called night journey?
2. If NO ARCHAELOGICAL AND HISTORICAL EVIDENCE for Mecca exists prior to the 4th century AD then how could it have been the epicenter of man's worship of God?

To answer the question without my observation of your character and with love and Patience, in order to draw closer to ALLAH, my understanding is that:
1. Jerusalem is Holy (obviously) as the Prophets (from the Bani Israeel (lineage of Jacob) were instructed to go to Jerusalem) ........

11. Were all the prophets from Mecca but then migrated to Jerusalem?
12. How do you suppose they did this over the span of so many hundreds of years that they existed?
13. Individually born in Mecca and then walked the 1200 kilometers to Jerusalem one by one over hundreds of years?
Where's the evidence? The same place the evidence of Mecca prior to the Christian era is hiding?

[Peter]

....... and establish the Deen (religion of ALLAH hence the monotheistic belief of the Jews and their complete and utter rejection of the Trinity. Part of the Journey is to meet the Prophets of GOd that came before Muhammad, the meeting place was Masjidul Aqsa.

14. So when was Masjidul Aqsa built?
Google it.
15. It was built after Mohammed was dead. So what "prophets" attended that unholy 7th century building?
Indeed Mohammed lied about going into a (non-existent) mosque to pray, when he lied about riding his flying donkey-mule, to Jerusalem.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1253.0

So your false premise went right out the window. Try again.

[Peter]

There was always a Masjid there, from Abraham building it with Isaac as he did rebuilt Masjidul Haram(Baitullah) It is also the site of another Prophet of ALLAH Nabi Sulaymaan peace be upon him.

Thank you for bringing him up. I was uncertain who you were referring to and so I googled the name and found this wonderful bit of Islamic fiction regarding King Solomon wherein he heard an ant call out to him. Lots more fun than that at the link. A regular Mohammedan Dr. Doolittle!

"THE PLIGHT OF THE ANTS One day when Nabi Sulaiman (alayhis salaam) and his army reached a valley on their way to fight their enemy he heard a tiny ant cry out, “O you ants, hurry seek shelter, hide, the soldiers are coming this way. Quickly take cover or they will trample you to death(27:18).” When he heard these cries of warning from the tiny ant he stopped his army and asked his men to be very careful not to kill the tiny ants. He smiled at the wisdom of this ant..."

http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2112.0

[Peter]

The Prophets are all connected as the Muslim Ummah is one body. The preceding prophets laid the foundations for the later ones.

We do find a progressive revealing of YHWH to His people over 1600 years. That progression is how we know that Mohammed's ungodly murder, prisoner rape, and theft - that came along 1500 years after even the old covenant saints had ended the suggestion of use of the sword in God's service, let along the message of the peace of the Gospel - is how we know Mohammed was a false prophet.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=935.0

[Peter]

The core belief and obedience to ALLAH was lost with translations and interpretations and doctrines written by men, hence the need for messengers and good men to be sent as lberators (from tyrant oppressors), warners (against evil and deviation) and bringers of glad tidings (Injeel of nabi EESA AND MUHAMMAD).

But it is the ultimate folly to believe that after revealing Himself over 1600 years through ALL of His prophets and witnesses, that He would then turn around 500 years after that record was closed, to perfectly contradict it, and reveal the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, through a 7th century murdering, raping, thief.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=53.0

Rev 22:18    For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

[Peter]

It is not difficult to understand when you seek knowledge with your objective: submission to The Creator of the everything in existence, the lord of the Universe, king of the Day of Judgement,The Unique One without a beginning nor and ending, The most merciful the Most benevolent ALLAH.

My friend, in light of the 1600 year record of YHWH to His people, it is not difficult to see that Mohammed was inspired by Satan, since he WAS and taught the EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus Christ and the Gospel.
That it is the father of lies plan, to have as many join him in perdition, as he can deceive.
That is who you are submitted to, Mohammed's alter-ego "Allah" my friend, not YHWH.

[Peter]

What does not seem to register with you is that the history given to you is concoted, .......

But you exactly described Islamic "tradition".
You have yet to bring a single shred of evidence that suggests that the entirety of Islamic "tradition" regarding Mecca prior to the Christian era, is anything more than a pure fictional creation of the 7th and 8th century.

........ conforms to made up truths by Godless individuals, ........

Indeed much of Amari's information comes from Godless individuals. Some of his bibliographies are composed almost entirely of Islamic authors. Hardly Euro-centric.
You've raised even so many more unsupported claims that it is going to take a long time just to work out the issues on this page, let alone the unanswered stuff from the prior page, some of which I partially agree with like.....
"What does not seem to register with you is that the history given to you is concoted, conforms to made up truths by Godless individuals...." http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2057.msg8759#msg8759
I would have to agree with regard to the papers on Islam since, in Rafat Amari's case, he had to rely so heavily on the Hadith, Islamic reporters and Islamic so-called "scholars", as evidenced by his bibliographies as in these examples.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1267.msg4917#msg4917
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1784.msg7347#msg7347
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1133.0

16. Please click on the above links and tell me what kind of authors they are.

........ you tell a story from a single viewpoint with no references of the actual places.

As everyone can see from the bibliographies above, this is just another one of your empty false accusations.

In the event any book that is not Euro-centric is brought to you you will argue with known european deviated scholarly works....

But the only information available on early Islamic history - that is necessarily labeled "tradition" since it is all bunk - comes from the pens of 7th and 8th century AD southwest Arabian desert dwellers, my friend.

[Peter]

.....that has confused the world to such a degree that we now have chaos everywhere.

Isn't it funny how blind you are?

17. Please explain to us the the rape, pillage and plunder of the imperialistic conquest of the first Islamic jihad all the way up to France and Austria.

18. Please explain to us why Mohammed's true followers of today, continue the rape pillage and plunder, with 2 million killed in the Sudan alone.

Almost everywhere we find "chaos everywhere", that is murder, mayhem and misery in the world today, we find Mohammed's followers behaving like ......... Mohammed! With over 16,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world, just since 9-11.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=731.0

It cannot be argued that Benjamin Netanyahu was 100% accurate when he declared, "If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons  today, there would be no more Israel"

[Peter]

Upon your return from the vacation admin imposed on you please answer the prior posts - in order - and wait for replies to your replies, before moving on to any other threads. I numbered the points for your convenience.
If you try to distract yourself or us with other topics you will find yourself on another vacation.
We need to exhaust the discussion on this thread before you are allowed to post more of your blasphemy elsewhere.
 Your last effort on this thread consisted of little more than additional unsubstantiated claims, which now also require defending. I recommend you not expand the scope of subjects further to save confusion. But then chaos and confusion are the allies of Mohammed's religion.
Please begin with #1 at the following link.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2057.msg8821#msg8821

[Peter]

A YouTuber gave me a link to this book at Amazon. I found the following amusing review:
http://www.amazon.ca/Bible-Came-Arabia-Kamal-Salibi/dp/0330295195

2 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Best crackpot theory I've ever read, Mar 22 2002
By
Jomo Mojo (Cleveland, OH) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Bible Came Frm Arabia (Hardcover)
Most crackpot theories tend to be slapdash, clumsy affairs. Not so Kamal Salibi's exquisitely well-wrought thesis: he has the philological skills to meticulously analyze hundreds of comparative Semitic roots and reinterpret ancient Hebrew in the light of Arabic. The consonantal outlines of Semitic writing make this possible, bringing into sharp relief the similarities between different Semitic languages and obscuring the differences. I've studied enough comparative Semitics myself to appreciate how ingeniously he handles the subject. Salibi was clever enough to knit together a huge number of Semitic roots into a widespread texture of highly realistic imaginary geography closely overlaid on the real geography. It was almost as though he had bent the earth's crust, bringing together Canaan and southwest Arabia to achieve this overlay. There are some circumstantial considerations to corroborate The Bible Came from Arabia. One is the phenomenon of "land-nama": people who migrate to a new land superimpose on it names remembered from the old country (for example, all the Old World names used in America, including many Biblical names). Also, travelers to 'Asir have remarked on the mystical impression its fertility made on them amidst the surrounding desert--as though it could have been the prototype for the Garden of Eden. Salibi's ingenious skill at tying together so many philological and geographical strands almost had me believing it. Against my better judgment, he made me want to believe it. This is the mark of a superior quality crackpot theory. Read this wonderful book if only for an example of the prodigies the human brain is capable of.

[Mujaheed]

I took time to reflect on the time and effort you are spending on trying to prove things with nothing but conjecture, You asking me to prove that Makkah existed due to Abraham and Ismael and I come to you with evidence that is much older and more authentic than any of your sources. Your failure to believe is not my fault and it is merely your loss due to your ignorance. No post that is in this forum has any credibility as it is based upon conjecture. The holy lands are Jerusalem, Makkah and Madina. These are the epicenters of the greatest benefit to mankind. Please read the history of your bible carefully and reflect upon the history of prophets carefully. The slander and misguided attempts to prove a point and to refute evidence based upon futile arguments is no way to conduct yourself. MAKKAH exists because of an instruction by God to Prophet Abraham, to rebuild the first House of worship constructed by the Prophet Adam. You cannot deny that the greatest gathering takes place there every year. It is the most visited holy site since the time of Abraham. Just because you cannot find evidence does not make it less than it is, It means that you are unable to bring evidence to the contrary of what is being said. Your failure does not in any way compel me to change the way I believe. Your conjecture does not allow you to embrace the truth.

[Peter]

DO NOT post in any more threads in this forum until you answer the following post in this one.
You have posted several points in this post that should keep us going for many days if not weeks.

EVERY post in which you fail to use the quote function properly will be sent to your spam thread.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3298.msg13861#msg13861
Please READ the section under "quoting" at this link:
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=39.0
Push the quote button, then copy the upper left tag and paste it after - to the right of - the last [ /quote] tag, and then copy the pair of tags and paste it into the post anywhere you wish to break it.

I took time to reflect on the time and effort you are spending on trying to prove things with nothing but conjecture, You asking me to prove that Makkah existed due to Abraham and Ismael .......

That's ridiculous since the scriptural, historical, archaeological and geographical EVIDENCE tell us that Abraham was never within 1,000 of where Mecca was eventually settled, and he walked the earth over 1500 years before the first person ever lived in Mecca.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1213.0
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=68.0

Simply parroting nonsense from your 7th to 10th century AD created Muhammadan fiction, that masquerades as thousands of years of pre-Muhammad history, will never make your empty and hollow claims magically come true, my friend. The truth hasn't changed just because you've been away for a little while.

......... and I come to you with evidence that is much older and more authentic than any of your sources.

If you are referring to the nonsense in the original post of this thread, what you brought was a foolish 1984 paper. Hardly old or authentic but rather a preposterous pile of false presumption with no archaeological support whatsoever, while THE Holy Land of Jerusalem is perfectly attested in the archaeological record.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=68.0
 If you are referring to something else please explain and provide links to this "much older and more authentic" "evidence" that you have provided.

Your failure to believe is not my fault and it is merely your loss due to your ignorance.

But surely you can see that it is you that ignores THE Holy Land and the scriptures that are supported by the historical, archaeological and geographical records, in favor of the pens of 8th to 10th century AD semi-literate SW Arabian desert dwellers.

No post that is in this forum has any credibility as it is based upon conjecture.

How can you post something so patently false? Can't even you see that is Satan speaking for you? And again, simply repeating something won't make it magically come true.
This forum is full of historical, archaeological, and geographical support for the scriptures including, most importantly, the proof of the scriptures through fulfilled prophecy.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=43.0
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/the_lamb_slain.htm

The holy lands are Jerusalem, Makkah and Madina.

Certainly the scriptural, historical and archaeological EVIDENCE bears out Jerusalem THE Holy Land of the prophets and patriarchs.
Makkah, however only dates back to the 4th century CE, and even Medina only dates back to the 6th century BC - over HALF A MILLENNIUM AFTER Abraham.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medina#History

These are the epicenters of the greatest benefit to mankind. Please read the history of your bible carefully and reflect upon the history of prophets carefully.

As Christians that's exactly what we do.

The slander and misguided attempts to prove a point and to refute evidence based upon futile arguments is no way to conduct yourself.

Sadly it is TRUTH that you characterize as slander. Old Testament prophecy of the coming Messiah and His crucifixion was fulfilled.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAQHFVn7H2Q

Muhammad 7 centuries later Muhammad proclaimed the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel. THIS CANNOT BE DENIED.

MAKKAH exists because of an instruction by God to Prophet Abraham, to rebuild the first House of worship constructed by the Prophet Adam.

Please inform us as to ALL the sources from which you derive this scripture contrary historical record.

You cannot deny that the greatest gathering takes place there every year.

I cannot deny that the Saudis profit the very same way that the Quraish pagan's and Muhammad's uncle profited, from hosting people to come and engage in Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn-devil worship rituals around their Kaaba. Venerating the very same black stone idol that the Arabian pagan's venerated.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1050.0

Please watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujUOZyrnewE



Around the very same Kaaba that was filled with human sewage on several occasions.

It is the most visited holy site since the time of Abraham.

Sorry, but only since the Yemeni pagan immigrants set up shop in the 4th century AD.

Just because you cannot find evidence does not make it less than it is, It means that you are unable to bring evidence to the contrary of what is being said.

ALL the EVIDENCE is EXACTLY CONTRARY to Islam's ridiculous claims.

Your failure does not in any way compel me to change the way I believe.

I am powerless my friend. Only Jesus can change your heart. All you have to do is honestly and sincerely ask Him.

Mat 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

Your conjecture does not allow you to embrace the truth.

You will not find truth the THE false prophet Muhammad's recycled Quraish/Arabian paganism.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

[Peter]

1. Please list ALL the sources from which you derive the following 6,000 year historical record.

MAKKAH exists because of an instruction by God to Prophet Abraham, to rebuild the first House of worship constructed by the Prophet Adam.

2. What is the whole subject of the Gospel?

Every post that does not answer directly to the two questions above will be sent to spam.