err (23 hours ago)
"...THE SCRIPTURE WHICH HE SENT TO THOSE BEFORE (HIM). ANY WHO DENIETH Allah, His angels, HIS BOOKS, HIS MESSENGERS..."
We believe in ALL books which were sent to ALL messengers. But we believe that the original scripture are not preserved uncorrupted. The scripture of the present are not authentic for muslims. You should know the basics of islam, before debating it.
err (23 hours ago)
We agree, that he preached the word of god (Evangelium) etc. So it is NOT the exact opposite, Just in one point a difference. The only reason for you sticking on this point is, you can not imagine to live without the unconditional salvation of Isa a.s.
Why do Christian make the exact opposite of what is in the bible? They are accepting interest against the teaching of God!!!
References: Exodus 22,25; Levitikus 25,35-38; Deuteronomium 23,20-21; Ezechiel 18,5-17; Ezechiel 22,12; Psalm 15,5
PeteWaldo (22 hours ago)
Christianity teaches unconditional salvation?
Mar 6:12 And they went out, and preached that men should repent.
Luk 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Where do you get this stupid stuff? Proven liars like Ahmed Deedat?
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The bible IS ABOUT Jesus crucifixion, death and resurrection. THAT IS WHAT CHRISTIANITY IS.
That's what makes Mohammedanism the EXACT OPPOSITE. The ONLY anti-another-religion, religion.
ANTICHRIST.
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err (22 hours ago)
"The bible IS ABOUT Jesus crucifixion, death and resurrection. THAT IS WHAT CHRISTIANITY IS.
That's what makes Mohammedanism the EXACT OPPOSITE."
Well ... no. The bible is not ALL about crucifixion. And Islam is not ALL about denying crucifixion.
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Don't be silly. The Old Testament is about the coming Messiah. Even the OT prophesied His crucifixion:
Psalms 22:16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
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And the coming Son of God:
Psalms 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art] my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Centuries before the Son of God was made manifest.
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PeteWaldo (20 hours ago)
Are you saying you believe that the bible was corrupted AFTER the 7th century when your "Allah" gave you that advice, and told the people of the book to believe in what God revealed through the Gospel?
We have 5300 partial or complete manuscripts that were penned prior to 300 AD in every known language that were read all over the known world.
Are you saying that even 400 years after that men went back and added the crucifixion? Not only to the bible but also to the secular historical record?
error (11 hours ago)
1. You are saying, Christianity is just all about crucifixion and Isa a.s. beeing son of God.
2. Recording to Scripture before the Quran. We believe that all prophets of God had a message of God. We believe in the Gospel (Message) of Isa a.s. and also the message of all other Prophets. BUT these scriptures in our present are not original in the muslim pov!
There is nothing contradicting with that. I just believe in the original Gospel of Isa a.s. Not the Gospel of Methew, Lukas...
PeteWaldo (9 hours ago)
1. That's exactly right. ALL Christians for 2000 years, regardless the denomination, believe we are saved by the shed blood of the Son of God, because that is EXACTLY the way God revealed Himself through His Word.
2. You blaspheme ALL the prophets and apostles who brought us the Gospel. To you they are NECESSARILY LIARS.
Are you suggesting that somehow all the bibles and historical record was changed AFTER the 7th century?
Yet you have to believe that or your "Allah" IS A LIAR in Sura 5:68.
err (7 hours ago)
To the second Point. No I didn't said that. You are putting words in my mouth. Read my comment again. You just don't want to understand my comment the right way. If you would be the efforts worth, I would show you the meaning of this verse from the Tafsir.
PeteWaldo (17 seconds ago)
Then why not join me in a venue where we can quote each other, and post live links, and generally hold each other accountable rather than this YouTube 500 character drive-by format so appreciated by liars and others who don't want to revisit what they said.
It will be a VAST improvement.
Create any login you want. You don't have to compromise your YouTube ID.
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