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[Peter]

[[[did you know what is christ mean...
did yu know... that islam is existing ..before]]]

The term "Islam" means submission. To God.
God's people have been submitted to Him for 3500 years in two covenants detailed in the 1600 year record of God's Holy Word through ALL of the prophets and apostles.

Mohammedans have been deceived into believing themselves submitted to God when they are submitted to satan through the spirit of antichrist.

[[[look at the history of mohammed]]]

Indeed! Let's explore this 7th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife taking, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic coward and thief together.

If a single characterization above is unsupported by YOUR OWN BOOKS please advise.

A man, and his 23 year record are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament. The Jesus that even Mohammedans believe to be sinless.

http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=336.0

Take Sina's $50,000 challenge:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm

[[[prophet mohammed in youtube..
or some querry
visit www.thedeenshow.com]]]

If you aren't a coward in the mold of your false prophet why not come and defend his STAND-ALONE 7th century religion in the forum?

http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php

[[[you think your information is logical...]]]

If you visit the above sites you will quickly see how you are suggesting that the people that have followed God for 3500 years, in 2 covenants, through ALL of the prophets and apostles in His 1600 year record, somehow got it wrong.

While those that follow the STAND-ALONE 23 year record of A SINGLE 7th century reprobate that WAS and taught the EXACT OPPOSITE of God's record got it right. Did you ever stop to think about how peculiar that is?
More importantly did you ever stop to think about the eternal consequences of it?

1Jo 5:10 He that BELIEVETH ON THE SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because HE BELIEVED NOT THE RECORD that God gave OF HIS SON.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDslsWDzPIc

[Peter]

[[[A man, and his 23 year record are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament. The Jesus that even Mohammedans believe to be sinless

haha your so funny... you can check the record of mohhamd...
when he is a baby,,, god make a miracle of him...
what is that miracle... the goat that was not give a milk...
when mohammed came to their family who adopted him they are suprrise when the goat give milk like a running foset....]]]

What would any of that have to do with your following a COMMON THIEF?
You follow a MURDERING, FORNICATING THIEF.

[[[and beside... you can look at the history.. how the crhistian scholar admited the they distored that falsehood of mohammed..]]]

That's preposterously foolish. MOHAMMED'S OWN PHONY BOOK SHOWS HE WAS A THIEF.
Sura 8 titled "Spoils of War - Booty" details Mohammed's 1/5 share of all of the property stolen from others.

MOHAMMED WAS JUST LIKE A MAFIA BOSS.

[[[ and they admited that and they converted to islam.. because they knew about it...]]]

But this is pure ignorance. It's impossible for a Christian to convert to the phony religion of the false prophet:

Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and FALSE PROPHETS, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

You see? God's elect cannot be deceived. Only those fools that had deluded themselves into believing themselves to be Christian.

[[[and look to the letter of to the kings... of roman..

your so funny its that all you have... the opposite.. ]]]

Mohammed WAS and taught THE EXACT OPPOSITE. Look at how they compare:
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam_the_opposite.htm

[[[dudes wake up..]]]

Wake up indeed!
You hold the preposterous notion that, God's people have followed Him for 3500 years, in 2 covenants, through ALL of the prophets and apostles in His 1600 year record.

Then hundreds of years after that record is closed God sends A SINGLE 7th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife taking, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic coward and thief, to recite a 23 year record that is THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament.
The Jesus that even Mohammedans believe to be sinless.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam_the_opposite.htm

[[[lets bring it in a closer look in the history..]]]

Try the attached video.

[[[ how mohammed chossen by god..]]]

THE false prophet Mohammed was chosen by Satan. Even Mohammed knew it was jinn that met him in that cave.

Indeed! Let's explore this 7th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife taking, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic coward and thief together

[[[will that is your understanding.. but what you see in mohammed is the opposite of it..]]]

I described what Mohammed was:

7th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife taking, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic coward and thief.
A man, and his 23 year record are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament.

Mohammed is burning in hell. Here's why:

1Cr 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Mohammed fornicated with concubines thereby adultering against his wives, he was a thief, covetous, reviler, and extortioner.

Those who follow THE false prophet through the Islamic empire "beast" will wind up here:

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where THE BEAST and THE FALSE PROPHET [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

[[[ your so funny.... open your heart and your mind god give us wisdom to know the truth...]]]

Quit being such a coward and defend Mohammed's phony 7th century in the light of day instead of this dark alley of personal messaging so beloved by liars and deceivers.

If you want any more messages answered you will have to move there. I already started a thread for you. But you won't join me will you? Because Mohammedanism is nothing more than lies and blasphemy against the one true God that His people, the Jews and Christians have worshiped for 3500 years.

If you aren't a phony coward like your false prophet Mohammed come join me

http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=442.0

[Peter]

Lies of the Bible..

1 John 5:7 (New King James Version)
For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one..

1 John 5:7 (New International Reader's Version)
There are three that give witness? about Jesus

(The Message)
the Spirit, the Baptism, the Crucifixion. And the three in perfect agreement

what you said . it the reflection of your knowledge...

mohammed have mention many time they warn us muslim be carefull of small devils that they resident on the tip of your nose... wash your face so that satan will go away remember the god always beside you... always...

if you want to know the last messege of prophet mohammed peace be upon him.. just goto youtube and search last sermon of prophet mohammed
how he adress his sermon to all humankind and god is his witness..



How does choice of words explain...
Protestant bible contains 66 books
Catholic bible contains 73 books
Orthodox bible contains 78 books
They can't even agree on how many BOOKS are in the bible.

Quran has 114 chapters, 19 x 6
Quran has 6346 verses, 19 x 334
6+3+4+6 = 19, 19 x 1
Why do? Christians continuously lie?

[Peter]

Lies of the Bible..

1 John 5:7 (New King James Version)
For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one..

1 John 5:7 (New International Reader's Version)
There are three that give witness? about Jesus

(The Message)
the Spirit, the Baptism, the Crucifixion. And the three in perfect agreement

what you said . it the reflection of your knowledge...

What I say will always be a reflection of my knowledge just as you and yours.
You can choose faulty bible versions if you like. You can try to see Christianity through some cult like Jehova's Witness or Christian Science, but you will not see.
You can only know God through His Word which I am sure you have never even read, in spite of Mohammed telling you to believe in the scriptures that came before Mohammed:

Sura 4:136 O ye who believe! BELIEVE IN Allah and His Messenger, and the scripture which He hath sent to His Messenger and THE SCRIPTURE WHICH HE SENT TO THOSE BEFORE (HIM). ANY WHO DENIETH Allah, His angels, HIS BOOKS, HIS MESSENGERS, and the Day of Judgment, HATH GONE FAR, FAR ASTRAY.

Here is an intro to the Gospels using the same King James version that Ahmed Deedat used to quote from:
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/

mohammed have mention many time they warn us muslim be carefull of small devils that they resident on the tip of your nose...

Now look whose funny!!!!!
You are looking in the wrong place my friend. You have to search your heart to find satan because you are filled with the spirit of antichrist.

wash your face so that satan will go away

Doesn't it make you feel foolish to think that all you have to do is wash your face and satan will go away?
You have to get your heart washed, my friend, with the blood of the Lamb.

Eze 11:19 And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:

remember the god always beside you... always...

if you want to know the last messege of prophet mohammed peace be upon him..

Surely you can see how foolish it is to think that God would have his people follow Him for 3500 years, in 2 covenants, through ALL of the prophets and apostles in His 1600 year record. Then hundreds of years after that record is closed God sends A SINGLE 7th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife taking, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic coward and thief, to recite a 23 year record that is THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament.
http://petewaldo.com/islam_is_the_opposite.htm

just goto youtube and search last sermon of prophet mohammed
how he adress his sermon to all humankind and god is his witness..

Mohammed was an antichrist, just as are his followers. His words are the words of Satan, the jealous fallen angel that hates Jesus.

How does choice of words explain...
Protestant bible contains 66 books
Catholic bible contains 73 books
Orthodox bible contains 78 books
They can't even agree on how many BOOKS are in the bible.

Those extra books were added in the middle ages in an anti-reformation effort.
The Apocrypha of which you speak are HEBREW books that the Jews never consider inspired and so never added them to the Torah.
Internat evidence in those books demonstrate that they weren't inspired.
If they had been inspired why did the Roman church wait a thousand years to include them?

Please visit the Roman church section of the forum for more on that false church:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=7.0

Quran has 114 chapters, 19 x 6
Quran has 6346 verses, 19 x 334
6+3+4+6 = 19, 19 x 1

But then Shiites contend that about 25% of the Quran was thrown out when Uthman "edited" it.

But Mohammed was saying he knew he would be viewed as a forger BECAUSE of the EXTENSIVE ABROGATION over just the 23 year record of his self-serving recitations:

Quran 2:106 None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?

Would be comical if not so tragic.
Not abrogated.... just.... substituted!!!.... for something.... better!!!!..... or... er... similar!!!

He even knew how those that weren't brainwashed in the Mohammedan spirit of antichrist would perceive his phony screwed up book:

Surah 16:101 When We substitute one revelation for another, and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages), they say, "Thou art but a forger": but most of them understand not.

http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=116.0

Why do? Christians continuously lie?

Christians don't lie my friend.
Satan is the father of lies who inspired the false prophet Mohammed.

[Peter]

"Lies of the Bible.. "

So are you a man or a mouse? Just another coward like your false prophet Mohammed?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG1MiLqH0jc
I am not going to even read any more of your posts until you act like a man and come out of this dark alley and into the light of day.
Here is your reply for this PM:

http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=442.msg1737#msg1737

[Peter]

Art PMd my brotherjw channel on the same day.

[[Mr. Deedat is consider the messenger of ALLAH he speak of the truth .....]]]

You are lucky enough to come to my second channel art. I am both petewaldo and brotherjw

I will ignore all PMs after this one. If you want me to read anything post it in the forum under the thread that is devoted to you:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=442.0

(though I will be unavailable for a few days so my response may be delayed a little)

AHMED DEEDAT IS A PROVEN LIAR AND DECEIVER as the attached video PROVES.

Watch the video and then you tell me just who's the liar.

[[[.....he speak of wisdom what allah have given to him to inform us ....]]]

He peddled lies and deception to you and you bought into it hook, line and sinker.

[[[.....the real truth of faith.. He is a very brilliant person full of wisdom..]]]

Ahmed Deedat was an anthcirhst, just like his false prophet Mohammed.

[[[ I admire mr. deedat so much.. he is the example of a true muslim....]]]

Exactly. A lying deceiver. A purveyor of taqiyyah.

[[[.... a true biliever of one god ,, we will meet you again mr. deedat regards to my creature our god our father our creatures,, creature of noah abraham moses jesus and mohammed peace be upon them all... we will see you again.. lead us always.. your mission is succesfull you have given us light and guidance that is why god sent you on this world to have a mission in life.. salaam]]]

Then take your mission out of this dark alley of personal messaging and into the light of the public eye. I will not read any more personal messages from you. If there is something you want me to read you have to post it in the forum here:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=442.0

Watch the video and show where I am wrong about Deedat being a proven liar and deceiver. This will be the first question you will have to answer to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDslsWDzPIc

[Peter]

I left town for a little bit and decided to answer a few more PMs rather than leaving him hanging out to dry.

[Peter]

[[[did you know what is christ mean...
did yu know... that islam is existing ..before]]]

The term "Islam" means submission. To God.
God's people have been submitted to Him for 3500 years in two covenants detailed in the 1600 year record of God's Holy Word through ALL of the prophets and apostels.

Mohammedans have been deceived into believing themselves submitted to God when they are submitted to satan through the spirit of antichrist.

[[[look at the history of mohammed]]]

Indeed! Let's explore this 7th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife taking, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic coward and thief together.

If a single characterization above is unsupported by YOUR OWN BOOKS please advise.

A man, and his 23 year record are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament. The Jesus that even Mohammedans believe to be sinless.

http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=336.0

Take Sina's $50,000 challenge:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm

[[[prophet mohammed in youtube..
or some querry
visit www.thedeenshow.com]]]

If you aren't a coward in the mold of your false prophet why not come and defend his STAND-ALONE 7th century religion in the forum?

http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php

[[[you think your information is logical...]]]

If you visit the above sites you will quickly see how you are suggesting that the people that have followed God for 3500 years, in 2 covenants, through ALL of the prophets and apostles in His 1600 year record, somehow got it wrong.

While those that follow the STAND-ALONE 23 year record of A SINGLE 7th century reprobate that WAS and taught the EXACT OPPOSITE of God's record got it right. Did you ever stop to think about how peculiar that is?
More importantly did you ever stop to think about the eternal consequences of it?

1Jo 5:10 He that BELIEVETH ON THE SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because HE BELIEVED NOT THE RECORD that God gave OF HIS SON.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDslsWDzPIc

[Peter]

[[[A man, and his 23 year record are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament. The Jesus that even Mohammedans believe to be sinless

haha your so funny... you can check the record of mohhamd...
when he is a baby,,, god make a miracle of him...
what is that miracle... the goat that was not give a milk...
when mohammed came to their family who adopted him they are suprrise when the goat give milk like a running foset....]]]

What would any of that have to do with your following a COMMON THIEF?
You follow a MURDERING, FORNICATING THIEF.

[[[and beside... you can look at the history.. how the crhistian scholar admited the they distored that falsehood of mohammed..]]]

That's preposterously foolish. MOHAMMED'S OWN PHONY BOOK SHOWS HE WAS A THIEF.
Sura 8 titled "Spoils of War - Booty" details Mohammed's 1/5 share of all of the property stolen from others.

MOHAMMED WAS JUST LIKE A MAFIA BOSS.

[[[ and they admited that and they converted to islam.. because they knew about it...]]]

But this is pure ignorance. It's impossible for a Christian to convert to the phony religion of the false prophet:

Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and FALSE PROPHETS, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

You see? God's elect cannot be deceived. Only those fools that had deluded themselves into believing themselves to be Christian.

[[[and look to the letter of to the kings... of roman..

your so funny its that all you have... the opposite.. ]]]

Mohammed WAS and taught THE EXACT OPPOSITE. Look at how they compare:
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam_the_opposite.htm

[[[dudes wake up..]]]

Wake up indeed!
You hold the preposterous notion that, God's people have followed Him for 3500 years, in 2 covenants, through ALL of the prophets and apostles in His 1600 year record.

Then hundreds of years after that record is closed God sends A SINGLE 7th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife taking, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic coward and thief, to recite a 23 year record that is THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament.
The Jesus that even Mohammedans believe to be sinless.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam_the_opposite.htm

[[[lets bring it in a closer look in the history..]]]

Try the attached video.

[[[ how mohammed chossen by god..]]]

THE false prophet Mohammed was chosen by Satan. Even Mohammed knew it was jinn that met him in that cave.

Indeed! Let's explore this 7th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife taking, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic coward and thief together

[[[will that is your understanding.. but what you see in mohammed is the opposite of it..]]]

I described what Mohammed was:

7th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife taking, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic coward and thief.
A man, and his 23 year record are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament.

Mohammed is burning in hell. Here's why:

1Cr 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Mohammed fornicated with concubines thereby adultering against his wives, he was a thief, covetous, reviler, and extortioner.

Those who follow THE false prophet through the Islamic empire "beast" will wind up here:

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where THE BEAST and THE FALSE PROPHET [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

[[[ your so funny.... open your heart and your mind god give us wisdom to know the truth...]]]

Quit being such a coward and defend Mohammed's phony 7th century in the light of day instead of this dark alley of personal messaging so beloved by liars and deceivers.

If you want any more messages answered you will have to move there. I already started a thread for you. But you won't join me will you? Because Mohammedanism is nothing more than lies and blasphemy against the one true God that His people, the Jews and Christians have worshiped for 3500 years.

If you aren't a phony coward like your false prophet Mohammed come join me

http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=442.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sk3fKY9PhY

[Peter]

[[[[[[and beside... you can look at the history.. how the crhistian scholar admited that they distored that prophethood of mohammed..]]]

"That's preposterously foolish. MOHAMMED'S OWN PHONY BOOK SHOWS HE WAS A THIEF.
Sura 8 titled "Spoils of War - Booty" details Mohammed's 1/5 share of all of the property stolen from others"

will my brother,,, open your eyes,, you only know the dark side of mohammed...]]]

Did you ever wonder how it is that a true prophet of God could have a "dark side"?
I describe Mohammed as a pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife taking, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic coward and thief ACCORDING TO YOUR OWN BOOKS.

Others are much less kind than I. I described him thus to an imam and for some reason he pretends this isn't true. But it is your own books that bequeath this to us:

The rape pillage and plunder of the First Islamic Jihad that stole the property of others all the way up to Poitiers France has nothing to do with masons or Zionism my friend. You follow A COMMON THIEF who cut himself in for 1/5 of the stolen property, just like a Mafia Don.
Sura 8:41 And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Messenger...
I wonder if Allah ever showed up to collect his share of Mohammeds? 1/5?

Sura 8:69 But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good: but fear Allah: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
There you go! Enjoy the property you stole from others through imperialistic conquest!

Let's look at sex slave pimping:

Sura 24:33:...But force not? your maids to prostitution WHEN they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),

So WHEN they dont want to preserve their chastity, then pimp em out and make some gain!
And even if you force them into prostitution Allah will forgive anyway!
What a convenient god!

What about child doing?
Sunan Nasai Bk of Marriage, No 3256 - A'ishah said: The Apostle of Allah peace be upon him married me when I was six and had sexual intercourse with me when? I was nine and I was playing with dolls.
Aisha played with dolls while Mohammed was present. - Sahih Muslim vol.4 book 29 no.5981 p.1299

What about fornicating with concubines?
Safiya Bint Huyway - Rayhana Bint Zayd -
He had at least 2 children that were the fruit of fornicating with concubines.
"Maria the Copt from Egypt, was another concubine of Mohammed.? She bore? him a son, Ibrahim, who died in infancy."

It goes on and on my friend.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=336.msg1560#msg1560
And you actually believe that God would send an illiterate reprobate like that to nullify the 1600 year record He gave us through ALL of the prophets and apostles that God's people have followed for 3500 years.

Just look at Mohammed's preposterous chicken and wine serving bordello in the sky that he promised his fellow reprobates:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEfKpgiYgHY

[Peter]

[[[Mr.Deedat was the greatest islamic debator of all time...]]

But you can see as I prove in the attached video that he was nothing more than a small time antichrist lying deceiver.

You are following him to hell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDslsWDzPIc

[Peter]

You don't understand what antichrist is, along with much of the church.
Please tell me which of the 4 verses that contain the term, detailed in the attached video, indicate an individual.

But this one perfectly pegs you as an antichrist, my friend:

1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:

What happens to antichrists?

Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM.

The wrath of God falls on antichrists, particularly that follow THE false prophet Mohammed:

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where THE BEAST and THE FALSE PROPHET [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

For ever is a very long time, my friend.
My niece died at 22 years old suddenly of mitrol valve prolapse. Just like the basket ball player did. Her mother simply found her flat on her bedroom floor in the middle of the afternoon.
She was a gentle and fierce Christian, so her death was more of a celebration.
You could die in the next moment my friend.
What will an antichrist like you tell our judge?

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

God's people have follow Him for 3500 years, in 2 covenants, through ALL of the prophets and apostles in His 1600 year record. Surely you can see how preposterous it is to suggest that hundreds of years after that record closed, God would send A SINGLE 7th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife taking, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic coward and thief.
A man, and his 23 year record, as THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament.
The Jesus that even Mohammedans believe to be sinless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w71CtxLdjio

[Peter]

Deedat was a lying deceiver.
He fooled you with a phony bible verse of his own creation, as I prove in the attached video, yet you continue to believe he was great when he was nothing more than an antichrist liar.

The reason you love lies and hate truth is because you are filled with the spirit of antichrist. It is God Himself that gives you that delusion because you have no love of truth:

2Thes 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 [EVEN HIM],WHOSE COMING IS AFTER THE WORKING OF SATAN with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because THEY RECEIVED NOT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, THAT THEY SHOULD BELIEVE A LIE: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDslsWDzPIc

[Peter]

[[[open your bible... ]]]

Where do you think the verses are from, my friend:

1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:

Are you an antichrist or not? Do you confess that Jesus is the Son of God?

1Jo 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

Do you have the Son of God or not?

1Jo 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYcDZM8Hmg0

[Peter]

God's people have follow Him for 3500 years, in 2 covenants, through ALL of the prophets and apostles in His 1600 year record. Surely you can see how preposterous it is to suggest that hundreds of years after that record closed, that God would send A SINGLE 7th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife taking, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic coward and thief.
A man, and his 23 year record, as THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament.
The Jesus that even Mohammedans believe to be sinless.

The Quran is the book of Satan. Even Mohammed knew it was jinn - demons - that met him in that cave.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKMMr4lZx2E

[Peter]

You are an antichrist as the Word of God explained to you. Mohammed and Deedat were antichrists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w71CtxLdjio

[Peter]

[[[wow that is the sign of it an elitirate man dont know how to read and wright suddenly produce a book... ]]]

Don't be silly. Because Mohammed was too mentally challenged to learn how to read, doesn't mean he was deaf too.
Much of the content of Mohammed's book was from Jewish fables that his, tri-lingual very literate secretary told him, and perhaps even more of it was inspired from numerous chats with his good friend Jabr who was an X-fauxChristian.
Indeed so often did Mohammed come up with one of his "revelations" after visiting Jabr, that the local comic nickname for Jabr was "Holy Spirit"!

http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam_and_fables.htm

Indeed knowledge of Jabr's participation in Mohammed's book was so widespread Mohammed even felt compelled to include a verse just for him:

Sura 16.103 We know indeed that they say, "It is a man that teaches him." The tongue of him they wickedly point to is notably foreign, while this is Arabic, pure and clear.

Even the verse in itself is a lie. How could Mohammed have had so many conversations with his close friend Jabr if Jabr didn't speak Arabic?
See what nonsense Mohammedanism is?
Why would you follow a reprobate murdering, thieving, sex-enslaving, fornicating reprobate like that instead of following Jesus Christ who even the Quran recognizes is sinless?

http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=336.0

I highly recommend that you read "Anatomy of the Quran" by G.J.O. Moshay.
I guarantee that if you read that book, and see what a preposterous mess the Quran is, you will walk out of Mohammed's STAND-ALONE 7th century religion immediately.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT8XE2pA2PE

[Peter]

[[[its not right to accuse on people who know the truth,, is easy to say anti christ to everyone but you dont look at the mirror..]]]

When I look in the mirror I see that I am IN Christ. And Christ is IN me.
I worship God alone, in Jesus name, through the power of the Holy Spirit because I hold the doctrine of Christ:

2Jo 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

You see? It isn't about what I SAY my friend.

1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:...

That's God's message TO YOU. You are an antichrist.

[[[ God(ALLAH) give warning to mohammed,, and say be carefull of unbelievers who wants to destroy you faith..]]]

The reason bibles are banned in Islamic countries is because they are a danger to Mohammed's religion.
So you have to decide whether to follow God through ALL OF THE PROPHETS AND APOSTLES in the 1600 year record of His Word, or follow 7th century Mohammed who WAS and taught the EXACT OPPOSITE.
See how simple it is?

[[[ and rely and saying they are right but they dont see the sign that i given to you..

they dont know what the truth unless they read my books ...]]]

Even Mohammed knew what a pile of garbage he wrote. That's why a whopping 71 out of only 114 suras are subject to abrogation.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=116.0

Quran 2:106 None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things?

Would be comical if not so tragic.
Not abrogated.... just.... substituted!!!.... for something.... better!!!!..... or... er... similar!!!

He even knew how folks not indoctrinated into his reprobate religion would perceive his phony book:

Surah 16:101 When We substitute one revelation for another, and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages), they say, "Thou art but a forger": but most of them understand not.

[[[ not the other book who wrote in many question and many books that dont know what is the truth..

this is my word and my words is your faith.. GOD(ALLAH) is the witness..

salaam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Rdej28pP4

[Peter]

[[[if u go through the context in Sura 8:69 there was a war btw kuffaar nd Muslim an event of war was happening........

:) So when u fight ur enemy then u win ur enemy leaves its goods weapons while retreating if u take these remains nd use them which they left does this means stealing?]]]

You poor, foolish, history ignorant, lost antichrist.
The Islamic First Jihad was IMPERIALISTIC conquest. That means Mohammedans marched into town after town, country after country, murdering, raping wives and children and stealing peoples property.
All the way up to Tours France and Vienna Austria.

Filthy reprobate murdering thieves.

Tell me. How would you like it if an army marched into wherever you live right now, and some filthy reprobate pigs took your mother, wife and minor daughters to their tents to rape and keep raping, along with taking all your money, cars, and anything else you own of value?

623 - Battle of Waddan
623 - Battle of Safwan
623 - Battle of Dul-Ashir
624 - Muhammad and converts begin raids on caravans to fund the movement.
624 - Zakat becomes mandatory
624 - Battle of Badr
624 - Battle of Bani Salim
624 - Battle of Eid-ul-Fitr and Zakat-ul-Fitr
624 - Battle of Bani Qainuqa
624 - Battle of Sawiq
624 - Battle of Ghatfan
624 - Battle of Bahran
625 - Battle of Uhud. 70 Muslims are killed.
625 - Battle of Humra-ul-Asad
625 - Battle of Banu Nudair
625 - Battle of Dhatur-Riqa
626 - Battle of Badru-Ukhra
626 - Battle of Dumatul-Jandal
626 - Battle of Banu Mustalaq Nikah
627 - Battle of the Trench
627 - Battle of Ahzab
627 - Battle of Bani Quraiza
627 - Battle of Bani Lahyan
627 - Battle of Ghaiba
627 - Battle of Khaibar
628 - Muhammad signs treaty with Quraish.
630 - Muhammad conquers Mecca.
630 - Battle of Hunsin.
630 - Battle of Tabuk
632 - Muhammad dies.
632 - Abu-Bakr, Muhammads father-in-law, along with Umar, begin a military move to enforce Islam in Arabia.
633 - Battle at Oman
633 - Battle at Hadramaut.
633 - Battle of Kazima
633 - Battle of Walaja
633 - Battle of Ulleis
633 - Battle of Anbar
634 - Battle of Basra,
634 - Battle of Damascus
634 - Battle of Ajnadin.
634 - Death of Hadrat Abu Bakr. Hadrat Umar Farooq becomes the Caliph.
634 - Battle of Namaraq
634 - Battle of Saqatia.
635 - Battle of Bridge.
635 - Battle of Buwaib.
635 - Conquest of Damascus.
635 - Battle of Fahl.
636 - Battle of Yermuk.
636 - Battle of Qadsiyia.
636 - Conquest of Madain.
637 - Battle of Jalula.
638 - Battle of Yarmouk.
638 - The Muslims defeat the Romans and enter Jerusalem.
638 - Conquest of Jazirah.
639 - Conquest of Khuizistan and movement into Egypt.
641 - Battle of Nihawand
642 - Battle of Ray in Persia
643 - Conquest of Azarbaijan
644 - Conquest of Fars
644 - Conquest of Kharan.
644 - Umar is murdered. Othman becomes the Caliph.
647 - Conquest of the island of Cypress
644 - Uman dies and is succeeded by Caliph Uthman.
648 - Campaign against the Byzantines.
651 - Naval battle against the Byzantines.
654 - Islam spreads into North Africa
656 - Uthman is murdered. Ali become Caliph.
658 - Battle of Nahrawan.
659 - Conquest of Egypt
661 - Ali is murdered.
662 - Egypt falls to Islam rule.
666 - Sicily is attacked by Muslims
677 - Siege of Constantinople
687 - Battle of Kufa
691 - Battle of Deir ul Jaliq
700 - Sufism takes root as a sect of Islam
700 - Military campaigns in North Africa
702 - Battle of Deir ul Jamira
711 - Muslims invade Gibraltar
711 - Conquest of Spain
713 - Conquest of Multan
716 - Invasion of Constantinople
732 - Battle of Tours in France.
740 - Battle of the Nobles.
741 - Battle of Bagdoura in North Africa
744 - Battle of Ain al Jurr.
746 - Battle of Rupar Thutha
748 - Battle of Rayy.
749 - Battle of lsfahan
749 - Battle of Nihawand
750 - Battle of Zab
772 - Battle of Janbi in North Africa
777 - Battle of Saragossa in Spain

FILTHY REPROBATE PIGS.

[Peter]

[[[Jews, Christians and Muslims have a common father, Prophet Abraham who's Sons Ishmael & Isaac were part of a covenant made by God. Analysis of biblical scriptures illustrates that Ishmael was part of God's covenant and that a time would come w...]]]

More foolish Ahmed Deedat styled Mohammedan lies.

Let me help you with the scriptures from both Judaism and Christianity (God's people):

Abraham's wife Sarah had thought she was too advanced in age to have a child so she encouraged Abraham to have a son with her handmaiden, to raise as their own.
Ishmael was Abraham's son with his wife Sarah's handmaiden Hagar.
Sarah was later actually able to have their son Isaac.

Gen 17:19 And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name ISAAC: and I WILL ESTABLISH MY COVENANT WITH HIM for an everlasting covenant, [and] with his seed after him.

Sarah caught Ishmael mocking Isaac.

Gen 21:8 And the child grew, and was weaned: and Abraham made a great feast the [same] day that Isaac was weaned. 9 And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, which she had born unto Abraham, mocking. 10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, [even] with Isaac.

Abraham not only sent Hagar away, but also Ishmael, thereby DISOWNING him.

Genesis 21:12 And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for IN ISAAC shall thy seed be called.

You see? The seed of Ishmael Is not part of the covenant at all.

Gal 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he [who was] of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman [was] by promise.

The seed of Ishmael (including Mohammedans) still walk after the flesh directly against the promise.

Galatians 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

But you could be a child of the promise too, my friend, if you repent. Otherwise you will die stewing in your sins. Even your false prophet Mohammed expressed doubt that he was going to heaven.

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

The seed of Ishamel are, however, just as prophesied:

Genesis 16:11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou [art] with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name ISHMAEL; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction. 12 And HE WILL BE A WILD MAN; HIS HAND [WILL BE] AGAINST EVERY MAN, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

Murdering others all around the world for 1400 years.
Everywhere we find murder, mayhem and misery around the world today, we find the seed of Ishmael.

Do you see how everywhere you turn the lies you have been taught are the EXACT OPPOSITE of how God revealed Himself over His 1600 year record?

Much more on this subject:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=237.0
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=219.0

And on the preposterous lies that you have been taught by Greek sophist styled lying, deceiving, entertainers:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=33.0

You are headed to hell in the fast lane, my friend. Pushed along by proven lying, deceiving fools like Ahmed Deedat.
Why not call on the name of Jesus Christ and trust in the one that even the Quran teaches is sinless, rather than a 7th century murdering, raping reprobate thief that WAS and taught the EXACT OPPOSITE?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDslsWDzPIc

[Peter]

[[[and do you think we dont know it there are exact words to be consider and there are words to be investigat..]]]

The same OT verses in the Tanach.

See how foolish you are? First you boldly say:

"Analysis of biblical scriptures illustrates that Ishmael was part of God's covenant and that a time would come w..."

And then I show you that you bought into a lie, and so now you deny the very scriptures you thought supported Mohammed's STAND-ALONE 7th century religion and the lies you bought into about Ishmael.

[[[like your preacher dont tell me he is speaking 100 percent truth... o really the truth or not in order to protect theier business..]]]

Ah yes. You mean like the fake former "Christian" Yusuf Estes who was never a minister by his own admission because he himself said he put money before ministry.

But I quoted you verses from the word of God, not some man.
See how transparent your delusion and how foolish pretending it has anything to do with pastors is?

[[[my friend you decieved by the evil wake up.. ]]]

But I prove to you over and over from the Word of God and yet you remain blind to all but a 7th century reprobate that WAS and taught the EXACT OPPOSITE of God's Word.

[[[[all your comments her.. are being wrong.. ]]]

But you can see they aren't my comments at all. They are verses from the scriptures.

[[[[you prove nothing.. because i know from my heart and god give me a clear sign...]][

Your heart is black with the spirit of antichrist.
Someone is wrong because what you believe is the EXACT OPPOSITE.

So who's wrong? The People who have followed God for 3500 years in 2 covenants through the 1600 year record of His Word through ALL of the prophets and apostles?

Or the ones who follow A SINGLE 7th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife taking, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic coward and thief.
A man, and his 23 year record, as THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament.
The Jesus that even Mohammedans believe to be sinless.

[[[take a look... salaam]]]

I of course have. That's why I am so desperate for you.
See how foolish are your false beliefs? First you said:

"Analysis of biblical scriptures illustrates that Ishmael was part of God's covenant and that a time would come w..."

And then when I show you that you bought into a lie through those very scriptures, you babble on about pastors and unrelated nonsense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Rdej28pP4

[Peter]

[[[you only told of what you input your mind.. but try to look at your self..
maybe you dont even see the sign of the GOD

I hope Someday you will wakeup on your long nigthmare....]]]

Wake up to follow A SINGLE 7th century reprobate exactly contrary to God's Word?

[[[wake up my freind their a lot of christian preist and nuns ....]]]

Priests and nuns in the Roman church are among those who believe that a Priest sprinkling water on an infant's head makes them a Christian. That's why they are deluded into believing themselves to be "converts" when they were never Christians to begin with. Here is how I know a Christian has never converted to the false prophet Mohammed's religion:

Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and FALSE PROPHETS, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

But you see? It's not possible to deceive God's elect.
Only "Christian" posers.

[[[.......and christian preacher who conveted to islam because there are some scriptures in the bible that contradict to its meaning... and they admited that.. in silence they were converted to islam ...]]]

If you mean Yusuf Estes his own testimony proves he was never a Christian since he said he put money before ministry proving he is nothing but a lost liar.

Mat 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

[.....that is the big paradox... and by the blessing of GOD.. he never fails .hes promise to the people and that he will take the sign of the truth and justice... of his covenant... like you said....]]]

No my friend, it is the very effective deceit from Satan that Mohammed, and you in turn, fell for.
Don't you ever wonder why you follow a murdering, raping, thief?

[[[this is the big sign...]]]

There's your error my friend. Seeking signs instead of truth:

Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

6 million Muslims come to Jesus Christ every year, in Africa alone, my friend.

[[[... my friend god foretold mohammed.....]]]

Even Mohammed knew it was jinn that met him in the cave - not God.

[[[.... you will be rejected by many people in deed you will be sucess to convey my message......]]]

No question about his success, or his Islamic beast's end:

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where THE BEAST and THE FALSE PROPHET [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Who do you think that is a reference to? The tooth fairy?

[[[...... to my people who are decieved by the wrong teaching of pegans and idolators.. in long long time..
and they are the disbilievers.. who try to be in the right way but it is a lie of evils.

I AM and I AM... Moahmmed said... GOD is my witness....]]]

But even Mohammed knew it was jinn that met him in that cave.

[Peter]

[[[you only told of what you input your mind.. but try to look at your self..
maybe you dont even see the sign of the GOD

I hope Someday you will wakeup on your long nigthmare....]]]

Wake up to follow A SINGLE 7th century reprobate exactly contrary to God's Word?

[[[wake up my freind their a lot of christian preist and nuns ....]]]

Priests and nuns in the Roman church are among those who believe that a Priest sprinkling water on an infant's head makes them a Christian. That's why they are deluded into believing themselves to be "converts" when those that suggest they are were were never Christians to begin with. Here is how I know a Christian has never converted to the false prophet Mohammed's religion:

Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and FALSE PROPHETS, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

But you see? It's not possible to deceive God's elect.
Only "Christian" posers.

[[[.......and christian preacher who conveted to islam because there are some scriptures in the bible that contradict to its meaning... and they admited that.. in silence they were converted to islam ...]]]

If you mean Yusuf Estes his own testimony proves he was never a Christian since he said he put money before ministry proving he is nothing but a lost liar.

Mat 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

[.....that is the big paradox... and by the blessing of GOD.. he never fails .hes promise to the people and that he will take the sign of the truth and justice... of his covenant... like you said....]]]

No my friend, it is the very effective deceit from Satan that Mohammed, and you in turn, fell for.
Don't you ever wonder why you follow a murdering, raping, thief?

[[[this is the big sign...]]]

That some reprobates fell for the false prophet is not a sign. And there's your error my friend. Seeking signs instead of truth:

Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

6 million Muslims come to Jesus Christ every year, in Africa alone, my friend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7pALeYGk6o

[[[... my friend god foretold mohammed.....]]]

Even Mohammed knew it was jinn that met him in the cave - not God.

[[[.... you will be rejected by many people in deed you will be sucess to convey my message......]]]

No question about his success, or his Islamic beast's end:

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where THE BEAST and THE FALSE PROPHET [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Who do you think that is a reference to? The tooth fairy?

[[[...... to my people who are decieved by the wrong teaching of pegans and idolators.. in long long time..
and they are the disbilievers.. who try to be in the right way but it is a lie of evils.

I AM and I AM... Moahmmed said... GOD is my witness....]]]

But even Mohammed knew it was jinn that met him in that cave.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ_26AE0G_8