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Re: Comparison between two groups of women
« Reply #50 on: July 28, 2010, 06:04:06 AM »
2. Then after that you can show us where God condones that behavior for priests.

Little wonder why we hear from the media about Priests that are in involved with Pedophilic acts. However, from where these Priests inspire to do such acts? The answer is that they inspire from Bible. Actually, Pedophilia was born from this book of perversion. Let us see some passages that clearly support Pedophilia and Rape of preteen girls

Numbers 31: 17-18

17. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.


The Jewish soldiers were commanded by “God” in the bible to keep the woman children (little girls) for themselves! In addition, they commanded to kill every woman that hath know a man by lying with him. How these soldiers in those days know if the girls are virgin or not? Simply they verify it by raping them and if the Jews discovered that they are non-virgins then they kill them as they commanded by “God”.

I suppose that would be the only solution in the mind of a male Muslim since that's what Mohammed and his boys did IN THE 7TH CENTURY.
It wouldn't occur to you that they would be asked, or verify by whether they had children or not.
But where in this record of a historical event of a few thousand years ago does it instruct Christian priests to molest children?
   

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Re: Comparison between two groups of women
« Reply #51 on: July 28, 2010, 06:13:50 AM »
But the most outrageous is that the Bible imply that God is a Pedophile himself! (AstagfuruAllah)

Numbers 31: 25-40

25. And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

26. Take the sum of the prey that was taken, both of man and of beast, thou, and Eleazar the priest, and the chief fathers of the congregation:

27. And divide the prey into two parts; between them that took the war upon them, who went out to battle, and between all the congregation:

28. And levy a tribute unto the LORD of the men of war which went out to battle: one soul of five hundred, both of the persons,(including the little girls) and of the beeves, and of the asses, and of the sheep:

29. Take it of their half, and give it unto Eleazar the priest, for an heave offering of the LORD.

30. And of the children of Israel's half, thou shalt take one portion of fifty, of the persons(including the little girls), of the beeves, of the asses, and of the flocks, of all manner of beasts, and give them unto the Levites, which keep the charge of the tabernacle of the LORD.

31. And Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the LORD commanded Moses.

32. And the booty, being the rest of the prey which the men of war had caught, was six hundred thousand and seventy thousand and five thousand sheep,

33. And threescore and twelve thousand beeves,

34. And threescore and one thousand asses,

35. And thirty and two thousand persons in all, of women that had not known man by lying with him.

36. And the half, which was the portion of them that went out to war, was in number three hundred thousand and seven and thirty thousand and five hundred sheep:

37. And the LORD'S tribute of the sheep was six hundred and threescore and fifteen.

38. And the beeves were thirty and six thousand; of which the LORD'S tribute was threescore and twelve.

39. And the asses were thirty thousand and five hundred; of which the LORD'S tribute was threescore and one.

40. And the persons(including little girls) were sixteen thousand; of which the LORD'S tribute was thirty and two persons.(preteen girls)

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The verse 40 is to dedicate the little girls (of women that had not known man by lying with him-32 of them)

to"God"! As God, himself commanded above that wants these preteen girls. Indeed clear perversion, God in the bible want for himself 32 little girls, why? Maybe to do what his soldiers(Jews)to the innocent little girls.

You presume that is what they did because that is what your own false prophet Mohammed did and his followers unto today.

"Eyewitness accounts detailing the militia attacks are horrifying. "They killed my 3-year-old son right in front of my eyes," one father from West Darfur said. Since last fall, women have reported more than 500 rapes. Three women said five militiamen beat and raped them last August. The women said, "After they abused us, they told us that now we would have Arab babies. And, if they would find any [more] women, they would rape them again to change the color of their children.""

Therefore Bible by saing that "LORD'S tribute was thirty and two persons.(preteen girls) actually demonstrate the Pedophilic nature of the biblical "God" . Shame to the Bible and Shame to its followers.

 So when we hear from the media, Priests(Christians and Jews-majority of Christians) that rape and molest young preteen boys and girls, we must not be surprised because these are the teachings from their "Holy Book" the Bible, as clearly demonstrated from the Verses : Numbers 31: 25-40.  
In the verse 35 we are told that Jews caught as booty 32.000 preteen girls for themselves

Slaves were taken for many reasons, including domestic chores.
Where in the historical event recorded in those old covenant verses does it "teach" anyone anything (besides perhaps consequences of disobeying God), let alone to "rape and molest young preteen boys and girls"?
Did the revelation of God to mankind end with those verses, or continue unfolding, as mankind changed over another thousand years, or so?
When did the prophets end suggestion of the use of a sword in God's service?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=935.0


Do you see how Satan through his prophet Mohammed and the spirit of antichrist broke your mind? How he impeded your ability to do other than blaspheme God in order to follow your murdering, prisoner raping, thief "prophet" just as prophesied of Mohammed's Islamic "beast"?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1536.0

You projected the behavior of your 7th century false prophet Mohammed, back a couple thousand years, knowing what he would have done.

Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"

What does the Gospel instruct of "overseers", or bishops as the KJV refers to them?

1Ti 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

You may begin to see from the verse above, why the Roman Church false doctrine of celibacy of priests, winds up producing the result that you note in some men that call themselves priests.

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Re: Comparison between two groups of women
« Reply #52 on: July 29, 2010, 12:47:53 AM »

Answer this only after the prior 2 posts.



Can u please Tell

IS Marrying Mean Rape

Which is Better Raping the Girl of 13 Year or Marry Her?


Are Marrying and Raping  Equal To You?

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Re: Comparison between two groups of women
« Reply #53 on: July 29, 2010, 05:04:31 AM »
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Answer this only after the prior 2 posts.

Can u please Tell IS Marrying Mean Rape

Which is Better Raping the Girl of 13 Year or Marry Her?

Are Marrying and Raping Equal To You?

<br /><br />Rape is obviously always wrong. It isn't about what is better or worse.
A marriage is engaged in by 2 consenting adults.
Do you really believe a 9 year old girl would desire to marry a 52 year old man?
Do you think that is what she would choose?
Do you think a 9 year old girl would desire to have sex with a 52 year old?

Do you think a female prisoner would desire to have sex with the very people responsible for the murder/beheading of her husband, father brother and/or son?

Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, "We went out with Allah’s Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus."

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Re: Comparison between two groups of women
« Reply #54 on: July 29, 2010, 05:46:03 AM »
Rape is obviously always wrong. It isn't about what is better or worse.
A marriage is engaged in by 2 consenting adults.
Do you really believe a 9 year old girl would desire to marry a 52 year old man?
Do you think that is what she would choose?
Do you think a 9 year old girl would desire to have sex with a 52 year old?

Do you think a female prisoner would desire to have sex with the very people responsible for the murder/beheading of her husband, father brother and/or son?

Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"

OK freind, What is best Option

1. A man of 52 year old marrying the Girl of 9 or 13 years old

2.  A man of 52 Year old Raping the Girl of 9 or 13 Years old

Your answer

Rape is obviously always wrong. It isn't about what is better or worse.



In raping a 9 year old girl would desire to have sex ????

Hazrat Aisha (Radhiyallahu-Anha) became the Holy Prophet's (Sallallahu-Alayhi-Wasallam) wife in Makkah when she was in the sixth year of her life but her wedding did not take place until the second year after the Hijrah when she was about nine or ten. About her wedding, she related that: "Shortly before she was to leave her parent's house, she slipped out into the courtyard to play with a passing friend. I was playing on a see-saw and my long streaming hair was dishevelled." She further says: "They came and took me from my play and made me ready."

Marriage to the Holy Prophet (Sallallahu-Alayhi-Wasallam) did not change her playful ways. Her young friends came to visit her regularly in her own

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Re: Comparison between two groups of women
« Reply #55 on: July 29, 2010, 05:57:00 AM »
Marriage to the Holy Prophet (Sallallahu-Alayhi-Wasallam) did not change her playful ways.

Where does the passage indicate that Aisha was allowed to play with her friends after Mohammed had sex with her?

Her young friends came to visit her regularly in her own

You seem to be suggesting that a 9 year old child would desire to have sex with a 52 year old man, as long as she was still allowed to play with her friends. Did I misunderstand?

Don't you think a 9 year old would prefer to continue to play with her friends, without having to have sex, with a 52 year old man?

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Re: Comparison between two groups of women
« Reply #56 on: August 03, 2010, 05:52:20 AM »

Where does the passage indicate that Aisha was allowed to play with her friends after Mohammed had sex with her?

You seem to be suggesting that a 9 year old child would desire to have sex with a 52 year old man, as long as she was still allowed to play with her friends. Did I misunderstand?

Don't you think a 9 year old would prefer to continue to play with her friends, without having to have sex, with a 52 year old man?

Important Note: Please pay attention  to the Virgin Mary's (peace be upon her) age.  According to Christian resources, Mary was 12-14 when she had Jesus.

That is not 9 years old, and she wasn't sexually violated by a 52 year old.
Now answer the questions. The rest stays in spam until you begin with succinct answers to the questions.

You will also see proofs from the Jews' Holiest Book, the Talmud, ....

Please see forum decorum. The Jews do not consider the Talmud to even be inspired, let alone their "Holiest Book".
If you lie about Jewish books again, or try quoting the Talmud, you will be banned as per forum rules.

"Posts by non-Jews quoting from the Talmud, or other Hebrew scripture that the Jews themselves do not consider inspired, will be deleted without discussion. Repeat offenses will result in a ban of the poster."

Jews are the only ones allowed to quote from the Talmud in here. Now answer the questions.

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Re: Islam and Women
« Reply #57 on: August 03, 2010, 06:10:35 AM »
Well, a lot of the things we do today are not right in the eyes of many.  Our "standards" today mean nothing to what took place 1400 years ago.

Certainly Islamic standards even today still copy some of the worst elements of the last 3500 years. From beheading, to imperial conquest and rape of children and prisoners and stealing "spoils of war" to multiple wives - all in an effort to be like Mohammed.

Today, anyone under 18 years old is considered a "child", a baby still under his mommy's and daddy's care.  Back then on the other hand, people who reached the age of 18 were considered wise and very mature.

I am not asking about 18 year olds.
I am not asking about what was done, or what is done today, to women.
I am asking about a human being's right to self-determination, that has been denied to women in Islam, for 1400 years.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=54.0



I am asking about the desires of a 9 year old girl.

Do you believe a 9 year old girl, of any generation, would DESIRE to be sexually violated by and stuck with, a 52 year old man for a "husband"?

Or is it more likely that she would desire to continue to play with dolls with her friends for a few more years, and then perhaps some day dream about marrying a handsome young man, closer to her own age?


Answer the question, then we'll discuss your answer, and eventually we can move forward with the rest of your post, singling out and discussing each point.
No more spam blizzards, my friend. You must post a single point at a time because of your chronic spamming.

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Here is what happens in Afghanistan if a woman wants divorce
« Reply #58 on: August 06, 2010, 08:57:16 AM »
The following is an abridged version of an article that appears in the Aug. 9, 2010, print and iPad editions of TIME magazine.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2007238,00.html

The Taliban pounded on the door just before midnight, demanding that Aisha, 18, be punished for running away from her husband's house. Her in-laws treated her like a slave, Aisha pleaded. They beat her. If she hadn't run away, she would have died. Her judge, a local Taliban commander, was unmoved. Aisha's brother-in-law held her down while her husband pulled out a knife. First he sliced off her ears. Then he started on her nose.

This didn't happen 10 years ago, when the Taliban ruled Afghanistan. It happened last year. Now hidden in a secret women's shelter in Kabul, Aisha listens obsessively to the news. Talk that the Afghan government is considering some kind of political accommodation with the Taliban frightens her. "They are the people that did this to me," she says, touching her damaged face. "How can we reconcile with them?"


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Re: Islam and Women
« Reply #59 on: August 10, 2010, 04:37:14 AM »
Compose your replies.
One point at a time.
No more posting on more than one thread at a time until you engage in discussion.
No more copy and pasting for you except from the Quran and Hadith until you reply to responses.
When you arrive in the forum go to the spam category and find the thread dedicated to you. There will be a link to the replies to your posts, that you failed to address the last time you were here.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=55.msg7199#msg7199

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Re: Islam and Women
« Reply #60 on: October 11, 2010, 09:52:19 PM »
Clear proof that Islam holds woman higher than Christianity:

http://www.themodernreligion.com/women/w_comparison_full.htm

And as for the woman with her nose cut off, the Taliban condemned that act, and meanwhile Christian US bombs rip women and children to shreds in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and previously in Iraq.

And let us not forget the US soldiers who raped and killed the teenage Iraqi girl, dragged her family out of their house and slaughtered them.
Hardly mentioned in the US media.

There is clearly an attempt to distort Islam and create hatred against Islam and spread ignorance about Islam whereas in reality, Islam holds women much higher and better.

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Re: Islam and Women
« Reply #61 on: October 12, 2010, 05:01:30 AM »
Hello beebok and welcome to the forum! :)
Starting in with such as strong approach begs a very direct response with which I am willing to oblige.
Please feel free to quote, and chop the following three posts up into small pieces, to make it easier to reply.
(instructions on quoting http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=39.0 )

Clear proof that Islam holds woman higher than Christianity:

http://www.themodernreligion.com/women/w_comparison_full.htm

And as for the woman with her nose cut off, .......

My friend, you act as though that's the only incident of violence against women. Try a Google like - islam honor killing.
You'll find that Muslim women are being slaughtered all over the world by the hands of their own fathers and brothers. That's because in Islam women are nothing more than property/chattel owned by their fathers (or brothers) and then assigned to the husband that their father or brother chooses. Here's why

"'your wives are as tilth (farmland) unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will.' (Sura 2:223).

Then the wives have to suffer all their lives under the oppression of a "husband", that is not so much interested in them as he is looking forward toward his sexual escapades with multiple big eyed virgins, in Mohammed's satanic and carnal chicken and wine serving bordello, that he called "paradise".

It's a very different responsibility for Christians than treating our wives like so much farmland "when or how we will"

Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

........ the Taliban condemned that act, and meanwhile Christian US bombs rip women and children to shreds in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and previously in Iraq.


http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1570.0

The U.S. divorced itself from God in 1947 through the Everson decision, that began the "separation of church and state".
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1244.0

Regardless of how well-meaning the cause, U.S. government/military misadventure since that divorce - from Korea to Vietnam to the resumption of the war in Iraq (of course it began because Saddam attacked Kuwait and other Arab countries in the area appreciated our initial intervention) - have reflected the divorce (by not finishing the job the first time around in Iraq, for example).

Though I doubt that many Iraqis are sorry that they don't live under Saddam's tyranny any more (except a few in the Sunni minority that oppressed the Shiite majority). Nor the Afghan - particularly women - are sad that they aren't oppressed by the Taliban any more.
Try visiting "Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan (RAWA)"

But unless the evil of Islam itself is wiped out, the future for these poor folks and others, oppressed by reprobates like in Iran and Saudi Arabia, they will all sink back into the same despair, because these poor folks are all filled with the spirit of antichrist through the false prophet Mohammed.

What may be lost on you is the fact that you are cheering on your own, and/or your children's, destruction. Who could be so blind as to not see, that the most violent and reprobate element of Islam, will be it's ultimate arbiter? Do Shiites really believe their lives would be spared - much less be allowed the freedom to practice their religion - in a world run by Sunnis, for example? Yet interestingly, Muslims enjoy more freedom in Israel, than in any Islamic country on earth.
So unless you are prepared to become as murder loving and reprobate as the Taliban - or worse - you (and/or your children) will eventually get your head cut off as an "apostate", by the most reprobate element that emerges from the true followers of Mohammed and Islam's books.

Surah 5.33 The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;

In the eyes of true Muslims that follow Mohammed through his books, and do as Mohammed did, any Muslim that suggests that Islam is a religion of peace - other than when engaging in taqiyyah - is a "renegade" waging war against Islam.



God gave us the tools to fight the evil of Satan with. The Sword of the Spirit.
Eph 16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

But our own government collected the bibles up that some of our soldiers had been passing out, and burned them. The exact opposite of the way a Christian nation would approach the war, thus destroying the one true, and most effective, weapon that God gave us to fight the enemy.

Hbr 4:12 For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged  sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

For heaven's sake. All we would have to do is leaflet all Islamic countries with the fact that Mecca never existed before the Christian era, prompting Muslims to ask their Imams for archaeological or historical EVIDENCE that suggests that Mecca ever existed before Arab pagans settled it around the early 4th century AD, and built their Kaaba around the early 5th century AD, and Islam would collapse.
http://www.historyofmecca.com/resources.htm
Or I would at least like to hope that a few of the Muslims that got the leaflet would inquire of their Imams to produce some evidence that Mecca existed before the Christian era. But then they would realize it would get them put on the would-be "apostate" list, and killed.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=567.msg4924#msg4924

Perhaps you can present some evidence of a pre-4th century Mecca for us.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=56.0

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Re: Islam and Women
« Reply #62 on: October 12, 2010, 05:17:55 AM »
And let us not forget the US soldiers who raped and killed the teenage Iraqi girl, dragged her family out of their house and slaughtered them.
Hardly mentioned in the US media.

You are asking the wrong questions. Where does the Gospel call for such behavior?

Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

John 13:35 By this shall all [men] know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

But Mohammedanism?
Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them

Mohammed was perhaps the most famous terrorist in all history. That's why everywhere his true followers are we find murder, mayhem and misery. Mohammed raped and sexually enslaved the women of the vanquished.

Quran Sura 33:50-51 "O prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war ...
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=456.0
Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1528.msg5864#msg5864
Sahih Muslim Book 8:3431: "It is permissible to have sexual intercourse with a captive woman after she is purified (of menses or delivery) in case she has a husband, her marriage is abrogated after she becomes captive.

Even pimped them out
Sura 24:33:...But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),

So WHEN they don't desire chastity then pimp them out and make some gain! And even if you force them, Mohammed's "Allah" is forgiving! Isn't that a convenient god for a bunch of men that made their living by murdering farmers, sexually enslaving their women, and stealing their property?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=951.0

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Re: Islam and Women
« Reply #63 on: October 12, 2010, 05:18:39 AM »
There is clearly an attempt to distort Islam and create hatred against Islam and spread ignorance about Islam whereas in reality, Islam holds women much higher and better.

My friend one doesn't have to "distort" Mohammed's 7th century religion to understand that Mohammed WAS and taught the EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus Christ as revealed through the Gospel.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=148.0

You are correct in suggesting that I hate Mohammed's STAND-ALONE 7th century religion, but the reason is because I love Muslims, and am desperate for Mohammed's followers. That's why I have devoted my life to helping you overcome Mohammed's religion. Islam is exactly and specifically antichrist.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=252.0

1 John 2:22  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].

We can see Satan's fingerprints are all over it because, unlike any other religion, Mohammed taught his followers what to DISbelieve, rather than what to believe. If you don't understand what I am talking about, why don't you tell us who you believe, died on the cross?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=628.0

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Re: Islam and Women
« Reply #64 on: November 17, 2010, 10:51:05 AM »
Satan doesn't care who we worship(or do not) as long as it isn't Jesus that we follow, because he hates God and his creation. That is why the anti-Christ, Islam, teaches what NOT to believe. "If you do not have the Son, you do not have the Father." as Jesus said. Any sin is ok as long as it "advances Islam". The reason Muslims lie is because they are to weak to impose their false god. Where Islam is "supreme" they live as did Muhammad without shame or lies bcause it doesn't matter because the have the power to force their version of ant-Christ on the masses. This is one believer who is secure in the Truth.   ;D

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Re: Islam and Women
« Reply #65 on: November 17, 2010, 12:25:07 PM »
Satan doesn't care who we worship(or do not) as long as it isn't Jesus that we follow, because he hates God and his creation. That is why the anti-Christ, Islam, teaches what NOT to believe. "If you do not have the Son, you do not have the Father." as Jesus said. Any sin is ok as long as it "advances Islam". The reason Muslims lie is because they are to weak to impose their false god. Where Islam is "supreme" they live as did Muhammad without shame or lies bcause it doesn't matter because the have the power to force their version of ant-Christ on the masses. This is one believer who is secure in the Truth.   ;D

Indeed. Islam is inspired by the very spirit of anti-Christ. Accepting Jesus as God's Son is shirk, the only unforgivable sin in Islam.
Doth that man love his Lord who would be willing to see Jesus wearing a crown of thorns, while for himself he craves a chaplet of laurel? Shall Jesus ascend to his throne by the cross, and do we expect to be carried there on the shoulders of applauding crowds? Charles H. Spurgeon

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Re: Islam and Women
« Reply #66 on: August 11, 2011, 06:22:23 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=ORLJDaJrc1g

The Muslims are infect facing world wide humiliations for being a violent faith. This is bullsh*t propaganda by the Muslims. A French woman in my country converted to Islam, only to be used for sexual purpose, force to marry many Muslim Malays whom were hungry for her white ass, Currently she resides in a mental hospital Tampoi ,Johor. Malaysia. They use Gods words to cover their sinister acts.

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Re: Comparison between two groups of women
« Reply #67 on: August 17, 2011, 12:40:04 AM »


" ...... this is a what a typical Muslim woman looks like: Pure, innocent, virgin (until marriage) and non-sexual ........."

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Re: Comparison between two groups of women
« Reply #68 on: August 17, 2011, 02:07:17 AM »

" ...... this is a what a typical Muslim woman looks like: Pure, innocent, virgin (until marriage) and non-sexual ........."

 ???

Perhaps that's about what Aisha looked like when 53 year old Muhammad took her to his bed? Still sporting the baby fat?
Sadly Punisher had a point from the sense that Muslim girls often don't get a chance, to even begin to mature, before their dad forces them to marry the husband of their dad's choice. If her father dies then her brothers decide for her.

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Re: Islam and Women
« Reply #69 on: August 19, 2011, 06:50:37 AM »
http://www.searchtruth.com/book_display.php?book=5&translator=1&start=0&number=268#268

Bukhari B5 #268 Narrated Qatada: Anas bin Malik said, "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet the strength for it?" Anas replied, "We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa'id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven).

http://www.quranenglish.com/tafheem_quran/066.htm

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Re: Islam and Women
« Reply #70 on: September 15, 2011, 09:25:16 AM »
I just noticed something funny following the wife beating verse in the Quran

Sura 4.34   Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient (to Allah and to their husbands), and guard in the husband's absence what Allah orders them to guard (e.g. their chastity, their husband's property). As to those women on whose part you see ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allah is Ever Most High, Most Great.   
   35   If you fear a breach between them twain (the man and his wife), appoint (two) arbitrators, one from his family and the other from her's; if they both wish for peace, Allah will cause their reconciliation. Indeed Allah is Ever All-Knower, Well-Acquainted with all things.
http://www.searchtruth.com/chapter_display.php?chapter=4&translator=5#34

Isn't that funny? The guy will pick a male relative from his side, and the wife will pick a female relative from her side ..... errr ...... wait a minute, the female arbitrator's testimony is only worth half what a male's testimony is. Let alone that even if a female arbitrator was picked her husband could simply tell her that if she didn't testify in favor of the husband he would beat her!

Volume 1, Book 6, Number 301: Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
    Once Allah's Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o 'Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion."

Men are promised virgins and rivers of wine in heaven.  And the promise for women?  Are they perhaps the ones stuck cooking the chicken to top-off a lifetime of abuse, and competing with other wives, on earth?
Mohammed said there is a higher percentage of women in hell because they are not allowed to pray when menstruating, and their deficiency in intelligence is evidenced by his rule that the witness of two women equal the witness of one man.

Sura 24.6 And for those who launch a charge against their spouses, and have (in support) no evidence but their own,- their solitary evidence (can be received) if they bear witness four times (with an oath) by Allah that they are solemnly telling the truth;

Ah Muhammadan jurisprudence! Do you suppose this is part of the sharia law that has been codified into English law? Certainly the daughter only receiving half the inheritance of her brother has.

Sura 2:228 Divorced women shall wait concerning themselves for three monthly periods. Nor is it lawful for them to hide what Allah Hath created in their wombs, if they have faith in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands have the better right to take them back in that period, if they wish for reconciliation. And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree (of advantage) over them. And Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.

No fooling! I'd say double the witness power qualifies!

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Re: Islam and Women
« Reply #71 on: October 25, 2011, 10:19:26 AM »
"They call it female circumcision – an inadequate description of the radical and primitive surgery young girls are  forced to undergo.

The local Imam, when I challenged him about such a barbaric practice, which he justified as a religious and cultural necessity to ensure their purity at marriage, had steely eyes which bored through me. ‘In the not too distant future,’ he intoned, ‘all British girls will be circumcised when Islam rules this country.’"

http://citizensreport.info/2011/07/31/british-imam-claims-all-girls-in-england-will-undergo-female-circumcision/


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Re: Islam and Women
« Reply #73 on: March 08, 2013, 08:05:55 AM »
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Ur society have made women as Show piece, This is not respect my brother, this truly the follow ship of Satan

Let see another image

Its very shameful for whole of Christianity what they have made their women, A tool of Sex, nothing more

and its very shameful for me posting those sinful images ???

But it has nothing to do with Christianity. Show me where it is suggested in the Gospel. If you cannot then by falsely calling it Christian behavior you are exposed as nothing more than a liar for Satan. What you have shown is of the world, and Christians are specifically not of this world.

John 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before [it hated] you. 19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

The kingdoms of this world, from which your images come, are Satan's kingdoms. That's why Mohammedan Islam has lusted after Satan's kingdoms for 1400 years. Because Islam is of Satan - Satan's followers through the false prophet Mohammed.

Hey, but then what could show more "respect" for women, than raping them after slaughtering their fathers, husbands and sons?

Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, We went out with Allah’s Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus."
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1263.msg5864#msg5864

Rape of prisoners as specifically condoned by Mohammed's phony god "Allah".
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=456.0

Brother hope soon ur society will realize that Islam has respected women in every aspect of life?????

Soon u will See

Mark my words

In not a single aspect are women respected in Islam. From being treated as chattel by being assigned to some creep for life - because their father wanted it - at pain of death through an "honor" killing if they don't comply.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=54.0

To a 7th century illiterate that himself was too mentally challenged to learn how to read, actually calling women, "deficient in intelligence". Indeed even slaughtering a literate female poet who wrote poetry about Mohammed's ridiculous pseudo-religious sham.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=127.0

Volume 1, Book 6, Number 301: Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:... "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied, ".... I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you."... The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence."

Your taqiyyah won't fly here my friend, as also shown in the original post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V22qDQqMPL0

Sura 2:223 your wives are as tilth (farmland) unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will.

Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/women_in_islam.htm
   

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Re: Islam and Women
« Reply #74 on: March 08, 2013, 08:11:45 AM »
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Slavery and child abuse is common place in the Church (Catholic and Protestant)
In the East (bangkok) Slavery and child abuse by western visitors has balloned the industry 1000 fold in recent years

What you have reduced yourself to now is the classic Muslim fallback of pretending that all non-Muslims are Christians.

Would you like me to continue?

What I would like is for you to quit ignoring the replies that I have patiently placed on your comments.

The Problems amongst disbelievers and Christians make Islamic transgressions look like childsplay,

Before you characterize a behavior as "Christian" you are first going to have to show us where, in the Gospel, Christians are instructed to do any of what you claim Christians do.
I have shown you what Mohammed's Allah instructed in regard to raping captives, and pimping out one's sex slaves in the original post that you have yet to refute.

Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, "We went out with Allah’s Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.""

Real nice bunch of guys, huh? Rape of, and fornication with, captives, CODIFIED into Mohammed's religion and practiced all over Mohammedan Africa today.

"Eyewitness accounts detailing the militia attacks are horrifying. "They killed my 3-year-old son right in front of my eyes" one father from West Darfur said. Since last fall, women have reported more than 500 rapes. Three women said five militiamen beat and raped them last August. The women said, "After they abused us, they told us that now we would have Arab babies. And, if they would find any [more] women, they would rape them again to change the color of their children.""

Please do not act out of Ignorance take the beam out of your own eye.

Repent and turn to ALLAH for guidance.

I'm sorry but you have failed miserably to make any kind of case for Mohammed's STAND-ALONE 7th century religion. And I have shown that Muslims must first empty their minds of history, archaeology, geography and particularly scripture, until their intellect becomes that of a 7th century desert dwelling illiterate, in order to follow THE false prophet Mohammed.
All you've proven through your unsupported outbursts in here is that you don't know much more about Islam than you do Christianity.

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where THE BEAST and THE FALSE PROPHET [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

That false prophet isn't the tooth fairy, my poor, deluded friend. Forever is a very long time.