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Egypt Cures AIDS and Hepatitis C?
« on: February 26, 2014, 02:26:10 PM »
Occasionally up here on this forum we will be inundated by how much Islam has contributed to the world through science and justice...

As it moves to consolidate power, [Egyptian] army claims to have developed device that defeats deadly virus… with no side effects

http://www.timesofisrael.com/aids-cured-says-egypts-military/

The general mentions Allah several times in the clip.  Wikipedia mentions that he adheres to Sunni Islam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdel_Fattah_el-Sisi#Personal_life)

We'll see where this goes.

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Re: Egypt Cures AIDS and Hepatitis C?
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2014, 02:59:07 PM »
Occasionally up here on this forum we will be inundated by how much Islam has contributed to the world through science and justice...

As it moves to consolidate power, [Egyptian] army claims to have developed device that defeats deadly virus… with no side effects

http://www.timesofisrael.com/aids-cured-says-egypts-military/

The general mentions Allah several times in the clip.  Wikipedia mentions that he adheres to Sunni Islam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdel_Fattah_el-Sisi#Personal_life)

We'll see where this goes.

Perhaps an inappropriate thread to post this on, since about all Islam brought was 1400 years of murder, misery, mayhem and darkness, wherever Islam has reigned. Even were it true it wouldn't change history.

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Re: Egypt Cures AIDS and Hepatitis C?
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2014, 04:04:09 PM »
Perhaps an inappropriate thread to post this on...

Move it where you think appropriate.  I won't be offended.

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Re: Egypt Cures AIDS and Hepatitis C?
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2014, 07:10:46 PM »
Maybe we should start a new fantasy section! :D
Oh wait, we already have one, it's the Islam section.

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Re: Egypt Cures AIDS and Hepatitis C?
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2014, 08:45:29 PM »
Maybe we should start a new fantasy section! :D
Oh wait, we already have one, it's the Islam section.

That is exactly what I was thinking when I posted it in the other thread.  If it turns out to be a farce (like the Iranian fighter jet)... so sad.

... it looks like the proof may already be on the way

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/95270/Egypt/Politics-/Claims-of-cure-for-HIV,-Hepatitis-C-are-a-scandal-.aspx

Claims by the Egyptian army that it has found a cure for Hepatitis C and HIV are a "scientific scandal for Egypt," the president's scientific advisor has said.
The devices are unconvincing and appear to have no clear scientific basis, Essam Heggy told Al-Watan newspaper on Tuesday.

Heggy, who is currently on a visit to the US, said he has papers proving the devices are ineffective and he will present them to the president when he returns to Egypt next week.

At a press conference on Saturday, army spokesperson Colonel Ahmed Ali said: “The armed forces have achieved a scientific breakthrough by inventing devices to diagnose and treat Hepatitis C and HIV without taking a blood sample from the patient, which gets immediate results at a low cost."

Heggy said President Adly Mansour and Defence Minister Abdel-Fattah El-Sissi - who attended the press conference - did not know the details of the announcement in advance and were "surprised" by what they heard.

Heggy said he was not consulted about the announcement and expressed regret that Egyptian specialists in Hepatitis C and HIV had not been consulted beforehand.

"An issue this sensitive, in my personal opinion, could hurt the image of the state," Heggy said, adding that foreign newspapers could utilise the announcement to harm Egypt's image internationally.

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Re: Egypt Cures AIDS and Hepatitis C?
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2014, 04:14:07 AM »
"An issue this sensitive, in my personal opinion, could hurt the image of the state," Heggy said, adding that foreign newspapers could utilise the announcement to harm Egypt's image internationally.

I don't think there's any risk of making that worse.
Imagine, in what was just 50 or so years ago, a leading and very cosmopolitan country.
It got Islamized.

"Egypt has one of the highest rates of Hepatitis C infections in the world. The number of patients reached 8 million in 2008, according to health ministry figures, or nearly 10 percent of the population. In some parts of Upper Egypt and the Nile Delta infection rates reach 20 percent."

That paragraph is more in line with the "golden age" of Islam.

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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2014, 10:24:49 AM »
"An issue this sensitive, in my personal opinion, could hurt the image of the state," Heggy said, adding that foreign newspapers could utilise the announcement to harm Egypt's image internationally.

I don't think there's any risk of making that worse.
Imagine, in what was just 50 or so years ago, a leading and very cosmopolitan country.
It got Islamized.

"Egypt has one of the highest rates of Hepatitis C infections in the world. The number of patients reached 8 million in 2008, according to health ministry figures, or nearly 10 percent of the population. In some parts of Upper Egypt and the Nile Delta infection rates reach 20 percent."

That paragraph is more in line with the "golden age" of Islam.

From the CDC website:

How is Hepatitis C spread?
Hepatitis C is usually spread when blood from a person infected with the Hepatitis C virus enters the body of someone who is not infected. Today, most people become infected with the Hepatitis C virus by sharing needles or other equipment to inject drugs. Before 1992, when widespread screening of the blood supply began in the United States, Hepatitis C was also commonly spread through blood transfusions and organ transplants.
People can become infected with the Hepatitis C virus during such activities as
  • Sharing needles, syringes, or other equipment to inject drugs
  • Needlestick injuries in health care settings
  • Being born to a mother who has Hepatitis C
Less commonly, a person can also get Hepatitis C virus infection through
  • Sharing personal care items that may have come in contact with another person’s blood, such as razors or toothbrushes
  • Having sexual contact with a person infected with the Hepatitis C virus

Here is a really interesting website.  If you click the "next" button, it cycles through various diseases (I've included the link for Hep C)

http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/hepatitis-c/by-country/

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Re: Egypt Cures AIDS and Hepatitis C?
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2014, 01:12:10 PM »
Interesting. Particularly the Russian drinking thing, confirming what my wife recently read and told me about.

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Re: Egypt Cures AIDS and Hepatitis C?
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2014, 02:19:42 PM »
Maybe we should drink camel urine.  That seems to solve all problems! :o

If that don't work, we need to find a fly to put in our drinks that will cure all diseases! ;D

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Re: Egypt Cures AIDS and Hepatitis C?
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2014, 07:26:51 PM »
Or just spit on your left side three times!