PM chat with np

[Peter]

[[[[ OK then. So the Jews and Christians that have followed God for 3500 years, through the 1600 year record of God to mankind in His Word are heading to hellfire.

But the Mohammedans that follow the STAND-ALONE religion, based on the 23 year record of recitations, of unwitnessed "revelations", of A SINGLE 7th century false prophet that was, and taught, the EXACT OPPOSITE, of Jesus Christ and that 1600 year record of God to mankind, that was written by a murdering, pillaging, plundering, child doing, stepson wife stealing, sex enslaving, slave pimping, concubine fornicating, imperialistic thief, are all going to Mohammed's paradise to enjoy fresh water, lots of fruit, gold and jewel encrusted couches elevated to offer a phony sense of "dignity", silver goblets, rivers of wine, all served by young boys (imagine, slaves in heaven!), and relief from cold desert nights and blistering desert days, shade, all to enjoy while defiling multiple virgins, and a chicken in every pot!

Does anything about the above smell a bit fishy to you my friend?

If A SINGLE characterization of Mohammed above is incorrect according TO YOUR OWN BOOKS, please advise.


WHAT CAN I DO AND HOW CAN I HELP YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE RIGHT MEANING OF THE ALLEGORY WHICH YOU SAY ABOVE WHEN GOD ALMIGHTY BLINDED YOU ]]]]]


So then you don't deny that Mohammed was a "....murdering, pillaging, plundering, child doing, stepson wife stealing, sex enslaving, slave pimping, concubine fornicating, imperialistic thief....."

Yet you follow the 23 year record of that SINGLE 7th century illiterate reprobate and REJECT ALL the prophets and apostles that wrote of Jesus' crucifixion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT8XE2pA2PE

[Peter]

[[[[WHAT CAN I DO AND HOW CAN I HELP YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE RIGHT MEANING OF THE ALLEGORY WHICH YOU SAY ABOVE WHEN GOD ALMIGHTY BLINDED YOU ]]]]]

1. Let's start here? What are the multiple virgin partners for?

2. Does this mean that the women get multiple virgin partners too?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cAwBQUnh6M

[Peter]

[[[[[Luke 19:27
But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me." WHO SAID THAT YOUR GOD ?]]]]]

Yes but it is your understanding that is satanic. How could the same guy say that who said that the most important thing is to love our neighbors? Even to love our enemies. The New Testament also prophesies that there will be false accusers EXACTLY as you have proven yourself to be.

2Ti 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

See you even accuse JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF. A despiser of Jesus.

Jesus was telling His Apostles A PARABLE about a nobleman. The words He quoted were the words of that nobleman. The reason you couldn't see that is because you are unregenerate. Here is why Jesus spoke in parables:

Mar 4:9 ...but unto them that are without, all [these] things are done in parables: 12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and [their] sins should be forgiven them.

You see? What you did was prove you are unconverted - unregenerate - and remain wallowing in your sins. If you die in this condition you will carry your sins to your grave. You are bound for hell my friend.

Luk 19:11 And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable,....
12 He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country.....
14 But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this [man] to reign over us.

That describes you my friend. A hater of Jesus. You defy Him. You will not have Him reign over you. You teach the spirit of antichrist instead.

You see, it is prefaced by describing it as A PARABLE. It's about a nobleman who leaves some guys in charge and gives each a different amount of money and what each does with what he has been given.

Here is a thorough exploration of the passage:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=223.0

[[[[[KJVDeuteronomy 17:2-7)Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. IS THAT SATANIC VERSES ?

Numbers 31:17-18* 17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

WHAT KIND OF GOD IS THAT TO ORDER SUCH THINGS ?]]]]]

Best to ask the Jews, who the old covenant was given to, about why God revealed Himself the way that He did 3500 YEARS AGO at the beginning of mankind.

Perhaps they were being killed so that they could be saved before they sunk into idolatry that would condemn them forever. Some of the idolatry back then even included the sacrifice of animals.
Much milder than simply bowing to a black rock every day, or traveling to a black rock and marching around and around it for days at a time.

Where do innocent people go my friend? If folks were killed in the Old Testament in mass, where did the guilty go? What's the difference between being killed, or dying of a heart attack as you could in the next moment my friend?
Our life on this earth is like a fart in a global windstorm.
Where will you spend your eternity?

Mat 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

The better question is why did Mohammed reveal himself IN THE 7TH CENTURY as a pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife taking, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic coward and thief. A man, and book that are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDbzOLTt6hg

[Peter]

[[[Luke 19:27
But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me." WHO SAID THAT YOUR GOD ? DOESN'T THAT MEAN TO YOU JESUS IS AGREE WITH THE MUSLIMS WHO ARE FIGHTING THE BLINDED JEWS HOW YOU CALL THEM THE JEWS WHO DON'T ACCEPT JESUS AS CHRIST ? BECAUSE THERE IS NOT A SINGLE MUSLIM ON THIS PLANET WHO DOESN'T ACCEPT JESUS AS CHRIST !]]]]

This PARABLE is discussed in the prior PM and thoroughly explored here:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=223.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDbzOLTt6hg

[Peter]

[[[[[How the Gospel of Barnabas Survived The Gospel of Barnabas was accepted as a Canonical Gospel in the Churches of Alexandria till 325 C.E. Iranaeus (130-200) wrote in support of pure monotheism and opposed Paul for injecting into Christianity doctrines of the pagan Roman religion and Platonic philosophy. He had quoted extensively from the Gospel of Barnabas in support of his views. This shows that the Gospel of Barnabas was in circulation in the first and second centuries of Christianity. In 325 C.E., the Nicene Council was held, where it was ordered that all original Gospels in Hebrew script should be destroyed. An Edict was issued that any one in possession of these Gospels will be put to death. In 383 C.E., the Pope secured a copy of the Gospel of Barnabas and kept it in his private library....................PETEWALDO DO YOU THINK 325 C.E. THERE WAS A MUSLIMS AT THAT TIME TO DO THAT FORGERY WHAT YOU MENTIONED ?]]]]

Let it go my friend. The internal evidence in the book proves it was 16th century forgery. http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-judas-gospel-of-barnabas.htm

Next your source lies about iranaeus.But then you love lies.

Iraneous wrote considerably against Gnosticism.
However Mohammed incorporated many elements of this heresy into the Quran through the time he spent with the defrocked Catholic priest. The Gnostics thought Jesus was only a spirit, just like Muslims and the preposterous denial that He didn't die on the cross, but was instead somehow disappeared in front of hundreds, or thousands, of witnesses.

However "[1] Irenaeus is the earliest witness to recognition of the canonical character of all four gospels.[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irenaeus

And how does the Gospel of Mark begin?
Mark 1:1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;

Is it reasonable to believe that he would have been granted sainthood by the Roman Catholic Church if he denied the Son of God like you?

http://www.islamandthetruth.com/gospel_of_mark.htm

Walk away from your murdering, lying, fornicating, false prophet thief, and into the truth of God's Word, my friend.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDbzOLTt6hg

[Peter]

[[[[[NO BODY TILL TODAY 1430 YEARS OVERCOME ISLAM AND NEVER WILL !]]]]]]

Islam is just as prophesied.

[[[[[[THE FORCE WHICH RULES ISLAM IS THE CREATOR OF EVERYTHING AND THAT IS ALLAH , WE MUSLIMS MUST NOT BE EMBARRASS IN ANYTHING FROM THE TRUE RELIGION OF ISLAM WHICH IS THE FIRST RELIGION ON THE WORLD]]]]]]]

But that's just a foolish statement. Islam is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the way God revealed Himself through His 1600 year record.

[[[[[ START FROM OUR FATHER OF HUMAN RACE ADAM . THE LAST AND THE REAL PROPHET MUHAMMAD JUST DID THE CONCLUSION !]]]]]]]

Why do you suppose God would reveal Himself through a 1600 year record, and then turn around 600 years after that, and reveal the EXACT OPPOSITE and REJECT ALL of the prophets and apostles of the New Testament?

Does that really make sense to you?

Sura 5:47 Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath REVEALED THEREIN.

Matthew 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Mark 1:11 And there came a voice from heaven, [saying], Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Luke 9:35 And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.
2Peter 1:17...when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

So where does that put your murdering, pillaging, plundering, child doing, stepson wife stealing, sex enslaving, sex slave pimping 7th century common thief?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14IlPsZlks8

[Peter]

[[[See you even accuse JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF. A despiser of Jesus.
SORRY PETEWALDO ,BUT I DID NOT WRITE THE GOSPEL OF LUKE ! THAT WHAT I GAVE YOU AS EXAMPLE IS FROM THAT GOSPEL ! I DON'T HAVE ANY SIN TO BE BLAMED !]]]]]

But you would rather continue to accuse Jesus than simply read the passage.
Do you see how that spirit of antichrist works in your heart? The love of lies and hatred of truth. You ARE fulfilled prophecy.
Why not read the passage? Are you that bound and determined to burn in hell forever?

It isn't a long passage. Here it is:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=223.0

Luke 19:11 And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable,....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT8XE2pA2PE

[Peter]

[[[[[[[Luke 19:27
But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me." WHO SAID THAT YOUR GOD ? DOESN'T THAT MEAN TO YOU JESUS IS AGREE WITH THE MUSLIMS WHO ARE FIGHTING THE BLINDED JEWS HOW YOU CALL THEM THE JEWS WHO DON'T ACCEPT JESUS AS CHRIST ? BECAUSE THERE IS NOT A SINGLE MUSLIM ON THIS PLANET WHO DOESN'T ACCEPT JESUS AS CHRIST !]]]]

This PARABLE is discussed in the prior PM and thoroughly explored here:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=223.0


THIS IS NOT PARABLE PETEWALDO !!! ]]]]]]]

Then how do you explain this verse from a little earlier in that chapter?

Luke 19:11 And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable,


[[[[[[THAT WHAT YOU EXPLAIN IN THE LINK IS OUT OF CONTEST !!! THE TRUTH IS POWER AND IT IS ISLAM !]]]]

What I included in the link is THE ENTIRE CONTEXT of that parable.
From verse 11 to verse 28. You LOVE being the false accuser of Jesus don't you? Do you see how that makes you feel good? The love of the lie and hatred for all that is good? The false accuser of Jesus Christ Himself.

And then suggest that your lie is truth? You are indeed right. The power to do that certainly does come from Islam! Straight from Satan, my friend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT8XE2pA2PE

[Peter]

[[[Let it go my friend. The internal evidence in the book proves it was 16th century forgery. http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-judas-gospel-of-barnabas.htm


DO YOU THINK YEAR 325 C.E. IS 16TH CENTURY ? IF YES YOU ARE MASTERMIND .]]]]]

What I showed you was that all the stuff you were quoting was crap. But you love the crap as long as it helps you to be a good antichrist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT8XE2pA2PE

[Peter]

[[[[We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and that which was vouchsafed unto Moses and Jesus and the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered Quran(3:84)]]]]]]

No distinction indeed!!!
You REJECT THEM ALL!!! But who you have surrendered is Satan, my friend.

Mark 1:1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;
Matthew 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Mark 1:11 And there came a voice from heaven, [saying], Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Luke 9:35 And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.
2Peter 1:17...when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Satan is in your murdering 7th century common thief.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cAwBQUnh6M

[Peter]

[[[[[How can you to pretend to be the right Christian when you deny , reject the Eucharist ( The Christian Sacrament of Holy Communion , in which bread and wine are consecrated and consumed ) ?]]]]

Why would I reject that? What I reject is the Roman Catholic heresy of transubstantiation, that Jesus Christ's ACTUAL PHYSICAL blood and body are in that bread and wine after a RCC priest magically puts them there.
Many people were burned at the stake for saying exactly what I just did

This was written by a former nun

"One final quote, taken from "Foxe's Book of Martyrs" recounts how Mrs. Prest of Cornwall was accused of denying transubstantiation. Her final words to the Catholic bishop prior to being burned at the stake are very illuminating.

[Can you] deny your creed which says that Christ doth perpetually sit at the right hand of His Father, both body and soul, until He comes again; or whether He be there in heaven our Advocate, and to make prayer for us unto God His Father? If He be so, He is not here on earth in a piece of bread. If He be not here, and if He do not dwell in temples made with hands, but in heaven, what! Shall we seek Him here? If He did not offer His body once for all, why make you a new offering? If with one offering He made all perfect, why do you with a false offering make all imperfect? If He be to be worshipped in spirit and in truth, why do you worship a piece of bread? If He be eaten and drunken in faith and truth, if His flesh is not profitable to be among us, why do you say you make His flesh and blood, and say it is profitable for body and soul? Alas! I am a poor woman, but rather than to do as you do, I would live no longer. [16]"

[[[[ And you claimed that to be pagan tradition which has been put in the Christianity .]]]]]]

Only as understood by the heresy of the RCC and Orthodox. Their heresy is absolutely unsupportable by scripture and is PURELY in the traditions of their men. I fear for them np.

1Cr 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink [this] cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

[[[[[[[ If that is pagan tradition then tell me please what is not pagan in the Christianity ? ARE YOU REALLY ON THE RIGHT PATH ]]]]

Luk 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake [it], and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. 20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup [is] the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

His blood was shed for you too, np.

[Peter]

5-15

Now np could you please answer whether this is true or false:

If a Muslim confesses that Jesus is the Son of God he has committed the only sin in Islam, for which he cannot atone, through a temporary stop-over in hell.

Is that correct or not?

[Peter]

[[[[Only as understood by the heresy of the RCC and Orthodox. Their heresy is absolutely unsupportable by scripture and is PURELY in the traditions of their men. I fear for them np.
IF THE CHRISTIANITY IN ITS BEGINNING WHICH IS THE ORTHODOX AND THEN CAME CATHOLICISM AS SEPARATE CATHOLIC CHURCH WAS HERESY THEN WHAT ARE THE OTHER CHRISTIAN SECTS NOW DAYS INCLUDED YOURS ?]]]]

I don't presently have a sect. In the first century communion was A MEAL. Men CELEBRATED Jesus resurrection. They didn't kill him over and over again the way the Catholic church does. The RCC focuses on Jesus death. The first century Christians Jesus' life and resurrection.
But something is very important for you to understand.

ALL CHRISTIANS BELIEVE WE ARE SAVED BY THE SHED BLOOD OF THE SON OF GOD. This is the WHOLE SUBJECT of the New Testament. Without it there ARE NO New Testament apostles or prophets.

THIS IS THE OPPOSITE of Mohammedanism. That's how we can know Mohammed was inspired by satan. Let alone that he himself believed it to be jinn in the cave.

[[[[[How can you to pretend to be the right Christian when you deny , reject the Eucharist ( The Christian Sacrament of Holy Communion , in which bread and wine are consecrated and consumed ) ?]]]]

Why would I reject that? What I reject is the Roman Catholic heresy of transubstantiation, that Jesus Christ's ACTUAL PHYSICAL blood and body are in that bread and wine after a RCC priest magically puts them there.
Many people were burned at the stake for saying exactly what I just did

YOU PUT YOUR SELF HIGHER THEN THOSE HOLY FATHERS OF THE ORTHODOX CHURCH WHO WERE GUIDED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT DIDN'T THEY? ]]]]]

Making a claim of being guided by the Holy Spirit, and being led by the Holy Spirit are two different things. Here is how we are expected to know:

1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

They can't prove their phony doctrine of transubstantiation because it is a non-scriptural heresy. They even burned people at the stake for refuting that heresy.
Who do you think was right? the guys being burned at the stake, or the guys kindling the fire?

[[[[[THEY WERE GUIDED HOW TO DO THE HOLY LITURGY AND KNEW PERFECT THE FRESH CHRISTIANITY IN THEIR UNDERSTANDING.]]]]]

That's not correct. They understand the "Christianity" that Constantine invented.

[[[[[ AND NOW YOU CALL THEM THEY JUST FOLLOW THE TRADITION OF MAN ]]]]]

Because their tradition cannot be proven. That's because it is false. Jesus warned the Pharisees of the very same thing:

Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

[[[[[ ACCORDING TO THE ORTHODOX CHURCH YOU DID GREAT BLASPHEMY !!!]]]]

By doing what? Calling transubstantiation heresy?
Of course they would say that. The RCC/Orthodox have tried to maintain a franchise on God since back when they used to charge men money to absolve their sins. A very lucritive trade. No different today except they scare men into feeding their coffers.

Please read this paper by an X-nun on their heresy of transubstantiation:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=70.0

[[[[ HOW CAN YOU BEEN MAN IN 21TH CENTURY AND TO KNOW THE THINGS BETTER THEN THOSE WHO WERE REALLY HIGH IN THEIR RELIGIOUS KNOWLEDGE ]]]]]

Because I follow the Word of God and not the traditions of men.
The Roman Catholic church is so often in error against the Word of God they had to rule that THEIR TRADITIONS HAD EQUAL VALUE with the Word of God. NOW THAT'S UNSPEAKABLE HERESY, my friend.

[[[[[ WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ]]]]

A bible believing Christian. What do you think the reformation was all about? It was about men finally getting access to the bible and exposing the Roman Catholic heresies for exactly what they are. There is no shortage in the church that believe the Catholic Church to be the "great whore" mentioned in the book of Revelation. I am beginning to help a friend of mine overcome the grip of that church as I write.

Imagine a pope kissing the Quran. The very book that says:
Sura 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious HAS BEGOTTEN A SON!" 89 INDEED YE HAVE PUT FORTH A THING MOST MONSTROUS!

The very book that curses him for being a Christian:
Surah 9.30 THE JEWS CALL UZAIR A SON OF GOD, AND THE CHRISTIANS CALL CHRIST THE SON OF GOD. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. GODS CURSE BE ON THEM: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

He sold out Jesus to Satan and helped millions of Muslims on their way to hell.

[[[[[ WHAT YOU TRY TO MAKE YOUR SELF YOU IN THE LAST EMAIL SAID ABOUT HUMAN LIFE IS LIKE FART , BUT YOU ARE NOTHING THEN FART !!!]]]]

You didn't understand. What I said is that our life in this world, compared to our eternal life, is like a fart in a global windstorm.

Try it like this. When you see a little steam escape from your teapot in the morning, that represents the length of our life on earth.
Compare that little vapor with earth's entire atmosphere. That is how the length of our life on earth, compares with our ETERNAL LIFE.

Where will you spend yours?
Will you have Jesus rule and reign over your life, or will you go the way of the nobleman's servants?

[Peter]

[[[[Now np could you please answer whether this is true or false:

If a Muslim confesses that Jesus is the Son of God he has committed the only sin in Islam, for which he cannot atone, through a temporary stop-over in hell.

Is that correct or not?

ALLAH DOESN'T HAVE SONS OR DAUGHTERS !!! IF THE HOLY QUR'AN TEACHES US NOT DO DO SHIRK WE MUST FOLLOW THAT WHAT IS WRITTEN IN OUR SO HOLY BOOK ! IF YOU MAKE FUN WITH THAT BOOK AND THINK YOU ARE HIGH THEN ITS SENDER THEN CONTINUE TO DO SO !]]]

I am not trying to make fun by asking this question.
If it doesn't have an answer then tell me that.
Let me try it another way.

1. If a person steals, can they atone for it in hell and then go to heaven?
2, if a person commits adultery can they atone for it in hell and then go to heaven?
3. if a person commits murder can they atone for it in hell and then go to heaven?
4. If a person confesses that Jesus is the Son of God can they atone for it in hell and then go to heaven?

[Peter]

Never mind. I found my answer here
:
http://muslim-responses.com/Shirk/Shirk_

I kept asking because I didn't want my latest paper to be inaccurate. Confessing Jesus is the Son of God is the only unpardonable sin in Islam.

Since Satan's Islam is always the PERFECTION OF OPPOSITE of ALL OF THE PROPHETS AND APOSTLES in the New Testament of the Word of God I was pretty confident I understood it correctly.

1John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

Luke 12:8 Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God:

Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM.

Where will you spend your eternity? With ALL the prophets and apostles, and Jesus Christ, or with the ONE that PERFECTLY OPPOSED THEM?

[Peter]

There are so many Muslim imams lining up for baptism that Father Zechariah can't keep up with them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdzynL3JJRw

[Peter]

[[[WHY IN YOUR HOLY BOOKS ( TORAH AND THE GOSPELS , WHO KNOWS HOW MANY THEY ARE? ]]]]

All bibles have the same number of books except for the Catholic bible who added the Aprocypha in the 11th century as a weapon against the reformation.
Comically those are HEBREW books that the Jews don't consider inspired.

[[[) DON'T HAVE ANY SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATION LIKE IN THE QUR'AN ? BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY PROOFS OF THAT WHAT I SAY HERE . ONE EXAMPLE WE WERE TOLD IN THE QUR'AN : " WE MADE BARRIER BETWEEN THE SALTY WATER AND THE SWEET WATER AND THEY DON'T MIX TO EACH OTHER ". THAT IS SAID IN THE QUR'AN 1430 YEARS AGO . BUT IN 1970 CHRISTIAN SCIENTISTS FOUND THE SALTY WATER OF THE OCEAN DOESN'T MIX WITH THE SWEET WATER OF THE LAKE ONTARIO !!! AND THE OTHER LAKES TOO !!!!]]]]

This is all preposterous nonsense. First, there were rivers in the middle east whose current prevented the ocean from coming up too.
Second hat do you think BRACKISH water is? It's a mixture of salt and fresh, like in the coastal grasslands of Georgia, and the swamps along the Gulf.

Look it up: "Brackish water is water that has more salinity than fresh water, but not as much as seawater."

In fact a guy kept adding salt water to fresh water and found that even fresh water fish can adapt over a relatively short period of time.
Your prophet was an ignorant nutjob that simply never saw a brackish coastal swamp.

[[[[96- The Embryo (Al-Alaq)
In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful]]]

We begin as an EGG, not a bloodclot as Mohammed mistakenly believed.

Mohammed witnessed, or someone described a miscarried zygote to Mohammed, and you think it's a miracle?

That verse proved Mohammed's IGNORANCE, and his ignorance certainly wasn't a miracle. He couldn't even read.

But you are fooled by such nonsense as it is prophesied.

Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and FALSE PROPHETS, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

[[[[96:1] Read, in the name of your Lord, who created.

[96:2] He created man from an embryo.

[96:3] Read, and your Lord, Most Exalted.

[96:4] Teaches by means of the pen.

[96:5] He teaches man what he never knew.

96:6] Indeed, the human transgresses.

[96:7] When he becomes rich.

[96:8] To your Lord is the ultimate destiny.

[96:9] Have you seen the one who enjoins.

[96:10] Others from praying?

[96:11] Is it not better for him to follow the guidance?

[96:12] Or advocate righteousness?

[96:13] If he disbelieves and turns away.

[96:14] Does he not realize that GOD sees?

[96:15] Indeed, unless he refrains, we will take him by the forelock.

96:16] A forelock that is disbelieving and sinful.

[96:17] Let him then call on his helpers.

[96:18] We will call the guardians of Hell.

[96:19] You shall not obey him; you shall fall prostrate and draw nearer.

THE HOLY QUR'AN IS HIGHER THAN THE TORAH AND THAN THE ALL GOSPELS WHICH EXIST ! EVEN WE MUSLIMS ACCEPT THOSE HOLY BOOKS AS HOLY ! GIVE ME STRONG PROOF OF THE OPPOSITE IF YOU HAVE ANY !

112- Absoluteness (Al-Ikhlaas)
In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

[112:1] Proclaim, "He is the One and only GOD.

[112:2] "The Absolute GOD.

[112:3] "Never did He beget. Nor was He begotten.

[112:4] "None equals Him."

Surah 9.30 The JEWS call 'Uzair a son of Allah......................................
DO YOU THINK UZAIR WAS THE SON OF GOD TOO? HOW MANY SONS YOUR GOD HAS?]]]

God has ONLY ONE BEGOTTEN SON that was conceived in a virgin, by the will of God. But regenerate men are sons of God.

Gal 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

Here's the promised Son of God in the Old Testament:

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

You're probably familiar with this verse:

"...Jesus spake even when he was in the cradle, and said: 'Mary, I am Jesus the son of God. That word which thou didst bring forth according to the declaration of the angel...'''

Oh wait, but Mohammed said "servant". Well that was Mohammed's spin on the verse that he plagerized from an apocryphal fable written in Egypt titled "First Gospel of the Infancy of Jesus Christ".
A preposterous non-biblical fable of course.

[[[BECAUSE OUR ALLAH IS NOT MAN IS NOT WOMAN AND HE DOESN'T HAVE SONS AND DAUGHTERS .WHAT OUR ALLAH IS IT IS SAID VERY CLEAR IN THE SURAH : 112]]]]]

That's how we know the Quran is of Satan. An EXACT CONTRADICTION to hundreds of verses that describe the relationship between God the Father and His only begotten Son Jesus Christ.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=316.0
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=55.0

[[[[Begotten is simply that. He was made MANIFEST in a virgin. Begotten of God. That was only His beginning as being manifest in the flesh. Beginning only of His human form.
HIS HUMAN FORM BECAUSE HE IS ONLY IN HUMAN FORM ! HE NEVER CLAIMED TO BE ALLAH ! (YHWH) !]]]

Here's Jesus on the subject. This is how the one that will judge you put it:

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, ALL POWER IS GIVEN UNTO ME IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XV8ZLLWoBo

[Peter]

[[[[THAT WHAT YOU SAY HERE IS 100% NONSENSE. YOU ARE SO FAR AWAY FROM THE TRUTH !]]]]

Sure. The people that have followed God for 3500 years, through ALL of the prophets and apostles of 2 covenants in the 1600 year record of God's revelation to mankind got it wrong.

But Mohammedans that follow the 23 year record of A SINGLE, 7th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife taking, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic coward and thief, that met jinn in a cave - a man, and book that are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament, got it right.

Makes perfect sense.

[Peter]

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[[[[Sure. The people that have followed God for 3500 years, through ALL of the prophets and apostles of 2 covenants in the 1600 year record of God's revelation to mankind got it wrong.WE DON'T DENY THAT !!! IF YOU ARE REALLY SMART HOW YOU PRETEND TO BE YOU WILL HAVE FULL UNDERSTANDING OF THAT , WHAT IS THE ISLAMIC POINT OF VIEW OF THOSE THINGS WHICH YOU ARE TALKING ALL THE TIME !!!]]]]

I understand fully that Islam is THE EXACT OPPOSITE of God's revelation to mankind.

[[[[But Mohammedans ( SORRY WE ARE NOT CALLING OUR SELF'S MUHAMMADANS WE ARE MUSLIMS MUHAMMADANS IN ISLAM THAT TERM DOESN'T EXIST )]]]

Sorry my friend. That term even passes my computer spell check so I can assure you it exists.

And the reason you are Mohammedans is because you follow Mohammed and his STAND-ALONE 7th century religious invention, and with him reject the record that God gave us. If you don't repent the price for you disobedience will be eternal:

1Jo 5:10 He that BELIEVETH ON THE SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because HE BELIEVED NOT THE RECORD that God gave OF HIS SON.

See? You're just another lying Mohammedan imam.

[[[that follow the 23 year record ( 1600 years+ 23 years = 1623 years THAT IS THE LAST PROPHET'S CONCLUSION GUIDED BY THE REAL CREATOR OF EVERYTHING AND THAT IS ALLAH =YHWH )of A SINGLE, 7th century ( YES THAT 7 CENTURY WAS THE TIME CHOSEN FROM ALLAH TO DO HIS CONCLUSION THROUGH HIS CHOSEN LAST PROPHET MUHAMMAD PBUH WHICH YOU DENY.......]]]]

Ya right. God's conclusion was to REJECT ALL of the prophets and apostles of His 1600 year record, and be represented by A SINGLE 7th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife taking, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic coward and thief. A man, and book that are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament.

[[[[..... AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY ALL OF YOU WILL GO TO THE REAL ETERNAL HELL I FEEL SORRY FOR ALL OF YOU ),....]]]

Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM.

[[[[...... illiterate,( YES ILLITERATE BUT HE GAVE TO THE WORLD BOOK # 1 WHICH BOOK NOBODY IS ABLE TO BEAT !!! )....]]]]]

Nobody else could make that big of a mess of something, with over 225 verses subject to abrogation in 71 out of 114 surahs, and stories beginning in the middle, or having no end, with no historical or apologetic organization with portions copied from books of fables.
Face it my friend Mohammed's self-serving book is a joke.

I highly recommend the book "Anatomy of the Quran" by G.J.O. Moshay.
But you won't read it because you know that it would cause a crisis of faith. And we know that the last thing Mohammed's phony god could stand is questions.

Surah 5:101 O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble....

[[[[.... pillaging, plundering, ......]]]

8 - AL-ANFAL (SPOILS OF WAR, BOOTY)

[[[......murdering,....]]]

Mohammed even had poets murdered in their sleep.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=127.0

Let alone his murderous imperialistic conquests, and murder of villages of Jews and the murder of Islam, all around the world, unto today. Everywhere we find murder, mayhem and misery around the world we find Islam. Over 13,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world, just since 9-11:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

[[[[.... child doing, ......]]]

A 53 year old splashing in the tub with his 9 year old "wife":
bukhari (6:298) Narrated 'Aisha:

The Prophet and I used to take a bath from a single pot while we were Junub. During the menses, he used to order me to put on an Izar (dress worn below the waist) and used to fondle me. While in Itikaf, he used to bring his head near me and I would wash it while I used to be in my periods (menses).

[[[[.....stepson's wife taking,....]]]

"'Praise belongeth unto Allah who turneth the hearts of men as he willeth.'

"Zaid got the message and arranged to divorce his wife. Muhammad knew quite well that nothing short of a new "revelation" could save his face from this detestable act, so he dissuaded Zaid from putting his wife away until the transaction could be sanctioned by a "revelation" from Allah:

"Behold! thou didst say to one who had received the grace of God and thy Favor: 'retain thou [in wedlock] thy wife, and fear God.' But thou didst fear in thy heart that which God was about to make manifest: thou didst fear the people, but it is more fitting that thou shouldest fear God. Then when Zaid had dissolved [his marriage] with her, with the necessary [formality], we joined her in marriage to thee: in order that in [the future] there may be no difficulty to the believers in [the matter of] marriage with the wives of their adopted sons, when the later have dissolved with the necessary [formality] [their marriage] with them. And God's command must be fulfilled." (Sura 33:37)" - from Islam Reviewed


[[[[..... sex slave capturing,........]]]

"O prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war....
this only for thee, and not for believers [at large]; we know what we have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hand possess;..."

[[[....... slave pimping, ....]]]]

Sura 24:33:...But force not your maids to prostitution WHEN they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),

But WHEN they dont want to preserve their chastity then pimp em out and make some cash!
And even if you force them into prostitution Allah will forgive anyway!
What a convenient god!

[[[[....concubine fornicating,.....]]]

He had at least 2 children that resulted from fornicating with concubines.

[[[[..... bloody imperialistic coward......]]]]

Mohammed handed his sword to someone else to carry into battle while he retired to a distant hill to watch surrounded by 12 body guards while wearing 2 suits of chainmail. Talk about a COWARD!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE3Lpiv9kO8

[[[[.... and thief,...

A whole surah is devoted to disposition of property stolen from others through imperialistic conquest, even detailing Mohammed's 1/5 share.
8 AL-ANFAL (SPOILS OF WAR, BOOTY)

Very good YouTube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/podremvc

[[[.... ( THOSE THINGS YOU MUST SAY TO YOUR JEWS ) !!! ]]]

See? That's a lie and you know it. And if you ever read the Quran and hadith you also know all of the characterizations I made of your reprobate false prophet are TRUE!

[[[that met jinn in a cave ( I LOVE THE JINNS AND I CONTACT THEM ALL THE TIME THE MUSLIM JINNS OF COURSE THEY ARE WITH SO HIGH INTELLECT ) ( HOW ABOUT YOU ? YOU DON'T LIKE THE JINNS ? )]]]]

That's interesting. Mohammed's sugarmomma first wife had a former husband that was also in contact with jinn all the time. He said they gave him his news. It was likely that connection to jinn that Mohammed's wife missed on the death of her husband that made her want to encourage Mohammed to stay connected with the jinn he met in the cave.

[[[[ - a man, and book that are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament, got it right.]]]]

God's people have worshiped Him for 3500 years, my friend. You worship Satan, without even knowing it. Look around you my friend. Look at the fruit.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

[Peter]

[[[[The guy doesn't even know that Greek was the lingua franca of the 1st century and the "language" of Christianity.
Who wrote it? Mel Gibson?

DID JESUS CHRIST SPEAK GREEK ???]]]]

Of course He did. How do you think He could have addressed the multitudes in Hebrew, when the lingua franca of the day was Koine Greek?
That would be like a speaker in the U.S. addressing his audience in Yiddish.

[[[[ MAY BE ACCORDING TO YOU JESUS WAS GREEK ???????????????]]]

Jesus is a Jew of the seed of David:

Jhn 7:42 Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?

[[[[ARE YOU SAYING THE ORIGINAL BIBLE ,TORAH,....]]]]

The Torah was of course written in Hebrew, with almost half of the book of Daniel written in Aramaic.]]]

[[[[... AND ALL GOSPELS WAS WRITTEN IN GREEK ???????????]]]]

Yes. The Gospels were written in Koine Greek which was the lingua franca of the day of that area.

[[[GO IN AUSTRALIA TO ASK MEL GIBSON WHO HAS JEWISH BLOOD TOO . HE PLAYED BIG TRICKS TO WHOLE WORLD LIKE ALWAYS JEWS DO !!!]]]

He apparently played a big trick on you if you believe the New Testament was written in Aramaic and that Jesus spoke Aramaic in a Greek speaking world around Him.

What's wrong with Jewish blood? Jesus is a Jew.

[Peter]

(((((DID JESUS CHRIST SPEAK GREEK ???]]]]

Of course He did. How do you think He could have addressed the multitudes in Hebrew, when the lingua franca of the day was Koine Greek?
That would be like a speaker in the U.S. addressing his audience in Yiddish. GIVE ME PROOFS FROM THE GOSPELS AND THE BIBLE HE DID SPEAK GREEK !))))))))))


It was written in Greek.


((((((((((([[[[ MAY BE ACCORDING TO YOU JESUS WAS GREEK ???????????????]]]

Jesus is a Jew of the seed of David
JEWS ARE ALWAYS PEOPLE WITH GREAT PRIDE FROM THE BEGINNING TILL NOW !))))))))))


That's just plain stupid. The regenerate Jews that I know, whose lives revolve around their temple and faith based community, are also the most humble people I know.
Though I would be inclined to agree with you regarding agnostic unregenerate Jews if I were prone to generalization, which I am not.


(((((((((((DO YOU THINK JESUS WILL SPEAK LANGUAGE OTHER THEN JEWISH ( HEBREW ) AND ARAMAIC ?))))))


If He hadn't spoken Greek He would not have been understood by the vast majority of His audience when He addressed them.


(((((((DO YOU THINK HE WILL SPEAK THE LANGUAGE OF THE PAGANS GREEKS ?)))))))))


He would, of course, have spoken in whatever language he would be understood in. Why is that so difficult for you to understand?


(((((((( THAT IS YOUR ANOTHER SCREW UPS !!!

[[[[ARE YOU SAYING THE ORIGINAL BIBLE ,TORAH,....]]]]

The Torah was of course written in Hebrew, with almost half of the book of Daniel written in Aramaic.]]]

[[[[... AND ALL GOSPELS WAS WRITTEN IN GREEK ???????????]]]]

Yes. The Gospels were written in Koine Greek which was the lingua franca of the day of that area.

TOTALLY FALSE THE ORIGINALS WERE WRITTEN IN PURE HEBREW AND ARAMAIC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!))))))


Only the Old Testament.


(((((((((THEN TRANSLATED TO KOINE GREEK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)))))))))


That's simply not true. Do you really think folks were going around talking in an obsolete language in a Greek speaking world? That's silly np.

(((((([[[GO IN AUSTRALIA TO ASK MEL GIBSON WHO HAS JEWISH BLOOD TOO . HE PLAYED BIG TRICKS TO WHOLE WORLD LIKE ALWAYS JEWS DO !!!]]]

He apparently played a big trick on you if you believe the New Testament was written in Aramaic and that Jesus spoke Aramaic in a Greek speaking world around Him.

What's wrong with Jewish blood? Jesus is a Jew.

NOTHING WRONG WITH THE JEWISH BLOOD WHEN THEY ARE REAL WORSHIPERS OF ALLAH = YHWH . THE PROBLEM IS WHEN THEY PLAY TRICKS WITH THEIR CREATOR HASHEM= ALLAH =YHWH !!!))))))))


"Allah" is the name of the moon god of the Kabba.
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm

[Peter]

[[[[Aramaic is thus one of the most important languages in human history. There is no doubt that Aramaic was still an important language in the Middle East in the time of Jesus.]]]]

But not THE MAIN language.

[[[[[ But was Aramaic 'the language of Jesus'?

As much as there is any popular opinion on the topic, most people seem to assume that Aramaic was the Jewish language of the time.]]]]

What kind of nonsense is this? The Jews switched from Hebrew?
They would have spoken in Hebrew and/or Greek, the lingua franca of the period.

[[[[Hence it is assumed that it must have been Jesus' language. In a similar vein I have found many people quite surprised to discover that the overwhelming majority of The Dead Sea Scrolls are in Hebrew, not Aramaic,nor in Greek !]]]]

Who would be surprised by that? They are HEBREW documents that date hundreds of years before Christ, with uncannonized Hebrew rule books with later dating.
Is this guy simply that stupid?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_scrolls

[[[[Three main candidates have been seriously proposed by scholars for 'the language of Jesus': Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic. Putting the question in this way may, of course, already create a false expectation that only one of these could have been used by Jesus.]]]]]]]

How many languages do you thin this guy might speak:

Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

[[[[[ We in fact know of many societies, both ancient and modern, where multilingualism is the norm. Jesus could have used all three of these languages. The question then would be, in which contexts did he use which languages? But knowing that Jesus was Jew and he mostly speak Hebrew and Aramaic .]]]]

All of a sudden the guy pretends to "know" something that he only speculated about earlier. See how willing you are to accept any kind of lie to support your satanic belief system?

[[[[The Gospels were written in those three languages Hebrew , Aramaic and Greek .]]]]

Here's even your phony god "Allah", speaking in the 7th CENTURY on the Gospels:

Sura 5:47 Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath REVEALED THEREIN.

Sura 5:68 Say: "O People of the Book! ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye STAND FAST BY the Law, THE GOSPEL, and ALL THE REVELATION that has come to you from YOUR Lord."

What kind of Muslim are you np to be trying to tear down the Gospels?

[Peter]

[[[WHO HE REALLY IS ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsP052z5hLk&feature=related]]]

Didn't you know Obama is a closet Muslim?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMUgNg7aD8M

[Peter]

[[[[THAT IS MORE CLEAR WHO HE REALLY IS :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gjMHJ8Y90s]]]

Of course. Obama is of Satan because Islam is of Satan. Just as you are an antichrist.
Look at the destruction he has already visited on our Republic. In just weeks he ran up bills that the U.S. will never be able to repay, except through creating fraudulent currency like the German Wiemar Republic.
Surely you don't think he became a Christian by sitting and stewing in the racist "black liberation theology" church (basically taxpayer subsidized racism) of Jeremiah Wright!!!

Thanks for the great video np!!!

[Peter]

"ARE YOU KIDDING ? HE IS THE ED DEDJAL !"

I didn't get very far Yahooing that term but I am guessing you mean some kind of antichrist.

The bible doesn't seem to teach an individual antichrist, though there is no small amount of heretical tradition in the church that does.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w71CtxLdjio