@irooni100 "...he no longer responds to me,because i have kicked his rear end before." How can an Islamic apostate kick anybody's rear? I invited you ad nauseum to come to the forum and explain why you bow to the Quraish's black stone idol, in their 5th century AD Kaaba, yet you were too much of a coward to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-PDQFTzNTc I ask you why it is you run back and forth between al-Safa and al-Marwah as the Arabian jinn devil worshipers did and you are rendered mute.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfWy5KaFvbU PeteWaldo 16 hours ago
@Pete
you ask,Why o we run between Safa & marwah ? simple.!
Hagar (AS) mother of Ishmael run for water for her child & she was looking at the desert seeing water,but there was no water & god saw the effort that she put into searching for water & gave her the strength to carry on while the Satan was telling her that your God has Abandoned you,but she kept her Faith with God,until she came to find that God has opened up a stream of water for her,under the feet of Ishmael.Yes God put People to TEST
irooni100 13 hours ago
@irooni100 "you ask,Why o we run between Safa & marwah ? simple.!
Hagar (AS) mother of Ishmael run for water for her child & she was looking at the desert seeing water...."
Simple? Abraham, Hagar, Sarah Ishmael and Isaac lived in Hebron - in THE Holy Land - about 1200 KILOMETERS AWAY FROM MECCA.
So first you are going to have to explain how Hagar and Ishmael traveled 1200 KM to Mecca, about 900 years before the first caravan route was ever established along the Red Sea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-PDQFTzNTc PeteWaldo 12 hours ago
@Pete
NOW; Why dont you tell us how that lady hagar carried a 16 YEARS OLD BOY & A BOTTLE OF WATER AND WALKED 1200 KM.?
WHILE YOU HAVE EXPLAIN HOW SHE HIDE A 16 YEARS OLD BOY ALMOST 6 FEET TALL UNDER SOME SHRUBS ?DO YOU EVER READ YOUR OWN BIBLE ?OR YOU JUST GET HIGH WITH A 6 PACK & SOME WEEDS ?
irooni100 12 hours ago
@irooni100 "NOW; Why dont you tell us how that lady hagar carried a 16 YEARS OLD BOY & A BOTTLE OF WATER AND WALKED 1200 KM.?"
Thanks for making my point. How DID Hagar and Ishmael travel from the Wilderness of Beersheba, just below Hebron, across 1200 kilometers of harsh, barren, uncharted desert to Mecca, almost a thousand years before history tells us the first caravan made that trip overland along the Red Sea?
How DID they wander 1200 kilometers on a single skin of water?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_fX_kuVER4 PeteWaldo 11 hours ago
@Pete
How DID they wander 1200 kilometers on a single skin of water?
ASK THOSE WHO WROTE YOUR BIBLE .
THEN AGAIN ASK THEM HOW DID SHE CARRY A 16 YEARS OLD BOY WITH THE BOTTLE ANY WAY ?
YOU KEEP ANSWERING QUESTIONS WITH QUESTIONS AGAIN ?BUDDY YOU NEED TO STOP SMOKING WHAT EVER YOU SMOKE. YOU ARE GETTING WORSE DAY BY DAY.
irooni100 11 hours ago
@irooni100 "How DID they wander 1200 kilometers on a single skin of water? ASK THOSE WHO WROTE YOUR BIBLE ." I showed you the verse. IT'S YOU trying to suggest that Hagar wandered 1200 kilometers to Mecca. Bible says that she wandered in the Wilderness of Beersheba - located just below Abraham's home in Hebron where Jews, Christians AND Muslims visit Abraham's grave.
It is a bunch of 7TH CENTURY semi-literate SW Arabian desert dwelling "tradition" CREATORS that suggested she wandered to Mecca.
PeteWaldo 11 hours ago
@Pete
IT IS YOUR OWN BIBLE WHICH IT IS WRITTEN ABRAHAM TOOK HIS WIFE HAGAR WITH HER SON IN THE MIDDLE OF WILDNESS WITH JUST A BOTTLE OF WATER ON FOOT.SO YOU SHOT YOUR OWN SELF IN THE LEG,BUDD.NOW TELL ME THIS IS HEBRON NEAR A WILDNESS ?
NOW; NEVER MIND THIS JUST ANSWER MY QUESTIONS.
irooni100 11 hours ago
@irooni100 "TELL ME THIS IS HEBRON NEAR A WILDNESS?" Yes it was the Wilderness of Beersheba, located about 1200 KILOMETERS NNW or Mecca. Google it.
Gen 21:14 And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave [it] unto Hagar, putting [it] on her shoulder, and the child, and sent her away: and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beersheba.
Do you understand? 1200 KILOMETERS AWAY FROM MECCA
Please watch the video watch?v=J_fX_kuVER4
PeteWaldo 11 hours ago
@Pete
YES I UNDERSTAND 1200 KILOMETERS ,BUT DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU BIBLE IS CORRUPTED ? DID HE JUST THROW THEM OUT OF HIS HOME ? HELL NO.
DID HE JUST SEND THEM TO NEIGHBORS HOUSE ? HELL NO
WHAT FORM OF TRANSPORTATION WAS AVAILABLE TO THE ? CAMEL .DONKEY,HORSE,MULE,
WHY YOU BIBLE DOES NOT SAY ANY THING ABOUT THAT ? AGAIN HOW DID SHE PUT A 16 YEARS OLD BOY ON HER SHOULDER WITH BOTTLE OF WATER?
HOW DID SHE COVE A 6 FT TALL BOY UNDER SHRUB ?
HOW TALL DO THE SHRUBS GROW IN THE WILDNESS ?
irooni100 11 hours ago
@Pete
GENESIS 16;16-----And Abram was fourscore and six years old, when Hagar bare Ishmael to Abram.
SO ABRAM WAS 86 YEARS OLD WHEN ISHMAEL WAS BORN.
GENESIS 16;15---And Hagar bare Abram a son: and Abram called his son's name, which Hagar bare, Ishmael.
THIS PROVES ISHMAEL WAS HIS FIRST BORN ,,,,,,,SON
GENESIS 21;5------And Abraham was an hundred years old, when his son Isaac was born unto him.
THIS PROVES AT THE TIME ISAAC WAS BORN , ABRAM WAS 100 , SO ISHMAEL WAS 14 YEARS OLD
CONTINUE
irooni100 10 hours ago
@Pete
GENESIS 21; 8-19
8-And the child grew, and was weaned: and Abraham made a great feast the same day that Isaac was weaned.
Weaned, means stop breast feeding ,SO This would make ISAAC About One year of age or Possibly TWO ,inturn make ISHMAEL ,,,,,15 YEARS OLD ,,,,,,,or 16 YEARS OLD.please read on.
9-And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, which she had born unto Abraham, mocking.
10-Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of
CONTINUE
irooni100 10 hours ago
@irooni100 "WHY YOU BIBLE DOES NOT SAY ANY THING ABOUT THAT ? AGAIN HOW DID SHE PUT A 16 YEARS OLD BOY ON HER SHOULDER WITH BOTTLE OF WATER?"
Is this supposed to move Mecca closer to THE Holy Land? Create a caravan route? Stand in for thousands of years of nonexistent pre-muhammad history of Mecca?
Hagar and Ishmael put the bread and water over their shoulders.
Since Hagar was Sarah's slave she would have had the strength to carry young Ishmael for a little while and sling him under a shrub.
PeteWaldo 10 hours ago
@Pete
WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THE BOY? DID HE HAVE A QUARTER UNDER HIS FOOT,COULD MOVE ?
HEY. THIS JEWISH BOY WAS BEING BEATEN BY 4 TEENAGERS & HE KEEP FIGHTING WITH ONE FOOT ON A SPOT.HIS DADDY SHOWED UP & ASK HIM,WHY DONT YOU MOVE & FIGHT BACK ,HE TOLD HIS DADD, I HAD MY FOOT ON A QUARTER ,IF I MOVED THEY WOULD TAKE IT FROM ME .
SO WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THIS BIBLE BOY OF YOURS WHO SAT & MOM HAD TO GET HIM SOME WATER ?WAS HE STUCK UNDER A 12 INCH SHURB ?
YOU ARE BUNCH OF FOOLS !
irooni100 10 hours ago
@irooni100 "YES I UNDERSTAND 1200 KILOMETERS ,BUT DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU BIBLE IS CORRUPTED?"
I see, so the Bible, that offers a perfectly sound account of Abraham, Hagar, Ishmael and Isaac, that is supported by archaeology and the physical unchangable geography is corrupted.
While an account CREATED by a bunch of SW Arabian desert dwelling semi-literates, who made their nonsense up 2,000 years after the event - that is a geographical impossibility - is trustworthy? See what I mean?
PeteWaldo 10 hours ago
@Pete
18-Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him in thine hand; for I will make him a great nation.
19-And God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water; and she went, and filled the bottle with water, and gave the lad drink.
I SURE LIKE TO SEE AN OLD LADY LIFT UP A 15 YEARS OLD BOY BEING SON OF ABRAHAM MAKES HIM AT LEAST 200 LBS. !
WOW !
OH YES .15 YEARS OLD BOY JUST SIT FOR MOM TO BRING WATER ?
WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAP !
irooni100 10 hours ago
@irooni100 "WHAT FORM OF TRANSPORTATION WAS AVAILABLE TO THE ? CAMEL .DONKEY,HORSE,MULE,"
Before you explain to us how Hagar rode a camel 1200 kilometers from Hebron to Mecca, perhaps you could tell us WHY she would?
Let alone that the caravan route wasn't established along the Red Sea until about 900 years after Hagar lived. Do you see the trouble you get into when you depend on a bunch of 7TH CENTURY FICTION CREATED by a bunch of SW Arabian desert dwelling semi-literates?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR3Bla8YwbU PeteWaldo 10 hours ago
@Pete
16-And she went, and sat her down over against him a good way off, as it were a bow shot: for she said, Let me not see the death of the child. And she sat over against him, and lift up her voice, and wept.
17-And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, What aileth thee, Hagar? fear not; for God hath heard the voice of the lad where he is.
CRYING 15 YEARS OLD BABY ? AND MOM LIFTED HIM UP ?
COME ON NOW !
LITTLE BABY !!
irooni100 10 hours ago
@irooni100 "DID HE JUST THROW THEM OUT OF HIS HOME ? HELL NO."
Of course he did, and with Yahweh's blessing, because Yahweh's covenant is with the seed of ISAAC - ABRAHAM'S WIFE SARAH'S SON, NOT with Ishmael, the son of Sarah's servant Hagar.
Gen 21:12 And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.
watch?v=J_fX_kuVER4
PeteWaldo 10 hours ago
@Pete
14-And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave it unto Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, and the child, and sent her away: and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beersheba.
REMEMBER ; ISHMAEL WAS 15 OR 16 YEARS OLD
15-And the water was spent in the bottle, and she cast the child under one of the shrubs.
REMEMBER ; ISHMAEL WAS 15 OR 16 YEARS OLD
CONTINUE
irooni100 10 hours ago
@Pete
11-And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son.
12-And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.
Rom 9:7 Gal 3:16 Heb 11:18
13-And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed.(( AGAIN THE PROOF THAT ISHMAEL IS HIS SON ))
CONMTINUE
irooni100 10 hours ago
@Pete
AND YES;
Since Hagar was Sarah's slave she would have had the strength to carry young Ishmael for a little while and sling him under a shrub.
IF SHE CAN SLING A 15 YEARS OLD BOY ,SHE SHE SHOULD BE ALSO ABLE TO DRAG HIM 1400 KILOMETERS TOO.& WHY NOT ? SHE MUST BE ONE STRONG SLAVE LADY .I WONDER HOW SHE WOUND UP WITH A WIMPY BOY ?
HA,HA,HA,.HA,HA,
irooni100 10 hours ago
@Pete
YOU WROTE;
Since Hagar was Sarah's slave she would have had the strength to carry young Ishmael for a little while and sling him under a shrub.
COME ON MAN, WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM ? A 15 0R16 YEARS OLD BOY WILL " NEVER " RIDE ON HIS MOMA. ARE YOU STUPID ?
HOW CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS BULL sh*t ?
YOU MADE ME LAUGH !
IF IT COME TO SPREADING BULL sh*t ,YOU CAN ALWAYS WIN !
CAN YOU SHOW ME WHERE IN THE WORLD A 15 YEARS OLD BOY RIDES ON HIS MOM? UNLESS HE IS LAME !
irooni100 10 hours ago
@irooni100 You go on and on about Hagar and Ishmael carrying water and bread,
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=1557.0
while you haven't explained how Hagar and Ishmael wandered across 1200 kilometers of desert to Mecca, 900 years before the first caravan ever did
Or brought a SHRED of EVIDENCE to suggest that Mecca ever existed before pagan immigrants built it in the 4th century AD.
Or why it is that you prostrate yourself to the Quraish's black stone idol in their pagan kaaba, 5 times a day.
PeteWaldo 10 hours ago
@Pete
while you haven't explained how Hagar and Ishmael wandered across 1200 kilometers of desert to Mecca, 900 years before the first caravan ever did.
YOU EXPLAINED YOURSELF.
SHE WAS HELL OF A SLAVE LADY ,SHE SLING HER 16 YEARS OLD BOY & CARRIED HER MOST OF THE WAY.WHY YOU KEEP ASKING ME ?
NOW WHO TOLD YOU THIS BULL sh*t ABOUT 900 YEARS & CARAVAN ?
ARABS WERE ALWAYS ON THE MOVE BUDDY BOY.YES IN THE WINTER THEY WENT SOUTH & SUMMER THEY MOVE NORTH & THEY USE TO LIVE IN TENTS MOST OF THEIR LIVES
irooni100 9 hours ago
@PeteWaldo
NOW;
WHY DONT YOU ANSWER MY QUESTIONS ?
DO YOU NEED ANOTHER KICK IN YOUR REAR END ?
FOR THE THIRD TIMES;
WHERE DID JESUS SAY .I WILL RETURN & PICK A MAN NAME PAUL & HIS STUDENT LUKE TO GUIDE YOU OR REPLACE THEM FOR JUDAS ?
WHY DO YOU THINK EATING BREAD & DRINKING WINE IS PARTS OF YOUR GOD( NAOZOBILLAH),THEN YOU GO AFTER 4 OR 5 HOURS TO THE TOILET ? WHAT KIND OF RESPECT IS THIS IN YOUR RELIGION ?
JUST ANSWER THESE OR OTHERWISE SHUT THE HELL UP .I WILL NOT POST ANY MORE IF YOU FAIL.
irooni100 9 hours ago
@irooni100 Once again, accelerating your blasphemy against the one true God Yahweh, won't magically create thousands of years of pre-muhammad history of Mecca from thin air, even as other ancient Arabian towns are very well attested in the historical and archaeological records.
Yet Mecca is supposed to have been the EPICENTER of Muhammad's phony cult since the beginning of the world!
Antichrist spirit breaking your mind so, you prostrate yourself to the Quraish's black stone idol 5 times a day.
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In conclusion as an appeal to Muslims arriving to the YouTube after irooni100
In the wake of irooni100's epic failure, will arriving Muhammadans please list the reasons you
1 Prostrate yourself to the Quraish pagan's black stone idol 5 times a day.
2 Run back and forth between Safa and Marwah as Arabian jinn devil worshipers did
3 Believe PURE FICTION CREATED by a bunch of semi-literate 7th and 8th century SW Arabian desert dwellers that masquerades as thousands of years of pre-muhammad history.
4 Explain how & why Hagar wandered across 1200 kilometers of desert to Mecca.
PeteWaldo 10 minutes ago
5 Present some historical or archaeological EVIDENCE that suggests that the town of Mecca - this supposed EPICENTER of Muhammadanism allegedly since Adam - ever existed before the 4th century AD when Yemeni immigrants settled the area, and built their kaaba in the early 5th century for moon, sun, star and jinn devil worship.
watch?v=ujUOZyrnewE
watch?v=F-PDQFTzNTc
watch?v=xfWy5KaFvbU
historyofmecca. com
Perhaps you'll come to understand that SOLE REASON is THE false prophet Muhammad.
PeteWaldo 5 seconds ago
Reviewing the prior exchange and irooni100's reasons it can be concluded that:
He rejects and blasphemes the 1600 year record of Yahweh to mankind that His people have followed through two covenants for 3500 years, because he follows Muhammad.
He follows Muhammad because he believes the PURE UNHISTORICAL FICTION, even including flying donkey-mules, CREATED by a bunch of semi-literate 7th and 8 th century SW Arabian desert dwellers, that masquerades as thousands of years of pre-muhammad history.
PeteWaldo 16 seconds ago
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@urheadonastick
I would NEVER believe that STUPID Religion of yours ,Even if the Gold of the whole universe was given to me. Because you Christianity is VOID,STUPID,& DAMN RIGHT f**kED UP!
irooni100 1 day ago
@irooni Then before considering another religion why don't you first get over the false prophet Muhammad's STAND-ALONE cult, and save yourself all that prostrating and praying the vain repetitions of the heathen, to the Quraish pagan's rock idol. After all, in order to accept Muhammadanism in the first place one must void one's mind of historical, archaeological and geographical matters of fact, until one's intellect becomes that of a 7th century desert dwelling illiterate.
watch?v=ujUOZyrnewE
PeteWaldo 1 day ago
@PigWaldo
Reviewing Exchanges with pig. Waldo.i find him to be very IGNORANT About faith in God.He surly proved to be a STUPID ZIONIST on you tube.who only uses the name yahweh to spread his hatred towards Islam .
I recommend all my Muslim brothers to STAND UP TO IDIOTS LIKE HIM who does not have any understanding of Religions even the one he claims.
irooni100 1 day ago
@irooni Reviewing our exchange..
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=2591.0
... your Muslim brothers will find that when I asked you to produce some evidence that suggests Mecca existed before the 4th century AD, you could only "stand up" by replying with cursing and name calling, demonstrating that your mind hasn't matured beyond a 13 year old's. Your cursing shows that you aren't even a Muslim. The only reason I chat with unregenerates like you is for the benefit of Muslim read-only participants seeking truth.
PeteWaldo 1 second ago
@irooni100 "...who only uses the name yahweh to spread his hatred towards Islam."
I use the name Yahweh because that is the name of the one true God as it occurs nearly 7,000 times in His 1600 year record. You use the name of the Quraish pagan's god "Allah".
I hate Islam because Muhammad filled his followers with complete resolve as to what to DISbelieve. Compelled them to DENY the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel of the Messiah. I hate the things that Yahweh hates because I'm a Christian.
PeteWaldo 1 sec ago
