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I generally avoid division within the body of Christ, but saw no risk of that in doing the video at the following link, particularly having come to the realization that perhaps we are not doing enough to expose false teaching, which is in part why it becomes evermore rampant.

Many wishful Muslims have uploaded this video on the YouTube channels, of a pseudo-Christian that deceives Muslims, with her interfaith pluralism.

Do a YouTube search like - American Christian defends Islam - to find 8 uploads of her video in just the first two pages of results. Expect that number to expand as the number of those duped by her increase.

As a result I thought it important to take this most egregious example of apostasy in the "church" today, to task, in the following video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j--cMsRzg4s

It is a hopeful sign that so many Muslims are so insecure about their beliefs that they are ever searching for anything that may provide temporary comfort.

Was this woman just a dupe of Islamist taqiyyah, or did she intentionally leave out the most important part of the verses she quoted from the Quran, let alone leave out the very next verse:

Quran 5:32 On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land. 33 The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;

Version to copy and paste on YouTube videos: Quran 5:32.....if any one slew a person - UNLESS IT BE FOR murder or for SPREADING MISCHIEF IN THE LAND - it would be as if he slew the whole people.....33 THE PUNISHMENT of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main FOR MISCHIEF THROUGH THE LAND is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land:

"Mischief" being rejecting Islam, speaking honestly about Muhammad as revealed through their own books, or beginning a life in Jesus Christ, which are all punishable to this day by the death penalty for "apostasy" and "blasphemy", in Iran, Pakistan, Somalia, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Qatar, Yemen, and Mauritania to name a few. Many Islamic slave states also impose the death penalty for "blasphemy":
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/muslim_persecution_of_christians.htm#death_penalty_apostasy

http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/blasphemy_laws.htm#death_penalty_blasphemy

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Re: Pseudo-Christian Deceives Muslims With Interfaith Pluralism
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2013, 07:24:31 AM »
Entertaining beginning in this intro video to this subject of apostasy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWXAM_F0ztw

Ii is unnecessary to do a video on Rick Warren (Council on Foreign Relations member) as he is pretty well covered. Viewing the following video will reveal lots more videos on Rick Warren in the right sidebar. Even Jack Van Impe gets into dissecting Rick Warren:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOMFHej1KVk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mGIEZApp5w

Jack cancelled his contract with TBN when they prevented him from running an ad that named Rick Warren.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrj3tYXxl9E

"The emerging church" "contemplative prayer" etc.
http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=2535
More on Calvary Chapel. I focus here because this was a church I knew and at which I was born again.
http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=11129


"In his book the dark side of the purpose driven church, Rev Noah W. Hutchings says there are several things that Rick Warren claims needs to be done to build a great church today:

1.  Change the music to a contemporary rock style.

2.  Remove all hymn books and eliminate the choir as well.

3.  Change Sunday evening services and Wednesday prayer meetings or even eliminate them.

4.  The word church can often be removed and the church may be called a campus. Denominational names may also be removed.

5.  Crosses and other traditional symbols may be removed from both inside and outside of the church buildings. The pulpit may also be removed.

6.  Eliminate words like the unsaved, saved, sin, heaven and hell, use rather the churched and the unchurched as distinctions."

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You said you had trouble finding the preacher of this sermon...

Here she is:

http://www.religionandtheology.org/dealing_with_islamophobia.html

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You said you had trouble finding the preacher of this sermon...

Here she is:

http://www.religionandtheology.org/dealing_with_islamophobia.html

Thank you so much for that! On a quick peak at "history" it mentions "affiliated with two denominations, the United Church of Christ and the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)."

So maybe it isn't such a surprise, since the United Church of Christ's anti-Zionism seems to drive them into the arms of the enemy of all mankind.

I posted the source on that YouTube to the person that had asked.

I also commented on her video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTUPZDln-NY

" You don't suppose born again Christian aversion to Islam could be because the false prophet Muhammad proclaimed the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel, do you?
Surah 4:15 7 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus.....but they killed him not, nor crucified him.....for of a surety they killed him not:-
Or because they deny and blaspheme the Son of God, as another article of their faith in Muhammad alone, and in spite of the hundreds of verses in scripture that proclaim the Father and His Son,:
Surah 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!
Can't she at least quote the Quran honestly rather than parroting Islamic taqiyyah (or worse)?
Quran 5:32 .....if any one slew a person - UNLESS IT BE FOR murder or for SPREADING MISCHIEF IN THE LAND - it would be as if he slew the whole people.....33 THE PUNISHMENT of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main FOR MISCHIEF THROUGH THE LAND is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land:"


http://fcchurch.com/clergy/
Deborah Countiss Lindsay
Minister of Spiritual Care

Education: Trinity Lutheran Seminary, MDiv; Ohio State University, BA in Journalism; additional study at Yale Divinity School. Deborah is a trained Healthy Congregationsâ„¢ facilitator.
Primary responsibilities: Pastoral care and calling; Preach, teach, and liturgize as needed. Contact: Rev. Lindsay:

Trained" "Healthy Congregations" "facilitator". How's that for irony!

http://healthycongregations.com/what-is-healthy-congregations
"What is Healthy Congregations?
   
What’s it all about?  Healthy Congregations is an ecumenical and interfaith organization that takes seriously the times that we live in and the challenges of thinking more clearly about families, congregations, and leadership.
Healthy Congregations, Inc. offers resources and training that are based on a view of life that looks at communities as living systems that incorporate thinking, feeling, responsibility, and purpose."

So much for being based on scripture. Hmmm  based on "feeling" kinda says it all.....

Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?