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717 people dead: What caused the Hajj stampede?
« on: October 07, 2015, 07:40:20 AM »
What a sad, tragic and completely unnecessary disaster, for the "children of the flesh" (as the scriptures refer to them), engaging in their recycled and thinly veneered pagan Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn-devil worship rituals of the flesh.
http://www.petewaldo.com/children_flesh.htm

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/25/middleeast/hajj-pilgrimage-stampede/index.html

" (CNN)A day after a deadly crush killed 717 people during the Hajj in Saudi Arabia, a critical question remained Friday: What caused the chaotic stampede?

Among the suggested causes: pilgrims rushing to complete the rituals, heat, masses of faithful pushing against each other in opposite directions, even confusion among the many first-timers on the annual Islamic pilgrimage to Mecca and Mina.

Among the suggested causes: pilgrims rushing to complete the rituals, heat, masses of faithful pushing against each other in opposite directions, even confusion among the many first-timers on the annual Islamic pilgrimage to Mecca and Mina.

Too many people, too little time

More than 2 million Muslims from around the world are in Saudi Arabia for the Hajj, a pilgrimage that all Muslims who have the financial and physical ability make at some point in their lives.

The millions of people must perform a litany of rituals in five days, including the symbolic stoning of the devil in Mina, about 2 miles away from the Mecca holy site.

That's where the deadly stampede took place Thursday, the third day of the five-day event. Officials say 717 people died and 900 were injured.

Iran's semiofficial FARS news agency said that 131 Iranians were among the dead. Another 365 remained missing, the state-run IRNA news agency reported, cautioning against assuming they have died."

""As our group started to head back, taking Road 204, another group, coming from Road 206, crossed our way," said another worshipper, Ahmed Mohammed Amer.

"Heavy pushing ensued. I'm at a loss of words to describe what happened. This massive pushing is what caused the high number of casualties among the pilgrims.""

(In other words, they behaved as Muhammad's followers could be expected to.)

"The millions of people must perform a litany of rituals in five days, including the symbolic stoning of the devil in Mina, about 2 miles away from the Mecca holy site.
That's where the deadly stampede took place Thursday, the third day of the five-day event. Officials say 717 people died and 900 were injured."

"Hundreds of other pilgrims have been killed during the same ceremony in years past. But Thursday's disaster was the deadliest at Mina since 1990, when 1,426 people died."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/25/middleeast/hajj-pilgrimage-stampede/index.html

And then there were the Hajj riots of 1987 that killed 400:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_Mecca_incident#Aftermath

Etc. etc. etc. yet people are still foolish enough to waste their money to attend these recycled and thinly veneered pagan Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn-devil worship rituals.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1226.msg4731#msg4731

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Re: 717 people dead: What caused the Hajj stampede?
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2015, 08:28:46 AM »
More about the specific ritual of casting stones, that it would seem Muhammad borrowed from the Zoroastrians.
http://www.petewaldo.com/id47.htm#casting_stones

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Re: 717 people dead: What caused the Hajj stampede?
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2015, 11:04:43 AM »
A history of some of the incidences:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incidents_during_the_Hajj

Including disease:
"Mingling of visitors from many countries, some of which have poor health care systems still plagued by preventable infectious diseases, can lead to the spread of epidemics. If an outbreak were to occur on the road to Mecca, pilgrims could exacerbate the problem when they returned home and passed their infection on to others. This was more of a problem in the past. One such disease, which has prompted response from the Saudi government, is meningitis as it became a primary concern after an international outbreak following the Hajj in 1987."