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Muhammad's Heaven
« on: August 20, 2009, 07:23:13 AM »
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Let's look at the kingdom of God:

Romans 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

Now let's consider Mohammed's promise of heaven.
Please read these amazing passages for yourself.
You can check three English versions of the Quran, side by side, at USC.

Quran verse numbers appear, after each item detailed, below.


Let's look at sura 56:
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/056.qmt.html

We find companions of the right hand, companions of the left hand, and those foremost and nearest to Allah. It begins by describing the latter group in gardens of bliss,(12) seated on thrones encrusted with gold and precious stones,(15) being served by perpetually fresh youths,(17) from goblets, shining beakers, and cups, filled from clear flowing fountains,(18) who won't even feel any "after-ache" from it, let alone intoxication.(19) Also any kind of fruit one chooses to select(20) and - get this - the flesh of any fowls that one desires!(21)

That's right. It would seem a chicken in every pot!

Yusuf Ali: And the flesh of fowls, any that they may desire.
Pickthal: And flesh of fowls that they desire.
Shakir: And the flesh of fowl such as they desire.

Of course enjoying the above with multiple companions that have beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes (22) like pearls.(23) No frivolity or ill but only the saying "peace! peace".(26)

The "right hand" companions will be among trees and flowers with clustered plantains.(29) Lots of extended shade, (perhaps to avoid sunburn),(30) next to water flowing constantly,(31) with abundant fruit(32) that is always in season and never forbidden,(33) and Mohammed's followers will be seated on "thrones (of dignity)" raised high.(33)

Self-importance through a false sense of self-righteousness would seem key.

For them is also created special companions that we have "made them virgin - pure (and undefiled), beloved (by nature), equal in age"(37) as companions of the right hand.(38)

Now what will the companions of the "left hand" face? They will be in a fierce blast of fire and boiling water(42) in shades of black smoke(43) with nothing to refresh.(44) Filling their insides with the tree of zaqqum(52) (which must not be a good thing), and washing it down with boiling water,(54) drinking with the gusto of a raging diseased camel.(55) And that's just for "entertainment"!(56)


To some this might suggest the imagination of the child-like mind of a 6th century illiterate.

Then in Mohammed's mind-numbingly repetitive habit it's back to the ones nearest to Allah enjoying plenty of rest and relaxation in a garden of delights(89) with salutations of "Peace be unto thee" offered by the companions of the right hand.(91)

And again, for those who don't follow the false prophet, more "entertainment" by way of drinking boiling water(93) and burning in hell fire.(94)


Let's look at sura 83:
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/083.qmt.html

By verse 16 those deniers of Mohammed get to enter Mohammed's "fire of hell"(16) as they are told: "This is the (reality) which ye rejected as false!".(17)

Christians understand the Quran is false, but understand from the bible that there are consequences for disobeying God. Like for following a single 6th century false prophet that was, and taught, the exact opposite of the Word of God.

By verse 21 again we find the "righteous", on couches, or thrones,(23) "beaming brightness of bliss"(24) with thirst "slaked with pure wine" sealed(25) with musk(26) mixed with tasnim.(27) And of course a water spring.(28)

On their thrones of dignity they will command a sight of all things(23) - perhaps including those poor stricken down, that didn't believe in Mohammed.


In sura 76:
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/076.qmt.html

For Mohammed's deniers are "prepared chains, yokes, and a blazing Fire."(4)

But in the next verse, for the righteous, "a cup (of wine) mixed with kafur"(5) - a fountain, where the drinking by Mohammed's devotees make it flow unstinted.(6) By verse 11 bliss, a garden, and garments of silk.(12)

That's has got to be a relief for Muslims who have a preference for natural fibers!

They will see neither the sun's excessive heat nor the moon's excessive cold.(13)

Making Mohammed's heaven perhaps more of a regional phenomenon, appealing to desert dwelling illiterates, that were suffering the frigid nights and blistering days, of their local environs.

In the garden the fruit will hang low with "humility".(14) Amongst them round vessels of silver and goblets of crystal(15) will be passed around and they will determine the measure thereof.(16) And then given a cup of wine mixed with zanjabil.(17) And of course yet another fountain.(18) And again the perpetual youth servants(19) only this time dressed in "green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade" and the youths will be "adorned with Bracelets of silver" and "their Lord will give to them to drink of a Wine Pure and Holy."(21) Does that make the wine that flows in the rivers unholy?

Wine is prohibited for Muslims in this life but apparently a real treat in heaven. Perhaps a device to keep an army sober, yet ready to commit suicide in battle, to hasten the hereafter? Think Jonestown.


In Sura 47
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/047.qmt.html

Verse 15 covers the whole gamit in a parable of the garden with rivers of water, and rivers of milk "of which the taste never changes" (so apparently milk doesn't go sour in heaven), plus rivers of wine, and rivers of honey pure and clear, and all kinds of fruit.

Compared to those that don't follow Mohammed who dwell for ever in the fire, and are given - you guessed it - boiling water to drink "so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)".

In Sura 3:15, 198 and  4:57 we find gardens with rivers of water flowing under them. In 15:45 we find gardens with fountains of clear flowing water.


In conclusion, are we to believe that this frequently recurring theme of running, flowing and fountain water is a coincidence, considering Mohammed was a desert dweller?

Heaven is rivers of wine?
What if one doesn't like plantains?
Chicken for vegetarians? What kind of fun is that?

What else does Mohammed offer his followers besides food and drink that was scarce? Elevated "thrones of dignity" decorated with gold, and bejeweled. Shade from sun. Relief from the desert cold nights and blistering hot days. Multiple virgin sex partners. Fresh young servants in green silk, and brocade, with silver bracelets.
Silver cups. Crystal goblets. Silk clothing.

Might the Quran seem a transparent effort to persuade 6th century desert dwellers into believing that they were doing God's service, by murdering poets and plundering caravans, beginning the imperialistic slaughter of the Islamic First Jihad?

Offering those desert dwellers not only the promise of Mohammed's carnal heaven, but while on earth a god that sanctions murder, and the theft of the property of others stolen through imperialistic conquest, with a whole sura titled "Spoils of War, Booty".
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/008.qmt.html

That "booty" including sexually enslaving women taken as spoils of war, and even prostituting them.

Surah 24:33 ... Force not your slave-girls to whoredom that ye may seek enjoyment of the life of the world, if they would preserve their chastity. and if one force them, then (unto them), after their compulsion, lo! Allah will be forgiving, Merciful.

So when your slave-girls do not desire chastity pimp them out for gain, but even if your force them, Allah is forgiving.


But what about Muslim women in heaven?
The same short stick they suffer in this world, or do they get big eyed virgins too?
An objective person can see that Mohammedanism is about men, at the expense of women.


Gold, silver, crystal, jewels, silk, wine, servants, false "dignity" through false perception of self-righteousness. These are the things that Satan lures men on this earth with, to divert them away from the kingdom of God.

Mohammed's is a purely carnal heaven that even includes multiple virgin sex partners. Is the kingdom of God about the flesh? Will we really need shade in heaven? Fruit, wine, and chickens? Not according to the Word of God.

Romans 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

For those interested in Mohammed's heaven, I'd recommend moving to California.

It is amazing that so many adults have trouble seeing Mohammed's as a transparent effort. To a non-Muslim these passages would seem consistent with the imagination of the child-like mind of a 6th century illiterate. To a Christian they might seem that, as well as exhibiting considerable, Satanic influence.

A good video here: "Islamic heaven - sex wine 72 virgins 300 boys"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-OTE-RY8pE

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