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Peter · « **Reply #50 on:** June 03, 2009, 03:38:08 PM »

PeteWaldo (1 day ago)

"TELL ME WHY GOD JESUS AND GOD FATHER AND GOD HOLY SPIRIT THOSE THREE PERSONS BUT ONE GOD DECIDE JESUS TO INCARNATE IN HUMAN BODY AND TO SHED HIS BLOOD TO SAVE THE HUMANS BY DIEING MISERABLE DEATH , DID NOT THEY FIND ANOTHER WAY TO SAVE THE HUMANS?"

We can't know the "whys" as to God choosing to reveal Himself this way, only that He did.
Rom 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable [are] his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

From the Old Testament and the temple animal sacrifice, to the ONE SACRIFICE for all, Jesus Christ, remission of sin is through blood sacrifice.
Hbr 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

Peter · « **Reply #51 on:** June 03, 2009, 03:38:44 PM »

PeteWaldo (1 day ago)

"ONE GOD BUT BETWEEN THEM THEY HAVE HIERARCHY THE FIRST IS THE FATHER THE SECOND IS THE SON JESUS AND THE THIRD IS THE HOLY SPIRIT . ARE THEY NOT EQUAL TO EACH OTHER ? THIS IS ANOTHER SCREW UPS IN THE CHRISTIANITY !"

But you wrote it at the beginning of your question. ONE GOD. Where do you get the "second" and "third" stuff?
1John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

You see? They are ALL GOD. Jesus is how God chose to manifest Himself and how He chose mediation with mankind.
1Ti 2:5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Peter · « **Reply #52 on:** June 03, 2009, 03:39:03 PM »

PeteWaldo (1 day ago)
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"...THE CROSS IS OCCULT SYMBOL WHICH WAS USED 5000 YEARS AGO..."

You seem to be suggesting that the cross is simply a symbol. Perhaps something from mens imaginations.
My friend, The cross is what Jesus was crucified on to save us from our sins.

Now even Muslims believe that SOMEBODY died on that cross that day, yet you pretend that it was just some sort of symbol, rather than a matter of historical fact.

Do you ever wonder why your mind works so hard to deny something that even the Quran teaches, and you believe, existed and happened?
It is that spirit of antichrist working in your heart, my friend. It is Satan manifest in your being.
He has removed a love of truth and replaces it with a love of lies. Like how you still respect Ahmed Deedat, even though he is a proven liar that deluded you with a phony bible verse of his own creation.
The same reason you follow, indeed you lead in, the Satanic death cult of Islam.

Peter · « **Reply #53 on:** June 03, 2009, 03:39:28 PM »

PeteWaldo (1 day ago)

2Thes 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 [EVEN HIM],WHOSE COMING IS AFTER THE WORKING OF SATAN with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because THEY RECEIVED NOT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, THAT THEY SHOULD BELIEVE A LIE: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Peter · « **Reply #54 on:** June 03, 2009, 03:39:54 PM »

PeteWaldo (1 day ago)

Anyone following our conversation will readily notice that instead of answering to Mohammed's preposterous suggestion that the Jews are quoted as boasting "We Christ Jesus...."
And as to why would the Jews have recognized Jesus as their Messiah, and then turned around and killed Him, np is silent on the question.

np, instead of answering, runs away by posting a bunch of useless spam in order to flush the question away to successive pages. That's why this limited character and rapidly revolving venue works so well for liars and deceivers.
That is also why he has been terrified - for over a year - to join me where we can have constructive discussion in the forum.
brotherpete. com/index. php
He prefers instead to squander both of our time in this venue.

Peter · « **Reply #55 on:** June 03, 2009, 05:22:17 PM »

PeteWaldo (1 day ago)

Mohammed's phony god's answer is, of course, to run away from truth and stick your head in the sand, according to his false prophet who had not tolerance for questions:
[5:101] O you who believe, do not ask about matters which, if revealed to you prematurely, would hurt you. If you ask about them in light of the Quran...

That's why Mohammed even had poets killed. Too many questions.
Mohammed even admitted why Muslims are supposed to run and hide from the truth:
[5:102] Others before you have asked the same questions, then became disbelievers therein.

That's also why Muslims are prevented from making friends with kufar, why bibles are banned in Muslim countries, and why the penalty for leaving the Islamic death cult is to be killed.
brotherpete. com
What kind of God would discourage questions? Certainly not the God of the Jews and Christians:
1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

Peter · « **Reply #56 on:** June 03, 2009, 05:23:05 PM »

PeteWaldo (1 day ago)

"Aramaic is thus one of the most important languages in human history. There is no doubt that Aramaic was still an important language in the Middle East in the time of Jesus. But was Aramaic 'the language of Jesus'?"

The answer to that question is that Koine Greek was the lingua franca of the area of that time and as a result the language the New Testament was written in.
If Jesus had addressed the multitudes in Aramaic it would have been somewhat akin to a business speaker in the U.S. addressing his audience in Yiddish.

Peter · « **Reply #57 on:** June 03, 2009, 05:23:26 PM »

PeteWaldo (1 day ago)

So what's the answer np? If you aren't a total coward in the mold of your false prophet please address the following rather than ignoring it, and putting so much effort into spamming it away yet again.

Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus..."

If the Jews recognized Jesus as their "Christ", that is Messiah, why would they have wanted to kill Him?

Peter · « **Reply #58 on:** June 03, 2009, 05:24:17 PM »

np33123 (19 hours ago)

Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus..."

YES THE JEWS SAID THAT TO THEMSELVES MEANING WE KILLED THE FALSE CHRIST THAT IS HOW THEY CONTINUE TO SAY TILL TODAY !!!!!!!!!!!

Peter · « **Reply #59 on:** June 03, 2009, 05:24:39 PM »

PeteWaldo (7 hours ago)

"Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus..."

YES THE JEWS SAID THAT TO THEMSELVES MEANING WE KILLED THE FALSE CHRIST THAT IS HOW THEY CONTINUE TO SAY TILL TODAY !!!!!!!!!!! "

Then why didn't Mohammed quote them as saying "We killed the false Christ Jesus..."
Wouldn't you consider that a somewhat significant omission?
How could Mohammed have made such an egregious error?
Indeed changing the quote to THE OPPOSITE of the way it actually reads.
Perhaps for the same reason that Mohammed made such a mess of his phony book that over 250 verses, in 71 out of only 114 suras, are subject to abrogation?
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=116.0
You know - the Al-Nasikh wal-Mansoukh

Peter · « **Reply #60 on:** June 03, 2009, 05:24:59 PM »

PeteWaldo (5 hours ago)

Quran 2:106 None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?

Would be comical if not so tragic.
Not abrogated.... just.... substituted!!!.... for something.... better!!!!..... or... er... similar!!! Preposterous!

Psa 12:6 The words of the LORD [are] pure words: [as] silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

Peter · « **Reply #61 on:** June 03, 2009, 05:25:22 PM »

np33123 (2 hours ago)

YOU AND EVERYONE IN THE WORLD KNOW THAT THE QUR'AN WAS NOT WRITTEN BY PROPHET MUHAMMAD ! BUT IT WAS SENT BY THE SUPERNATURAL WAY FROM THE CREATOR OF THE WORLDS ! IF YOU SAY THAT WAS NOT THE CREATOR ALLAH ( THE GOD ) , IF YOU SAY THAT WAS THE SATAN HOW YOU ALL THE TIME CLAIM TO BE, THEN EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THE SATAN IS VERY HIGH INTELLIGENT BEING AND HE HAS PERFECT KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THAT WHAT HE SAYS , RIGHT ! HOW CAN SATAN HAVE MADE SUCH AN EGREGIOUS ERROR ??? DO YOU MAKE YOUR SELF MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE THAN SATAN ???

Peter · « **Reply #62 on:** June 03, 2009, 05:25:44 PM »

PeteWaldo (2 hours ago)

"YOU AND EVERYONE IN THE WORLD KNOW THAT THE QUR'AN WAS NOT WRITTEN BY PROPHET MUHAMMAD! "
No it was recited by Mohammed, from inspiration in a meeting with Satan in a cave.
And from Jewish fables and folklore that Mohammed's multilingual Jewish secretary shared with him out of a collection of Jewish folk tales called "Midrash Rabbah" (ie. Mohammed's stories of Abraham and Mary and Jesus).
And from regular meetings that he had with a "Christian" named Jabr who gave Mohammed so much of his material just prior to his "revelations" that Jabr's local nickname became "holy spirit".
Just because Mohammed was too mentally challenged to learn how to read, doesn't mean he was deaf.

Peter · « **Reply #63 on:** June 03, 2009, 05:26:31 PM »

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PeteWaldo (2 hours ago)

If God inspired it why is it the EXACT OPPOSITE of the 1600 year record of God to mankind that was closed hundreds of years previously?
Why in the brief period of just 23 years was "Allah" so confused that he had to scratch verse after verse through abrogation? What kind of god is that?
No, it's obvious that Mohammed's is a preposterously confused 23 year self-serving record. Just look at Mohammed's preposterous idea of heaven. A chicken and wine serving bordello.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEfKpgiYgHY

Peter · « **Reply #64 on:** June 03, 2009, 05:26:54 PM »

PeteWaldo (2 hours ago)

"YOU AND EVERYONE IN THE WORLD KNOW THAT THE QUR'AN WAS NOT WRITTEN BY PROPHET MUHAMMAD! "
No it was recited by Mohammed, from inspiration in a meeting with Satan in a cave.
And from Jewish fables and folklore that Mohammed's multilingual Jewish secretary shared with him out of a collection of Jewish folk tales called "Midrash Rabbah" (ie. Mohammed's stories of Abraham).
And from regular meetings that he had with a "Christian" named Jabr who gave Mohammed so much of his material just prior to his "revelations" that Jabr's local nickname became "holy spirit".
Just because Mohammed was too mentally challenged to learn how to read, doesn't mean he was deaf.

Peter · « **Reply #65 on:** June 03, 2009, 05:27:15 PM »

PeteWaldo (1 hour ago)

One-day-old Jesus speaking was plagiarized from and Egyptian apocryphal fable titled "First Gospel of the infnacy of Jesus":
"...Jesus spake even when he was in the cradle, and said: 'Mary, I am Jesus the son of God. That word which thou didst bring forth according to the declaration of the angel..."

Sura 19:29 But she pointed to the babe. They said: "How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?" 30 He said: "I am indeed a servant of Allah: He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet;

Peter · « **Reply #66 on:** June 03, 2009, 05:27:43 PM »

np33123 (1 hour ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0cDHljQbMQ&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyVJl3ki8ww&feature=channel

Peter · « **Reply #67 on:** June 03, 2009, 05:30:38 PM »

PeteWaldo (3 seconds ago)

Only impressive to the gullible.

Mar 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if [it were] possible, even the elect.

Peter · « **Reply #68 on:** June 08, 2009, 03:55:35 PM »

np33123 (1 day ago)

1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?

DO WE MUSLIMS DENY THAT JESUS IS THE CHRIST ( MESSIAH ) ???

Peter · « **Reply #69 on:** June 08, 2009, 03:56:04 PM »

PeteWaldo (1 day ago)

1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?

DO WE MUSLIMS DENY THAT JESUS IS THE CHRIST ( MESSIAH ) ???

I thought you told me you were familiar with the Gospels? Isn't it ironic that through your ignorance you quoted from the very verses that MOST CONDEMN Mohammedans?

1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH? NOT THE FATHER:...

Peter · « **Reply #70 on:** June 08, 2009, 03:56:31 PM »

np33123 (1 day ago)

BUT THE JEWS DO IT THAT IS RIGHT !!!?

Peter · « **Reply #71 on:** June 08, 2009, 03:57:05 PM »

PeteWaldo (1 day ago)

"BUT THE JEWS DO IT THAT IS RIGHT !!!?"

Jews and Christians have followed God for 3500 years through His Word.
The reason that some Jews have still not recognized that Jesus is their Messiah, is their promised Son, is because God Himself blinded some Jews:

Rom 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

You, my friend, are a GENTILE that will stand in judgment before Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the very one whom you deny as the most important fundamental of Mohammed's religion. You will be WITHOUT EXCUSE, as you have been shown the truth, but instead? choose to follow the STAND-ALONE religion of A SINGLE 7th century false prophet that WAS and taught the EXACT OPPOSITE.

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

Peter · « **Reply #72 on:** June 08, 2009, 03:57:24 PM »

PeteWaldo (1 day ago)

Here's why you love that lie:

2Thes 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall destroy...9 [EVEN HIM], WHOSE COMING IS AFTER THE WORKING OF SATAN with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because THEY RECEIVED NOT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, THAT THEY SHOULD BELIEVE A LIE: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth...

Because you received not the love of the truth.

Peter · « **Reply #73 on:** June 08, 2009, 03:58:05 PM »

np33123 (19 hours ago)

Scripture: Matthew 7:21-29
........... 21 "Not every one who says to me, `Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. ( ALL MUSLIMS ARE DOING THE WILL OF YHWH ) 22 On that day many will say to me, `Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?' 23 And then will I declare to them, `I never knew you; depart from me, you evildoers.' ( WHAT DO YOU THINK PETEWALDO TO WHOM JESUS CHRIST SAID THAT ? TO THE MUSLIMS ??? ABSOLUTELY NO !!! JESUS SAID THAT FOR THOSE LIKE YOU THE FALSE CHRISTIANS WHO WRONGLY UNDERSTAND HIS TEACHINGS !!! 24 "Every one then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house upon the rock; 25 and the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat upon that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock..............................

Peter · « **Reply #74 on:** June 08, 2009, 03:58:29 PM »

PeteWaldo (18 hours ago)

"Scripture: Matthew 7:21-29
........... 21 "Not every one who says to me, `Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. ( ALL MUSLIMS ARE DOING THE WILL OF YHWH )"

That's ridiculous! You don't even observe the Sabbath!!!
That verse says MY FATHER. That's because Jesus is THE Son of God. The very one you deny.
23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:...
You'll be standing before Jesus Christ your judge saying "Lord, lord...." even though you deny that Jesus Christ is Lord already. You will receive your just reward.

"WHAT DO YOU THINK PETEWALDO TO WHOM JESUS CHRIST SAID THAT ? TO THE MUSLIMS ??? ABSOLUTELY NO? !!! JESUS SAID THAT FOR THOSE LIKE YOU THE FALSE CHRISTIANS WHO WRONGLY UNDERSTAND HIS TEACHINGS !!!"

I believe it could regard some Christian posers, and those deluded into believing themselves to be Christians, but certainly not to the extent that it applies to Muslim ANTICHRISTS.

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