Thank you very much. :-)
I have excerpted these lines from a recently uploaded video. The men of Science & Reason which Islamic Propogandists like to claim for themselves were due IN SPITE of Islam NOT BECAUSE OF it!!
If Islam is so SCIENTIFIC and not WASTEFULLY SUPERSTITIOUS why have poor Muslims languished in the dark ignorance for 600 years while the West developed Science?
Many Muslims want and wanted real Science, real Philosophy. Howso did Islam hold them back? Quite a broad question.
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Video: Medieval Skeptics of Islam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL5eJZNixR0Quotes From Medieval Skeptics of Islam Video:
The complex ritualistic absurdity of Islam causes exasperation in men of learning:
Al-Ma’arri (c.973-1057) Syrian Philosopher
“Do not suppose the statements of the prophets to be true; they are all fabrications. Men lived comfortably till they came and spoiled life. The sacred books are only such a set of idle tales as any age could have and indeed did actually produce.
They all err—Muslims, Christians, Jews, and Magians: There are two types that make up humanity: Intelligent men without religion, and religious men without intellect.â€
Here is exactly the sentiment Arabic-speaking Christians and Apostates in the West express about Islam today:
Muhammad ibn Zakariya al-Razi (865-925)
“You claim that the evidentiary miracle is present and available, namely, the Qu’ran. You say: “Whoever denies it, let him produce a similar one.â€
Indeed, we shall produce a thousand more similar, from the works of rhetoricians, eloquent speakers and valiant poets, which are more appropriately phrased and state the issues more succinctly. They convey the meaning better and their rhymed prose is in better meter!
…By God what you say astonished us! You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation. Then you say: ‘Produce something like it?!â€
That’s a great one, isn’t it?
On the sense of an easy and purely natural conspiracy lying behind the origins of the Qu’ran:
Ibn al-Rawandi (c.827-911) Afghani Scholar
“At the time of the performance of a supposed miracle only a small number of people could be close enough to the Prophet to observe his deeds. Reports given such a small number of people cannot be trusted, for such a small group can easily have conspired to lie. The Muslim tradition thus falls into the category of flimsy traditions, those based on a single authority rather than on multiple authorities. These religious traditions are lies endorsed by conspiracies.
Muhammad’s own presuppositions and system show that religious traditions are not trustworthy. The Jews and Christians say that Jesus really died, but the Quran contradicts them. If statements made by so many people cannot be trusted, all the more so the testimony of a handful of people like Muhammad’s followers.â€
(Final note: I left Muhammad ibn Zakariya al-Razi’s “God!†exclamation in there because he is not referring to your God YHWH.)
