And my mistake. I do not like Scofeild at all .......
What you claim you "do not like" is betrayed by your professing of futurist doctrine, that John Darby initiated in the English "Plymouth Brethren", and C.I. Scofield's annotated bible advanced in the 20th century U.S. "church".
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/end_time_myth.htmLike your hollow objections to being recognized as taking the side of Hamas, the Nazis, skinheads, and the KKK & David Duke, even as you demonize Zionism right alongside them.
There are TWO DISTINCT SIDES.http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2984.0Your claim of disliking the futurist doctrine that you simultaneously hold, smacks of Muslims that are deceived into believing they believe in Jesus, when the reality is perfectly polar, since they profess the exact opposite of the whole subject of the Gospel.
...... and I thought that is what you were referring to. So you have based your entire way of thinking on ONE mans BOOK which is Skolfeild?
No I have spent several years in full-time study, far beyond his book, including trying and testing his study in discussion with those that hold other eschatologies (though not as much time with heretics that hold unique, personal, one-off doctrines). The website links I have offered you (that are listed at the very bottom under this post) are the continuing result of that still-running study.
The bible advises us to:
Job 8:8
For enquire, I pray thee, of the former age, and prepare thyself to the search of their fathers: 9(For we [are but of] yesterday, and know nothing, because our days upon earth [are] a shadow:)Here is a list of a few of the people that support the basis of Skolfield's book, which is the day-year language of prophecy, within the
traditional continuous-historic context.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/traditional_framework.htmAugustine (AD 430)
Nahawendi (Jewish) (AD 8-9th century)
Jehoram (AD 10th century)
Abraham bar Hiyya (Jewish) (AD 1136)
Arnold of Villanova AD (1292)
Tichonius (AD 380)
Joachim of Floris (AD 1202)
John Wycliffe (AD c.1379)
Nicholas of Cusa (AD c.1452)
Martin Luther (AD 1522)
Phillip Melanchthon (AD 1543)
Johan Funck (AD 1558)
James I of England (AD 1600)
Sir Isaac Newton (AD 1727)
Quoting from "The False Prophet": "In 1569, the great Anabaptist theologian,
Thieleman van Braght, wrote the following in Martyrs Mirror, pages 21-24: '
a thousand two hundred and threescore days, which reckoned according to prophetic language means as many years… let it be reckoned as it may, say we, as a very long period of time.'
Two hundred years later,
Matthew Henry, in his 'Commentary of the Whole Bible', came to the same conclusion (Vol VI, page 1157 column 1, para. 2): "….if the beginning of that interval could be ascertained,
this number of prophetic days, taking a day for a year, would give us a prospect of when the end might be."
And incidental to my personal study:
Isaac Newton - "She is nourished by the merchants of the earth, three times or years and an half, or 42 months, or 1260 days:
and in these Prophecies days are put for years." - Observations Upon the Prophecies of Daniel, and the Apocalypse of St.a John - Chapter 3
Jamison, Faucett & Brown commentary - "..... in the wilderness 'a thousand two hundred and threescore days.' In the wider sense,
we may either adopt the year-day theory of 1260 years..."
While folks were sharp enough to understand this "language" of prophecy back then, they were also sharp enough to know they couldn't see the fulfillment of those day-year problems assigned by scripture, but they did recognize what the future would hold:
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm#isaac_newtonIsaac Newton: "All which is as much as to say, that these Prophecies of Daniel and John should not be understood till the time of the end: .... But in the very end, the Prophecy should be so far interpreted as to convince many."
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm#matthew_henryMatthew Henry: "VI. That this prophecy of those times, though sealed up now, would be of great use to those that should live then, v. 4. Daniel must now shut up the words and seal the book....but he must keep it safely, as a treasure of great value, laid up for the ages to come, to whom it would be of great service; for many shall then run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. Then this hidden treasure shall be opened, and many shall search into it, and dig for the knowledge of it, as for silver."
So while Isaac Newton and Matthew Henry knew they couldn't see it in their times, they recognized that those of later times would be able to see the wonderful fulfillment of the math problems we were assigned.
Like Daniel's two "times" problems that run in perfect parallel, over the span of 2500 years, confirming the dates of 1948 when Yahweh's people were restored to their land, and 1967 when they were restored to their city, heralding the beginning of what Daniel's prophecy labeled the "time of the end".http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htmMathematics confirming, what is further confirmed by the texts of those passages, as well as those of the former age. Quite a blessing to have so much confirmation.
Yet in spite of the profound fulfillment of these and several other problems, even after witnessing their perfect fulfillment, folks will turn their heads and stomp off, clutching their precious (15th to) 20th century heresies of preterism and futurism held tightly to their chests. The Berean spirit is completely gone, from a vast volume of the body of Christ, that is lorded over by nicolaitians.
WOW Like I said I will trust the Lord ........
I understand that might be what you think you do, but it's difficult to see how your insistence on
the other temple of God, bears it out. Let's investigate your claim a little further.
Job 8:8
For enquire, I pray thee, of the former age, and prepare thyself to the search of their fathers: 9(For we [are but of] yesterday, and know nothing, because our days upon earth [are] a shadow:)1. Please share with us where futurist doctrine is to be found in any church, prior to the mid-19th century when John Nelson Darby penned futurist eschatology, that you hold.
2. Then please share with us which of the fathers of the former age share your personal unique eschatology (or as you put it "
Here is part of the big secret.") and whether there is anyone, anywhere, even today, that shares it with you, and if so just who they are.
......... you keep your book! But thank You for the clarification.