Allah - the one ... who confounds all human understanding

[Peter]

I broke this out for you.

Are you having fun with me?

You may think it's funny today, but what does scripture say about the false prophet Muhammad and his Islamic kingdom "beast"?

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

You will erase the things I wrote don't you. You are not even reading what I write.

You are not even answering this...

I was in the process when you repeated it. I don't erase things in the forum. We have had people come in here and keep ignoring my replies and posting new material instead. If they persist I put their posts in storage until they answer to the posts they are ignoring. Please read forum decorum. You are not even reading what I write.

It is you that has been ignoring my posts, and ignoring the verses I have shown you from your own books.

I asked you repeatedly to please show us where the Gospel calls Christians to fight and slay non-Christians.

See, you are not readin what I wrote. I answerd tham all. I said hadises and the people are not the representative of Allah. And why I don't point things in Bible is, even the Bible has been changed there can be some words of Allah in it.

You don't realize this but what you are saying is that you wish that God wasn't a God of love as revealed in the Gospel as I showed you in this prior post:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3098.msg12575#msg12575

But that you instead wish that Muhammad hadn't lied in the following verse....

Sura 9.111 Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah. then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.

..... so that the sinless Messiah, the Prince of Peace, the Lamb of God and His true followers, would be revealed as being as evil, murderous and hateful as the false prophet Muhammad and his fellow cutthroats were.

You wish that the Gospel revealed the sinless Messiah, as the Quran and Hadith reveal Muhammad, as an imperialistic conquering, mass murdering, female prisoner abusing, child doing, self-admitted terrorist, thief in Islam's own books - and as continued by his true followers today.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=51.0
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=466.0

[Bornao]

Just the same reason that the Enghish people conquered America. Same reason Italian and so on did.
Was that your question?

The difference is that those expansions into the Americas were not considered a religious duty by those that traveled there. My question is if warfare and the spread of Islam isn't considered legitimate by this method why did the Caliphs do so following Muhammad's death? Why did Muhammad use this method if it isn't a legitimate means of spreading the faith?

Brother, my cousin is married with a Native Indian. Don't tell me about it.

[Peter]

Resisting, I'm sorry, I did it again. ("modified" instead of "quote") I erased your post when I tried to add:
Even while Muhammad was still alive he and his followers conquered nearly the whole of Arabia.

Could you please quote him and approximate your post again? It started "Be that as it may..."

[Bornao]

You don't realize this but what you are saying is that you wish that God wasn't a God of love as revealed in the Gospel as I showed you in this prior post:

If you are tying to say the God you believe is does't love. Or Allah is full of hate.
No, we start everything with Bismillah. "In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful."
I can't tell how many times the word love passes in Quran. Maybe more than 100 times.

Surah The Cow2/195

195.    And spend of your substance in the cause of Allah, and make not your own hands contribute to (your) destruction; but do good; for Allah loveth those who do good.

Sura 9.111 Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah. then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.

Brother if, what you see at this ayeth, "Go kill and die for Allah" you are wrong. If you continue you see it.

112.    Those that turn (to Allah) in repentance; that serve Him, and praise Him; that wander in devotion to the Cause of Allah,: that bow down and prostrate themselves in prayer; that enjoin good and forbid evil; and observe the limit set by Allah.- (these do rejoice). So proclaim the glad tidings to the Believers.

What I see, it says do what you are ordered to, pray, zekat ect. Do them even if you die. And if you die at that way you are shehid. If someone wants to stops you, go as far as you can even die or kill. But it does not say kill all the pagans on your way.
As you see it must be in the original Bible. So lets say God loves you and if I kill you on the way to church, you will go to heaven and I go to hell.
(When I say "Lets say God loves you, I mean positif not negative")

(Allah knows best. I only say what I see)

[Bornao]

Brothers, I think I must go now. This can be my last post.
Peace

[Peter]

You don't realize this but what you are saying is that you wish that God wasn't a God of love as revealed in the Gospel as I showed you in this prior post:

If you are tying to say the God you believe is does't love.

I put the link there so you wouldn't have to speculate about what I am "trying to say". It isn't about what I say, but rather how the love of the one true God of the scriptures is revealed:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3098.msg12575#msg12575

Or Allah is full of hate.

I already exposed how Muhammad and his evil alter-ego "Allah" were revealed as being full of hate, over and over again, through your own books.

Sahih Bukhari B52 #177 Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "the Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3098.msg12610#msg12610

Just as Muhammad's/Satan's true followers hate today. Like this Islamic cleric.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rl0rZObP-c
Please tell me. Is that Islamic cleric filled with love or hate?
Is he driven by God or Satan when he quotes and explains the above verse from Islam's "holy" books?

[Peter]

Just the same reason that the Enghish people conquered America. Same reason Italian and so on did.
Was that your question?

The difference is that those expansions into the Americas were not considered a religious duty by those that traveled there. My question is if warfare and the spread of Islam isn't considered legitimate by this method why did the Caliphs do so following Muhammad's death? Why did Muhammad use this method if it isn't a legitimate means of spreading the faith?

Brother, my cousin is married with a Native Indian. Don't tell me about it.

What resisting had asked, before I accidentally erased his post, was something like:
Talking about your cousin's spouse is neither here nor there.

QUESTION: If imperialistic conquest wasn't a legitimate means of spreading Islam, why did Muhammad and his followers conquer and subjugate nearly the whole of Arabia in Muhammad's lifetime, and the Califate go on to conquer and subjugate nearly the whole known world, all the way up into France and Austria, after Muhammad died?

Narrated Ibn 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform a that, then they save their lives an property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah."  (Bukhari Book #2, Hadith #24)

Personally, I would happily choose beheading rather than eternal torment in hell without rest, for testifying to such a satanic abomination - since the false prophet Muhammad was the EXACT OPPOSITE of the sinless Messiah, in word and deed. Just as Muhammad's Quran is the opposite of the Gospel. Many innocent Christians are martyred all around the world for choosing martyrdom rather than recite satan's words and spend an eternity in hell fire with him.

Like the exmuslim Christians in your country of Turkey in the following video, that had their throats slit for refusing to recite satan's Islamic lies, and refusing to renounce Jesus Christ:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFTGNGja6vI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku9ij67bE6o

[Bornao]

The word “JIHAD” does not mean killing pagan people. I have already proven that. It means fighting against the devil, like praying, smiling to people, don’t eat much ect…
But in your dictionaries it says: a holy war which is fought by Muslims against people who are a threat to the Islamic religion or who oppose its teachings

Guess what! Now they add this………… a spiritual fight against the evil in yourself

Is it me who added these to Cambridge Dictionary  http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/jihad?q=jihad


You realy don’t want to understand. Muslims have only one book. And hadis books are not Quran. In those Hadis books it’says lots of things about love.

You can’t enter the heavens till you love each other.

Visit the Sick and Feed the Hungry

O God, grant me life as a poor man, cause me to die as a poor man and resurrect me in the company of the poor.." His wife asked him why he said that, and he replied: "Because (the poor) will enter Paradise (before) the rich. Do not turn away a poor man...even if all you can give is half a date. If you love the poor and bring them near you..God will bring you near Him on the Day of Ressurrection

Some women are blessings for their husbands who express their love and affection,

Anyone who believes in God and the Last Day (of Judgment) should not harm his neighbor. Anyone who believes in God and the Last Day should entertain his guest generously. And anyone who believes in God and the Last Day should say what is good or keep quiet.

You have seen nothing like marriage for increasing the love between two people If you are redin this quote this one


God does not judge you according to your bodies and appearances, but He looks into your hearts and observes your deeds


what is the best type of Jihad [struggle].' He answered: 'Speaking truth before a tyrannical ruler

Read them if you want. Here: http://www.islamset.com/islam/hadith/sayings/part-1.html#7


They are nice, but they are not the words of Allah, they are words of people. Like history, don’t represent religions. Here what Jews says about you. Tell me… Are they right?




http://www.flyingchariotministries.com/nazisandthechurch.htm





May be the reason you don’t understand is you are filled with love like Hz.Abraham. He struggle for Lut’s people. Remember the struggle between angels and Hz.Abraham

Surah Hud 11/74

74.   So when fear had gone away from Ibrahim and good news came to him, he began to plead with Us for Lut's people.



75.   Most surely Ibrahim was forbearing, tender-hearted, oft-returning (to Allah):



76.   O Ibrahim! leave off this, surely the decree of your Lord has come to pass, and surely there must come to them a chastisement that cannot be averted.



But you know what, being “tender-hearted” is very good thing. But it is not enough. Our Creator wants more. “Love me more than anything. Obey what I say.” Clear your mind an try to understand what Quran wants to say. History is all in the hands of people who writes them. Every nation has his own view of writing the history. Look brother, God loves all the people. Even the say I don’t believe in God, our Creator stil lets tham live. 

[Peter]

The word “JIHAD” does not mean killing pagan people. I have already proven that.

You have proven nothing of the kind, as further shown by your failure to answer our questions in these regards.
Exactly to the contrary of to your claim of proof, we have shown you over and over where the Quran and Hadith call Muhammad's followers to conquest and subjugation of others. At least 18% of Muhammad's followers hold that view, and even here in the U.S. 80% of mosques advocate violence against non-Muslims.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2584.0

It means fighting against the devil, like praying, smiling to people, don’t eat much ect…
But in your dictionaries it says: a holy war which is fought by Muslims against people who are a threat to the Islamic religion or who oppose its teachings

You are misunderstanding. We realize that you want to be peaceful, and are no doubt a decent fellow, in a manner that is exactly contrary to Muhammad and those that followed him as revealed through your books.

Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"

But what you desire to be like, is irrelevant to those true fundamental followers of Muhammad, that have had the goal of conquering and subjugating non-Muslims for the last 1400 years, So please quit obfuscating and answer resisting's question now at this link.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3098.msg12646#msg12646

[Peter]

http://www.flyingchariotministries.com/nazisandthechurch.htm

You must not have scrolled down the page of the link you offered very far, or you would have seen all of the pictures of Muslims in Hitler's service - which is completely in line with Muhammad's genocide of Jews - and advanced by Islam's books unto today.



No surprise to see the Roman Catholic clergy standing next to Hitler, as they are just as complicit with the evil of antichrist Islam today, as they were with Hitler and the Nazis back then.

Here is what the Pope and the Vatican Council wrote while coddling Islam:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=600.0

Here's the pope kissing the antichrist Quran
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=78.0

[Peter]

May be the reason you don’t understand is you are filled with love like Hz.Abraham. He struggle for Lut’s people. Remember the struggle between angels and Hz.Abraham

No. The reason I am filled with love is because I am a Christian.

Mark 12:29  And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments [is], Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this [is] the first commandment.  31 And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.  32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:

Mat 22:39 And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Whether those neighbors are Jews, Muslims or atheists.
And for how we are to treat our enemies?

Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

John 13:35 By this shall all [men] know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

(KJV) 1 John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.   8  He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.   9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.    10  Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son [to be] the propitiation for our sins.   11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.   12  No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.   13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.    14  And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son [to be] the Saviour of the world.    15  Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.   16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/first_epistle_john.htm#1_john_4_7

Those that demonstrate that they are so easily duped by Hitler in this 21st century information age, are in the same spiritual condition, as those that were duped into being in Hitler's service in genocide of Jews. Like the Muslims were, and have been, ever since Muhammad's mass murder of those young faithful, peaceful, productive, moral, literate, non-combatant Jewish farm boys in Medina, because they refused to abandon the God of their forefathers of a couple thousand years, to instead prostrate themselves to an Arabian pagan idol in Mecca.

Just like the Christians that were recently butchered in Turkey refused to do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFTGNGja6vI

Muslims engaging in genocide of Jews because they believe that even in the final moment in which they are expecting God's final judgment on the world - including themselves - they are to be engaged in the act of killing Jews.

Just like this cleric confirms:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rl0rZObP-c

From Islam's books:
Sahih Bukhari B52 #177 Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "the Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

Hitler was whoever he thought he was expected to be, to whoever he happened to be addressing.

(Dec. 13th, 1941) “Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless…”

(Oct. 19th, 1941) “The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity.”

(from July 11th – 12th, 1941) “The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity….[an] invention of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.”

(Feb. 27, 1942) “…but to devote myself deliberately to errors, that is something I cannot do. I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie. Our epoch in the next 200 years will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity…my regret will have been that I couldn't behold its demise.”

http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2983.0



Hitler and the Mufti
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sk3fKY9PhY

Now, "I asked you repeatedly to please show us where the Gospel calls Christians to fight and slay non-Christians."
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/gospel_of_john.htm

I am going to have to insist on an answer this time. Do not post anything unrelated until you respond to that request or it will be moved to storage.

[Bornao]

Want me to talk about Bible. I have already said why I can not.
Want me to talk about history... I have already said why is it meaningless.
Want me to talk about Hadis. How many times must I say they are not Quran.
You are not even reading what I write.

The word “JIHAD” does not mean killing pagan people. I have already proven that. It means fighting against the devil, like praying, smiling to people, don’t eat much ect…
But in your dictionaries it says: a holy war which is fought by Muslims against people who are a threat to the Islamic religion or who oppose its teachings

Guess what! Now they add this………… a spiritual fight against the evil in yourself

Is it me who added these to Cambridge Dictionary  http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/jihad?q=jihad


You realy don’t want to understand. Muslims have only one book. And hadis books are not Quran. In those Hadis books it’says lots of things about love.

You can’t enter the heavens till you love each other.

Visit the Sick and Feed the Hungry

O God, grant me life as a poor man, cause me to die as a poor man and resurrect me in the company of the poor.." His wife asked him why he said that, and he replied: "Because (the poor) will enter Paradise (before) the rich. Do not turn away a poor man...even if all you can give is half a date. If you love the poor and bring them near you..God will bring you near Him on the Day of Ressurrection

Some women are blessings for their husbands who express their love and affection,

Anyone who believes in God and the Last Day (of Judgment) should not harm his neighbor. Anyone who believes in God and the Last Day should entertain his guest generously. And anyone who believes in God and the Last Day should say what is good or keep quiet.

You have seen nothing like marriage for increasing the love between two people If you are redin this quote this one


God does not judge you according to your bodies and appearances, but He looks into your hearts and observes your deeds


what is the best type of Jihad [struggle].' He answered: 'Speaking truth before a tyrannical ruler

Read them if you want. Here: http://www.islamset.com/islam/hadith/sayings/part-1.html#7


They are nice, but they are not the words of Allah, they are words of people. Like history, don’t represent religions. Here what Jews says about you. Tell me… Are they right?




http://www.flyingchariotministries.com/nazisandthechurch.htm





May be the reason you don’t understand is you are filled with love like Hz.Abraham. He struggle for Lut’s people. Remember the struggle between angels and Hz.Abraham

Surah Hud 11/74

74.   So when fear had gone away from Ibrahim and good news came to him, he began to plead with Us for Lut's people.



75.   Most surely Ibrahim was forbearing, tender-hearted, oft-returning (to Allah):



76.   O Ibrahim! leave off this, surely the decree of your Lord has come to pass, and surely there must come to them a chastisement that cannot be averted.



But you know what, being “tender-hearted” is very good thing. But it is not enough. Our Creator wants more. “Love me more than anything. Obey what I say.” Clear your mind an try to understand what Quran wants to say. History is all in the hands of people who writes them. Every nation has his own view of writing the history. Look brother, God loves all the people. Even the say I don’t believe in God, our Creator stil lets tham live.

That's the end brother. Death is not that far. We all gonna see who is wrong.
Peace...

[Peter]

Want me to talk about Bible. I have already said why I can not.

Because it is the revelation of the love of God.
Because you reject the truth of the Gospel.
Because you reject the Son of God.
Because Islam is antichrist.
Because Muhammad professed the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel.

Want me to talk about history... I have already said why is it meaningless.

No I want you to answer resisting's question which is: why did Islam conquer nearly the whole known world during the first jihad, and has engaged in over 18,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks during this second jihad, just since 9-11 - in a manner EXACTLY CONSISTENT with Muhammad's slaughter and the conquest of non-Muslims as demanded of his followers IN THE QURAN - if conquest isn't how Islam is supposed to spread?

Want me to talk about Hadis. How many times must I say they are not Quran.

Muammar Gaddafi tried to run and hide from the Hadiths - Islam's "holy" books - too. A delegation from Islam's most prestigious Al-Azhar University in Egypt went and met with him and told him if he didn't repent, he would be subject to the law of renegades and they would be obliged to cut his head off. Needless to say he repented, just as you would, if you tried to make your case that Islam is peaceful, with a true fundamental follower of Muhammad that disagreed with you and held a beheading knife in his hand.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=892.0

You are not even reading what I write.

I have read and responded to what you have written even as you continue to ignore our requests to do the same.

[Peter]

The word “JIHAD” does not mean killing pagan people.

But just a little while back you were arguing that this verse was about fighting pagans, rather than fighting Christians and Jews.

Surah 9.29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

But of course we know better.

Qur'an 33:26 "Allah took down the People of the Scripture Book. He cast terror into their hearts. Some you slew, and some you made prisoners. And He made you heirs of their lands, their houses, and their goods, giving you a land which you had not traversed before. And Allah has power over all things."

That verse is about the mass murder of Jewish men and boys, enslavement and rape of their little sisters, wives and mothers, and theft of the fruit of their labor of generations.

I have already proven that. It means fighting against the devil, like praying, smiling to people, don’t eat much ect…
But in your dictionaries it says: a holy war which is fought by Muslims against people who are a threat to the Islamic religion or who oppose its teachings

Guess what! Now they add this………… a spiritual fight against the evil in yourself

Is it me who added these to Cambridge Dictionary  http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/jihad?q=jihad

We realize that's what you so wish were true, even as Islamic fundamentalist terrorists, fully understand the Quran as a call to conquest and subjugation of non-Muslims. Understood from the book of one of the most consummate terrorists (or fear inducers as you prefer) in the history of mankind.

You realy don’t want to understand. Muslims have only one book. And hadis books are not Quran. In those Hadis books it’says lots of things about love.

Like Muhammad demanding his followers LOVE MUHAMMAD.

(2) Narrated Abu Huraira: "Allah's Apostle said, "By Him in Whose Hands my life is, none of you will have faith till he loves me more than his father and his children."  (Book #2, Hadith #13)

(3) Narrated Anas: The Prophet said "None of you will have faith till he loves me more than his father, his children and all mankind."  (Book #2, Hadith #14)

You can’t enter the heavens till you love each other.

Just as the Gospel proclaims as one of the two most important commandments for Christians.

Mark 12:29  And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments [is], Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this [is] the first commandment.  31 And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.  32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:

Visit the Sick and Feed the Hungry

O God, grant me life as a poor man, cause me to die as a poor man and resurrect me in the company of the poor.." His wife asked him why he said that, and he replied: "Because (the poor) will enter Paradise (before) the rich. Do not turn away a poor man...even if all you can give is half a date. If you love the poor and bring them near you..God will bring you near Him on the Day of Ressurrection

Even as you try to distance yourself from the Hadith and the evil it reveals, and the violence it perpetrates, you turn around and embrace cherry-picked concepts from it - in which it contradicts itself - that were plagiarized and watered-down from Christianity.

Mat 19:23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Mat 19:24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Parable of the widow's mite
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesson_of_the_widow%27s_mite

[Peter]

What you are really admitting to is that you prefer to leave the heavy lifting to Muhammad's true followers. Let's look at what they accomplished over just the last 30 days.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

This is you or your heirs future:
2012.02.21    Thailand    Narathiwat    1    0    A peaceful Muslim is stabbed to death for declining to join the Jihad.

2012.03.07    Pakistan    Peshawar    1    3    A Taliban bomb planted in a sewer takes out a 9-year-old child.
2012.03.07    Iraq    Tal Afar    14    23    Fourteen people near a restaurant are obliterated in a double bomb attack by Holy Warriors.
2012.03.07    Afghanistan    Spin Boldak    4    10    A woman and two children are among four civilians ripped apart by a suicide bomber on a motorcycle.
2012.03.07    Pakistan    Karachi    1    0    An Ahmadi is gunned down in a targeted attack at a market.
2012.03.06    Afghanistan    Uruzgan    9    0    Nine local police officers are murdered in their beds by Taliban gunmen.
2012.03.06    Dagestan    Karabudakhkent    5    2    Five traffic cops are blown to bits by a female suicide bomber.
2012.03.06    Nigeria    Bilala    2    0    At least two civilians are killed as Boko Haram devotees blow up a church and a police station.
2012.03.06    Thailand    Yala    1    1    One member of a security team for teachers dies from a shrapnel injury to the head from a Muslim 'insurgent' bomb.
2012.03.05    Iraq    Haditha    27    3    Twenty-seven Iraqi police are massacred by al-Qaeda in a series of attacks.
2012.03.05    Afghanistan    Parwan    2    4    Two children bleed to death following a suicide attack that is 'in revenge' for a Quran burning.
2012.03.05    Pakistan    Akkakhel    1    0    Hardliners behead a local tribesman.
2012.03.05    Thailand    Narathiwat    1    7    Muslim terrorists detonate a bomb at a market, killing a 37-year-old boat driver.
2012.03.04    Yemen    Zinjibar    15    12    A al-Qaeda suicide bomber sends fifteen other souls to Allah.
2012.03.04    Yemen    Zinjibar    185    91    A surprise attack by al-Qaeda on a local security base leaves nearly two-hundred occupants dead and mutilated
2012.03.04    Nigeria    Maiduguri    2    0    Islamists shoot a middle-aged woman and her 10-year-old daughter to death in their home.
2012.03.04    Nigeria    Gamborou    2    0    A tailor and trader are executed in cold blood by Boko Haram gunmen.
2012.03.03    Afghanistan    Nangarhar    4    0    Islamic hardliners shred four family members with a roadside bomb.
2012.03.03    Philippines    Jolo    2    13    Abu Sayyaf militants detonate a bomb in front of a grocery store, killing two civilians.
2012.03.03    Pakistan    Peshawar    2    2    A 5-year-old girl is among two innocents slain by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2012.03.02    Pakistan    Tirah Bazaar    25    18    Two dozen people are blown to bits by a Fedayeen suicide bomber outside a mosque.
2012.03.02    Thailand    Pattani    2    0    A husband and wife are shot to death in their home by Muslim 'insurgents'.
2012.02.29    Afghanistan    Lashkargah    0    7    Children are among the casualties of a Shahid suicide bombing.
2012.02.29    Somalia    Mogadishu    1    0    A journalist trying to open a radio station shut down by Islamists is murdered outside his home.
2012.02.29    Pakistan    Hyderabad    1    1    An 80-year-old member of the Ahmadi minority is murdered over his religious beliefs.
2012.02.29    Bangladesh    Madarganj    0    3    Three missionaries are injured when a mob, stirred up by an Islamic seminary, throw stones at them.
2012.02.29    Iraq    Baghdad    3    9    Jihadis set off a car bomb next to a shopping area, taking out three Iraqis.
2012.02.29    Pakistan    Bara    3    5    Two women and a child are disassembled by a Taliban roadside blast.
2012.02.29    Pakistan    Karachi    1    2    A 22-year-old Shiite is gunned down by Wahhabis.
2012.02.29    Nigeria    Maiduguri    4    1    Witnesses report seeing four dead following a Boko Haram bombing attack on a market.
2012.02.28    Iraq    Falluja    1    1    al-Qaeda gunmen murder an Iraqi.
2012.02.28    Kenya    Mandera    1    8    An unarmed police man is killed by al-Shabaab assassins at a market.
2012.02.28    Pakistan    Kohistan    18    0    Jundallah fundamentalists pull eighteen Shiite civilians off a bus and execute them in cold blood.
2012.02.28    Nigeria    Adamawa    1    0    Boko Haram radicals gun down a cop.
2012.02.28    China    Kashgar    10    5    A second assault by knife-weilding Muslim terrorists in a shopping district leaves at least ten more innocents dead.
2012.02.28    China    Yecheng    3    0    Three ethnic Chinese are hacked to pieces by a Muslim mob.
2012.02.28    Pakistan    Peshawar    2    0    Two foreign civilians are gunned down at a market by Taliban militants in a targeted killing.
2012.02.28    Iraq    Baghdad    4    0    Sectarian Jihadis shoot four young family members to death.
2012.02.27    Nigeria    Bauchi    3    0    Islamists firebomb a police station, killing three occupants.
2012.02.27    Nigeria    Adamawa    3    1    Radical Muslims shoot three police officers to death at a checkpoint.
2012.02.27    Afghanistan    Jalalabad    9    10    A Shahid suicide bomber murders nine people at an airport.
2012.02.27    Pakistan    Nowshera    5    26    Terrorists dismantle five people at a political rally.
2012.02.27    Somalia    Mogadishu    3    7    Mujahid bombers take out three people at a soccer match.
2012.02.27    Nigeria    Maiduguri    1    0    A local official is assassinated by Boko Haram gunmen.
2012.02.27    Dagestan    Karabudakhkent    5    0    Islamic extremists execute five hunters.
2012.02.27    Nigeria    Kagoro    2    0    Islamists chant religious slogans as they butcher two people.
2012.02.27    Nigeria    Bundumi Rimi    4    4    Four villagers are murdered and mutilated by Islamic fundamentalists.
2012.02.26    Nigeria    Jos    4    38    A suicide bomber detonates during a church service, killing four worshippers including a woman and a father and 18-month-old child.
2012.02.26    Pakistan    Kot Meerath    0    1    A Christian woman is brutally tortured and paraded for harboring alleged 'anti-Islam' views.
2012.02.26    Pakistan    South Waziristan    2    1    Suspected Lashkar-e-Islam bombers kill two local cops.
2012.02.26    Pakistan    Akakhel    4    3    Three girls, ages 2 to 10, and a woman are blown apart by a mortar round fired into their home by suspected Islamic militants.
2012.02.26    Afghanistan    Kunduz    1    6    A Muslm, angered over an inadvertent Quran burning, throws a grenade at a group of Americans, killing one.
2012.02.26    Pakistan    Hussainabad    1    0    A Shiite bakery worker is the victim of a targeted sectarian killing.
2012.02.26    Iraq    Buhriz    2    4    A Mujahideen bombing at a market leaves two civilians dead.
2012.02.26    Pakistan    Tank    1    2    The Taliban shoot a drummer to death in this home.
2012.02.26    Egypt    Cairo    2    0    Two young women, suspected of having relations by choice, are mudered by their families in separate honor attacks.
2012.02.25    Afghanistan    Muqur    6    16    Six Afghan sappers are killed by a Taliban bomb.
2012.02.25    Nigeria    Gombe    12    5    Ten civilians are among twelve found dead after Islamists attack a police station with petrol bombs.
2012.02.25    Afghanistan    Kabul    2    0    Two American staffers are shot to death by fundamentalists 'in revenge' for an accidental Quran burning.
2012.02.25    Yemen    Sana'a    26    10    al-Qaeda kills nearly thirty Yemenis with a suicide blast by a Saudi bomber.
2012.02.24    Pakistan    Bara    3    3    Taliban militants open up on a car at point-blank range, killing three occupants.
2012.02.24    Afghanistan    Laghman    0    20    Twenty people are injured when a mob hurls stones in protest of an alleged Quran desecration.
2012.02.24    Nigeria    Kano    5    0    Boko Haram radicals spray the inside of a mosque with bullets, killing a rival and four others.
2012.02.24    Pakistan    Peshawar    4    6    Fedayeen suicide bombers take out four people at a police station.
2012.02.23    Iraq    Balad    7    33    An al-Qaeda car bomb leaves seven dead and thirty-three more in agony.
2012.02.23    Pakistan    Kohat    15    35    A Religion of Peace car bomb rips through a bus station, leaving at least a dozen dead.
2012.02.23    Afghanistan    Kabul    2    4    Two American troops are killed 'in revenge' over reports of an accidental Quran burning at another base.
2012.02.23    Nigeria    Niger State    2    0    Two cops are gunned down by Boko Haram.
2012.02.23    Nigeria    Kano    4    0    Islamists fire at a passing police patrol, killing two officers.
2012.02.23    Iraq    Baghdad    20    198    Authorities report dozens of additional casualties from a wave of al-Qaeda bombings and shootings against Iraqi Shiites.
2012.02.23    Pakistan    Enjani Kali    2    3    Taliban militants hit three houses with rockets, killing two residents.
2012.02.23    Iraq    Baiji    3    5    Sunni militants place a bomb near a court that leaves three dead.
2012.02.23    Iraq    Diyala    11    16    A series of suicide attacks and shootings leave at least eleven dead.
2012.02.23    Iraq    Balad Ruz    3    7    Three family members are disassembled by an 'insurgent' bomb attack on their home.
2012.02.23    Iraq    Mandali    2    1    Two children are taken out by an al-Qaeda bomb at a soccer field.
2012.02.23    Iraq    Sulaiman Beg    2    1    Two local cops are gunned down by terrorists.
2012.02.23    Iraq    Musayyib    3    75    Children are heavily represented among the casualties of an al-Qaeda car bombing near an elementary school.
2012.02.23    Iraq    Baghdad    6    0    Six policemen are machine-gunned at a checkpoint by Islamic 'insurgents.'
2012.02.23    Iraq    Karrada    10    27    Body parts are strewn across roads as terrorists kill at least ten people with a bomb in a residential Shiite neighborhood.
2012.02.23    Iraq    Jalawla    3    21    Sunni bombers attack Kurds, taking down two women and one man.
2012.02.23    Iraq    Kadhimiya    6    18    Six patrons are taken apart by an al-Qaeda car bomb at a restaurant.
2012.02.23    Iraq    Kirkuk    7    24    Jihad car bombers take out seven Iraqis in two attacks -one in a residential neighborhood, the other at a bank.
2012.02.23    Philippines    Lapuyan    6    9    Young children are among the casualties when Muslim militants strafe a house with gunfire, killing six.
2012.02.22    Nigeria    Maiduguri    1    0    Islamists slit the throat of a pastor's 75-year-old mother and leave a note in Arabic for her son.
2012.02.22    Pakistan    Sipah    3    0    Lashkar-e-Islam militants kill three people with a landmine.
2012.02.22    Pakistan    Akkakhel    3    0    Three civilians are killed in separate terror attacks.
2012.02.22    Afghanistan    Urgun    1    0    A local journalist is lured to a meeting by the Taliban and then beheaded.
2012.02.21    Nigeria    Damaturu    3    0    Boko Haram is thought responsible for an attack that leaves three innocents dead.
2012.02.21    Thailand    Narathiwat    1    0    A peaceful Muslim is stabbed to death for declining to join the Jihad.
2012.02.20    Afghanistan    Kandahar    1    4    A Fedayeen suicide bomber takes out one other person.
2012.02.20    Yemen    Zinjibar    2    0    al-Qaeda gunmen take out two local cops.
2012.02.20    Nigeria    Maiduguri    30    3    Women and children are among the dead when caliphate advocates storm a market and shoot traders and patrons alike.
2012.02.20    Thailand    Pattani    1    0    A villager is gunned down in a Religion of Peace drive by.
2012.02.20    Afghanistan    Robat    2    2    Terrorists in uniform open fire on foreigners at a meeting to discuss opening a school and health center.
2012.02.19    Iraq    Baghdad    19    28    Twenty young Iraqi police recruits are sent to Allah by Shahid suicide bombers.
2012.02.19    Iraq    Baqubah    4    0    al-Qaeda gunmen murder three women and one man inside their home.
2012.02.19    Nigeria    Sulieja    0    5    Sharia advocates set off a car bomb next to a church.
2012.02.19    Algeria    Bordj Menail    4    10    Islamic bombers take out four bus passengers.
2012.02.19    Philippines    Kidapawan    3    4    Three civilian bystanders are killed during an attack by Moro Islamists on a jail.
2012.02.19    Israel    Jerusalem    0    1    One person is injured when Muslims hurl rocks at Christian tourists from their mosque on the Temple Mount.
2012.02.19    Pakistan    Beaver Ridge Canaan    9    5    Nine people are left dead following a Lashkar-e-Islam bomb blast.
2012.02.19    Afghanistan    Washir    4    0    Four civilians are beheaded by Sunni fundamentalists.
2012.02.18    Mali    Hombori    1    0    A 77-year-old man is kidnapped and murdered by suspected al-Qaeda.
2012.02.18    Kenya    Nairobi    30    0    At least thirty Kenyan civilians are murdered by al-Shabaab Islamists in various attacks.
2012.02.17    Pakistan    Parachinar    43    41    A Sunni suicide bomber takes out over three dozen Shia outside their own mosque following prayers.
2012.02.17    Pakistan    Tirah    3    0    Three local security personnel are killed by Mujahideen bombers.
2012.02.17    Lebanon    Tripoli    1    0    A 17-year-old girl is killed by a stray bullet when rival Muslim groups clash following urging by their clerics.
2012.02.17    Iraq    Baghdad    2    0    Drive-by terrorists take out two Iraqis.
2012.02.17    Nigeria    Geidam    1    0    Boko Haram gunmen 'execute' a local official in front of his home.
2012.02.17    Nigeria    Konduga    1    0    A cleric is shot to death by Religion of Peace rivals in front of his family at his house.
2012.02.17    Saudi Arabia    Mount Arafat    0    12    A dozen people are injured when religious groups fight each other at a Muslim holy site.
2012.02.17    Kenya    Fafi    1    1    A police officer is gunned down by al-Shabaab Islamists.
2012.02.17    Pakistan    Karachi    2    0    Two religious activists are gunned down by sectarian Jihadis.
2012.02.16    Pakistan    Upper Dir    3    9    A suicide bomber detonates at a market, leaving three other persons dead.
2012.02.16    Yemen    Hizam    3    0    Three members of a family, including a child, are disassembled when al-Qaeda militants fire a rocket into their home.
2012.02.16    Yemen    Hizam    11    0    Eleven tribesmen are blown to bits by an al-Qaeda rocket attack on their convoy.
2012.02.16    Nigeria    Minna    2    1    Islamists stage a bloody assault on a police station that leaves two officers dead.
2012.02.16    Pakistan    Peshawar    0    5    A Fedayeen detonates himself along a city street.
2012.02.16    Dagestan    Gurbuki    13    17    Islamic militias kill thirteen police officers.
2012.02.16    Iraq    Baqubah    1    0    Muslim bombers take out the owner of a mobile phone store.
2012.02.15    Iraq    Ramadi    1    3    Islamic militants set off a bomb outside a home, killing one resident.
2012.02.15    Yemen    al-Baydah    5    0    Ansar al-Sharia gunmen open fire on a car at point blank range and send all five occupants to Allah, including a teen boy.
2012.02.15    Pakistan    Jamrud    1    5    Terrorists set off a bomb at a market, killing at least one patron.
2012.02.15    Saudi Arabia    Dammam    1    3    Sunni police open fire on a Shia religious festival, exterminating a participant.
2012.02.15    Nigeria    Suleija    1    0    A policeman is murdered by Boko Haram.
2012.02.15    Pal. Auth.    Bait Oula    1    0    A 16-year-old girl is strangled in her sleep by her mother over a (false) rumor of sexual impropriety (occurred weeks earlier).
2012.02.15    Nigeria    Koton-Karifi    1    0    A warden is killed when Boko Haram militants storm a jail.
2012.02.15    Iraq    al-Bubali Island    1    2    One family member is killed during an 'insurgent' home invasion.
2012.02.15    Iraq    Jurf al-Sakhar    3    1    A 1-year-old baby is among three shot dead when Islamic terrorists storm a policeman's home.
2012.02.14    Thailand    Narathiwat    1    0    A 48-year-old man is slain by Muslim 'separatists' while sitting in his pickup truck.
2012.02.14    Thailand    Bangkok    0    4    A woman is among the casualties of a grenade attack by an Iranian.
2012.02.14    Iraq    Mashtal    1    6    A roadside attack leaves one civilian dead.
2012.02.14    Iraq    Mosul    2    12    An al-Qaeda bomb blast ends the lives of two Iraqis.
2012.02.14    Pakistan    Karachi    2    0    Two Sunnis are gunned down in a suspected sectarian drive-by.
2012.02.14    Nigeria    Kaduna    1    2    A policeman is killed trying to defuse a Boko Haram bomb outside a mosque.
2012.02.13    Iraq    Mosul    1    1    'Insurgents' kill a woman and injure her child.
2012.02.13    India    New Delhi    0    4    A woman is among four injured when terrorists detonate a bomb outside the Israeli embassy.
2012.02.13    Russia    Dagestan    3    6    Three police officers are gunned down by Islamic 'separatists'.
2012.02.13    Nigeria    Maiduguri    3    0    Three civilians are beheaded by Boko Haram Salafists..
2012.02.13    Russia    Pyatigorsk    1    0    A cleric is taken apart by a Religion of Peace car bombing.
2012.02.13    Iraq    Fallujah    3    0    Three Iraqis are gunned down in cold blood by Muslim assassins.
2012.02.13    Pakistan    Haripur    1    0    Wahhabi gunmen murder a Shiite activist.
2012.02.12    Yemen    Hajjah    30    12    Thirty people are killed when Shiites attack Sunnis.
2012.02.12    Yemen    Jaar    3    0    Three civilians are beheaded by Ansar al-Sharia.
2012.02.11    Afghanistan    Khogyani    2    6    An 8-year-old girl is among two killed when Muslim gunmen spray the inside of a house.
2012.02.11    Afghanistan    Uruzgan    5    1    Sunni hardliners send five local cops to Allah with a roadside bomb.
2012.02.11    Iraq    Baghdad    1    0    'Insurgents' assassinate a government official in his car.
2012.02.11    Iraq    Fallujah    6    0    A two-year-old is among six Iraqis murdered by suspected al-Qaeda bombers.
2012.02.11    Yemen    al-Bayda    1    0    al-Qaeda gunmen shoot an intelligence officer to death.
2012.02.11    Pakistan    Khwezai    1    0    Tehreek-e-Taliban murder an abductee.
2012.02.11    Philippines    Basilan    0    1    Abu Sayyaf gunmen fire on a group of road construction workers.
2012.02.11    Nigeria    Potiskum    2    0    Two Christian brothers are murdered in cold blood by Islamists in white robes.
2012.02.10    Syria    Allepo    28    235    Children are among the casualties of twin suicide blasts outside of two government buildings.
2012.02.10    Nigeria    Maiduguri    2    0    At least two people are killed by a Boko Haram bomb.
2012.02.10    Nigeria    Potiskum    1    0    A cleric is assassinated by Religion of Peace rivals.
2012.02.09    Thailand    Yala    1    13    A retired teacher bleeds to death following a bombing by Muslim militants.
2012.02.09    Nigeria    Kano    1    0    Boko Haram cadres murder a critic outside a mosque.
2012.02.09    Yemen    Lahj    1    0    A security official is murdered by al-Qaeda gunmen.
2012.02.09    India    Hawoora    1    0    Muslim militants assassinate a local official.
2012.02.08    Pakistan    Mohalla Naseerabad    3    0    A man kills his two sisters and another person for refusing his order to "mend their ways."
2012.02.08    Pakistan    Alenger    2    0    Mujahideen murder two security officials with a landmine.
2012.02.08    Somalia    Mogadishu    15    24    Fifteen people at a hotel cafe are torn to shreds by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2012.02.07    Pakistan    Abadpur    1    0    A young woman is murdered by her conservative father for marrying by choice.
2012.02.07    Thailand    Narathiwat    1    0    Muslim militants shoot a man to death at a tea shop.
2012.02.07    Yemen    Mastaba    30    24    At least thirty people are killed when Shia and Sunni fundamentalists begin shooting at each other.
2012.02.07    Thailand    Narathiwat    1    1    Violent Islamic separatists gun down a Buddhist man and his wife.

[Peter]

Some women are blessings for their husbands who express their love and affection,

While other women need to be beaten: (I enlarged the font in the quoted. )
Sura (4:34) - Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.



And those that are non-muslim slaves and concubines?
Sura 24:33:...But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),

So WHEN they don't desire chastity, like when they want to share in the profits, pimp em out and make some gain!

And any Muslim man can enjoy their services through Mutah/Misyar, or temporary marriage.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2590.0

Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/women_in_islam.htm

[Peter]

Anyone who believes in God and the Last Day (of Judgment) should not harm his neighbor. Anyone who believes in God and the Last Day should entertain his guest generously. And anyone who believes in God and the Last Day should say what is good or keep quiet.

Which is Muhammad's followers way of saying to parrot Muhammad or shut up, and above all, don't ask questions. Muhammad hated questions because they always revealed the truth that he was a liar, and plagiarizer of Hebrew and Arabic fables.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=893.0

Surah 5:101 O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. But if ye ask about things when the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, Allah will forgive those: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing.

http://www.petewaldo.com/#islam_201
So Muslims are instructed to avoid asking questions such as that posed at the link regarding the Jews killing their Messiah. The reason is made clear in the very next verse:

102 Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.

Illustrating Islam's 1400 year fear of truth. By loosing faith in Muhammad, Muslims come to know the love of the one true God, through a relationship with Jesus Christ. The same reason that Mohammed had poets killed and prevented Muslims from making friends of non-Muslims. The same reason bibles and Christian materials are banned or restricted in Islamic countries. Same reason those who bring the Gospel to Muhammad's followers in Islamic countries are killed.

[Peter]

You have seen nothing like marriage for increasing the love between two people If you are redin this quote this one

God does not judge you according to your bodies and appearances, but He looks into your hearts and observes your deeds

We agree with this wholeheartedly. The transgressions of the Roman Catholic church amply demonstrate what happens when men believe they are saved by a doctrine.
Jesus explained the new heart He gives His people this way:

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

You also said back in this post I quote below that we are to love God.

But you know what, being “tender-hearted” is very good thing. But it is not enough. Our Creator wants more. “Love me more than anything. Obey what I say.” Clear your mind an try to understand what Quran wants to say. History is all in the hands of people who writes them.

But tragically THE QURAN proclaims the exact opposite of THE GOSPEL. This is about the truth of the Gospel and the lies of the false prophet Muhammad, much more than being about history.

1John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

Every nation has his own view of writing the history. Look brother, God loves all the people.

And here's how much:
Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Yet Muhammad's evil alter-ego "Allah" preordains some people before they are ever even conceived, for his personal torturing pleasure, in the hell of Muhammad's imagination.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2165.0

Even the say I don’t believe in God, our Creator stil lets tham live.

Since where there is no law there is no transgression, I believe that some folks may well be saved, because of their ignorance. You are no longer in that group.
Indeed for a Christian, as I showed you a couple posts ago, it is our first great commandment to love the ONE true God of the bible - YHWH - with all our heart, soul and mind. However the only way we can love God is in pursuit of truth, not running and hiding from truth.

We have shown you repeatedly that the false prophet Muhammad professed THE EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel. That's why Islam isn't just some random religion that is ignorant to the Gospel, but follow an antichrist false prophet named Muhammad who compels them to DISbelieve the Gospel, to DENY the crucifixion of the Messiah, and REJECT the blood of the Lamb of God that would save them, as articles of their faith in Muhammad. This is how we can rest assured Muhammadanism is of Satan. That conclusion is confirmed through vast scriptural, historical, archaeological and geographical evidence that supports the scriptures and the Gospel.

You have been presented the hundreds of verses from the Gospel that declare the Father and His Son. And the consequences for denying them.

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

You have been presented the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/the_lamb_slain.htm

Islam is to the Gospel as the negative is to a photograph. The perfect opposite. That you prostrate to the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in an Arabian pagan kaaba, and engage in recycled jinn-devil worship, is more evidence.
http://www.petewaldo.com/hajj_umrah.htm

1Cr 10:14 Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.

I showed you that the 7th to 10th century CREATED FICTION of Islamic so-called "tradition", is contrary to scripture - and the archaeological and historical record that supports scripture - as well as Islam's "tradition" prenting a geographical impossibility, since the evidence shows that Abraham was never within a thousand kilometers of where Mecca was built in the 4th century, and lived well over thousand years before Mecca was ever settled.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1213.0
http://www.petewaldo.com/hagar_ishmael.htm

I already showed you the origins of the pagan rituals that Muhammad thinly veneered.
http://www.petewaldo.com/origins_of_islam.htm

So if you believe you are saved by the condition of your heart, you have to stop running away from the truth and face it squarely.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

You are no longer just another Gospel ignorant follower of Muhammad, but you have been shown, and you have comprehended, what your responsibility is to the ONE true God of the bible. Do you really think you will be able to get away with pleading ignorance with what you know now, when you stand in judgment before the very Son of God you blaspheme and deny?

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

Why don't you ask Jesus sincerely and right out loud, to come into your heart, and show you the way - today!

Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

These are some of your former brethren that were finally able to be honest enough with themselves to sincerely ask.
From Turkey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLGt2skCVhk
http://www.muslimjourneytohope.com/watch.asp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFTGNGja6vI
More of your former brothers and sisters
http://www.youtube.com/user/Muslims4Jesus/videos

Contrary to Muhammad you already believe in 2 parts of the "trinity", so you are already 2/3 of the way there my friend, and could-be brother!
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3098.msg12435#msg12435

Did you really read the Gospel?
الله هو الحب - الانجيل http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=71.0
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/gospel_of_john.htm

That's the end brother. Death is not that far. We all gonna see who is wrong.
Peace...

We will pray that that you have enough time to repent, Bornao.

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lEro81ygXQ

[Bornao]

Just to the ones, who is just curious.

If you ask me about the Quran, I answer it if I know.


If you comment and commet and ask a question in the middle of your post. I can’t answer. I AM NOT SAYING I WON’T ANSWER. I just can’t. These are your thougts and beliefs and commenting them is none of my business.

I don’t even ask you: In John 16, it says,

12I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
   13Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

It hase been 2000 years. Who are you waiting for? Was Hz.Isa was liar? NO. A big NO!

What about Judges 16

  27Now the house was full of men and women; and all the lords of the Philistines were there; and there were upon the roof about three thousand men and women, that beheld while Samson made sport.
   28And Samson called unto the LORD, and said, O Lord God, remember me, I pray thee, and strengthen me, I pray thee, only this once, O God, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes.
   29And Samson took hold of the two middle pillars upon which the house stood, and on which it was borne up, of the one with his right hand, and of the other with his left.
   30And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life.


Can I ask killing 3000 men/women is okay?
What about suicide killing? Is it okay?
Many Christians does not even know Hz.Jesus’s real name. Is this okay?
Look at you crime reports and compare them to ours...

43 “No good tree bears bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit. 44 Each tree is recognized by its own fruit. People do not pick figs from thornbushes, or grapes from briers. 45 A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of.

Can I ask, what kind of fruit are you?


I have many of these.
But these are the questions which I SHOULDN’T ask.

Nobody can win an argument. Ask anybody… How many times did you argue with someone and how many times you were the wrong one? The answer will be none of them. Then where are those wrong ones?


What I say, arguing does not takes us anywhere. Arguing is only a show of hate. If you want to learn something you must get rid of your paradigms.

Luke6/
   37Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

If you want to ask me a question, ask it in a one sentence.

[Peter]

Just to the ones, who is just curious.

If you ask me about the Quran, I answer it if I know.


If you comment and commet and ask a question in the middle of your post. I can’t answer. I AM NOT SAYING I WON’T ANSWER. I just can’t. These are your thougts and beliefs and commenting them is none of my business.

I don’t even ask you: In John 16, it says,

12I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
   13Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

It hase been 2000 years. Who are you waiting for?

Nobody. You shouldn't venture into exegesis of the Gospel until you have read it, or you will get caught parroting more of Ahmed Deedat's lies and deception.

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another COMFORTER, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 [Even] THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; whom THE WORLD cannot receive, because it SEETH HIM NOT, neither knoweth him: but YE KNOW HIM; for he DWELLETH WITH YOU, and SHALL BE IN YOU.

The world "seeth him not" because Mohammed wasn't born yet?
The apostles "knew" Mohammed?
He "dwelleth with" them 500 years before he was born?
Mohamed was to be IN THEM?      

John 14:26 But THE COMFORTER, [which is] THE HOLY GHOST, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

Not comfortless for 1 minute, let alone 500 years. You blaspheme the Holy Ghost by calling Him - the Comforter - Mohammed.

We have a section dedicated to these Islamic lies that you could have visited before making the mistake of parroting Deedat's stuff.

http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=33.0
Specifically on this subject
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=224.0

1 John 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error. Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.   8  He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.   9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.    10  Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son [to be] the propitiation for our sins.   11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.   12  No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.   13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.    14  And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son [to be] the Saviour of the world.    15  Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.   16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/first_epistle_john.htm#1_john_4_7

[Peter]

Was Hz.Isa was liar? NO. A big NO!

What about Judges 16

  27Now the house was full of men and women; and all the lords of the Philistines were there; and there were upon the roof about three thousand men and women, that beheld while Samson made sport.
   28And Samson called unto the LORD, and said, O Lord God, remember me, I pray thee, and strengthen me, I pray thee, only this once, O God, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes.
   29And Samson took hold of the two middle pillars upon which the house stood, and on which it was borne up, of the one with his right hand, and of the other with his left.
   30And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life.

Can I ask killing 3000 men/women is okay?

Because Muhammad's followers are from Ishmael's children of the flesh, you don't understand that all innocent people whether men, women or children, that have ever been killed, are with the Lord today. More on this subject at the following link.

http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2942.0

What about suicide killing? Is it okay?

Because Muhammad's followers believe that martyrdom is achieved when a Muslim is accidentally killed - while engaged in the act of slaughtering innocent people that are fighting back against Islamic imperialistic aggressors while defending their communities, homes and families from the onslaught of murderous antichrists - you don't understand the difference between suicide and self-sacrifice. Like when a soldier lays himself on a grenade to save his fellow soldiers. We have a whole thread on this Samson suicide subject that another Muslim parroted before you.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1899.msg8509#msg8509

A Christian martyr says "I will die for what I believe in" while a Muslim so-called "martyr" says "You will die for what I believe in."

[Peter]

Many Christians does not even know Hz.Jesus’s real name. Is this okay?

Why don't we take a moment to consider the Messiah's name Yeshua? Do you know what His name means? Yeshua means "YHWH saves" delivers or rescues.

"Yeshua in Hebrew is verbal derivative from "to rescue", "to deliver"."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshua_%28name%29#Etymology

Yet you reject the rescuing blood of the Messiah that would deliver you from your sin, solely because of your faith in Muhammad. More on the subject here:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1889.0

And on the Lamb of God here:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2641.0
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3080.0

Is this okay?

You ask if it's OK even as you refer to YHWH/Yahweh by the NAME by the Arabian pagan's deity's name "Allah".
Arabic language bibles substitute the name of the one true God Yahweh with the quraish pagan's deity's name "Allah", is this OK?
I can't say whether it is or not, but I am confident that if those bibles had contained the name of the one true God rather than the name of the Quraish pagan's god, it would have gone a long way toward helping Muhammad's followers understand that they are exactly that - Muhammad's followers.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2656.0
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2029.0

There is at least one Arabic language bible version that does not blaspheme Yahweh's name.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2613.0

[Peter]

Look at you crime reports and compare them to ours...

Now you are making an argument about the flesh. Is it a surprise when people get their hands cut off for theft? You are also being a hypocrite because earlier you had complained about arguing about what people do, even though I was showing you what Muhammad called his people to do, and the fruit of YOUR BOOKS.

43 “No good tree bears bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit. 44 Each tree is recognized by its own fruit. People do not pick figs from thornbushes, or grapes from briers. 45 A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart.

Thank you for pointing that out.
So how do you explain 1400 years of slaughter of non-muslims by Muhammad's followers?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2393.0
Why is it Muhammad's followers have perpetrated over 18,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks just since 9-11?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=731.0
Why is it that anti-Zionists include Nazis, skinheads, Muslims, the Ku Klux Klan and David Duke, the Soviets and anti-semites of all stripes?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3072.0

For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of.

Can I ask, what kind of fruit are you?

Here are some examples:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3006.0

I have many of these.
But these are the questions which I SHOULDN’T ask.

Not unless you want to be saved from Muhammad's 7th century cult and come to know the love of the one true God through a relationship with Jesus Christ.

Nobody can win an argument.

But as this thread shows over and over, Muhammad couldn't even help you get to first base. Here's why.

Hbr 4:12 For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Ask anybody… How many times did you argue with someone and how many times you were the wrong one? The answer will be none of them. Then where are those wrong ones?

I can't say, but the scriptures may shed some light on the subject regarding those that have been shown THE TRUTH and rejected it.

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

What I say, arguing does not takes us anywhere. Arguing is only a show of hate. If you want to learn something you must get rid of your paradigms.

What you mean is I must reject the 1600 year record of Yahweh to mankind, as revealed through ALL of His prophets and witnesses, that His people have followed through two covenants for 3500 years, to follow Muhammad alone through his STAND-ALONE 7th century antichrist cult.

Luke6/
   37Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

As you review the scriptures presented in this thread you will quickly see that it isn't me that condemns the false prophet Muhammad and his cult.

If you want to ask me a question, ask it in a one sentence.

[Bornao]

You know I can asnwer all these. 

What you can't understand...

But these are the questions which I SHOULDN’T ask.

Nobody can win an argument. Ask anybody… How many times did you argue with someone and how many times you were the wrong one? The answer will be none of them. Then where are those wrong ones?

You don't even understand, why I don't show you the bad Christin people here.
Even showing us "Pope kissing Quran" was not nice. But you still don't get it.

Anyway. If someone have a question about Quran, here is my e-mail.

narshada@hotmail.com

Only the mails Subjected Quran will be answered.
Peace

[Peter]

You know I can asnwer all these. 

You were an epic failure at answering ANY of them - throughout this thread. You repeatedly got sliced and diced by the Sword of the Spirit - the Word of God.

Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

As you learned...

Hbr 4:12 For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

What you can't understand...

But these are the questions which I SHOULDN’T ask.

Nobody can win an argument. Ask anybody… How many times did you argue with someone and how many times you were the wrong one? The answer will be none of them. Then where are those wrong ones?

You don't even understand, why I don't show you the bad Christin people here.

Because there aren't any. I showed you what Christians are do.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3006.0

Only someone that is pretending to be a Christian, or someone that has deluded themselves into believing they were a Christian, could be "bad". Here's why

1Cr 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Yet the false prophet Muhammad failed epically on virtually all those points, as resisting pointed out in this thread:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=879.msg3540#msg3540

Even showing us "Pope kissing Quran" was not nice. But you still don't get it.

Anyway. If someone have a question about Quran, here is my e-mail.

narshada@hotmail.com

Only the mails Subjected Quran will be answered.
Peace

Do you really think someone would want to know about the cult of THE false prophet Muhammad after learning that he proclaimed the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, when you have helped to confirm that Muhammad's 7th century cult is an epic failure, whether on the basis of scripture, history, archaeology as well as being a geographical impossibility.
That Islam is ANTICHRIST.
Do you think that someone that wasn't already filled with the spirit of antichrist, would seek to be possessed by it, after learning about it through this thread?