Daniel 9:27......"he"......

[shorttribber]

After searching this site some I can't find seem to find what the consensus is who the "he" is ....

I understand the "he" as Christ....I'm primarily historicist in general.

I'm assuming most on this site feel the same on this but wanted to find out 

[Peter]

After searching this site some I can't find seem to find what the consensus is who the "he" is ....

I understand the "he" as Christ....I'm primarily historicist in general.

I'm assuming most on this site feel the same on this but wanted to find out  

As a historicist you are a bit more in the same gear as most of the Christian respondents in this forum, at least in regard to already having a continuous-historic or linear-historic view, for both Old and New Testament prophecy (as opposed to futurist, preterist or idealist).
I would, however, recommend that you read "The False Prophet" for one view as to how the day-year language of prophecy may be applied to the book of Revelation. It's absolutely free, and fun to read. Brother Skolfield has been writing about the central role of Islam in end-time prophecy for over 30 years.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/contents_tfp.htm
A summary of some of the day-year problems is presented here
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm
After reviewing that summary a link is offered to Daniel's 70 weeks further down the page, but I highly recommend that you don't begin there, as this is a brick by brick empirical argument, to which Daniel's 70 weeks is best understood in conclusion.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/daniel_s_70th_week.htm

[shorttribber]

I've read much of it already and have not found an answer to my question.....who is the "he" referencing in 9:27?

[Peter]

I've read much of it already and have not found an answer to my question.....who is the "he" referencing in 9:27?

I provided a link to your answer in my prior post.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/daniel_s_70th_week.htm

[shorttribber]

According to the information you've given the sacrifice ends at 688AD....they did not sacrifice until then did they (the Jews)...............   or are you referring to the spiritual sacrifices of the Coptic Christians?

I see prophecy as layers within layers and this is certainly one of them

I see the strongest evidence that the primary understanding of the Confirmation of the covenant as belonging to Christ....although as i said i do believe there are wheels of prophecy within wheels.

[Peter]

According to the information you've given the sacrifice ends at 688AD....they did not sacrifice until then did they (the Jews)...............   or are you referring to the spiritual sacrifices of the Coptic Christians?

I see prophecy as layers within layers and this is certainly one of them

I see the strongest evidence that the primary understanding of the Confirmation of the covenant as belonging to Christ....although as i said i do believe there are wheels of prophecy within wheels.

According to that link, the 70 "weeks" are a period of 2520 prophetic years, so the middle "day" is as relative as the whole. But before we go further into, perhaps the most contentious passage in scripture, without you having yet finished The False Prophet, please let me inquire about some more basic elements.
Who is "The" (if "the") "Antichrist", and who is "the false prophet" of the book of Revelation, according to your current understanding?

[shorttribber]

I think it's (fals prophet)as you suggest.......i see all you have suggested as very relevant...and agree with the "spirit" fulfilment of what you've suggested ....i just see there will also be a physical fulfillment that will occur.


And soon......my hope is that many will SEE the dome for what it is and Islam.

[Peter]

I think it's (fals prophet)as you suggest.......i see all you have suggested as very relevant...and agree with the "spirit" fulfilment of what you've suggested ..

How is the - very much physical 7th century - false prophet Muhammad a "spirit fulfillment" of THE false prophet of the book of Revelation?

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

..i just see there will also be a physical fulfillment that will occur.

And soon......my hope is that many will SEE the dome for what it is and Islam.

[shorttribber]

Many parts are.....very many....I'm referring to the final curtain call..... the grand finale.......that you and many also of the Historicists, as you and i are in part, see as sun and moon symbolisms.

I understand the symbols and they are valid and fulfilled "shadows"......I believe they also will be literally fulfilled.

i believe there will be literally 3.5 years of a SEVEN fulfilled days to come.why would have Christ fulfilled 3.5 literal years in His ministry....there's a reason for it.

I will not disregard you timeframes as irrelevant because that is truly foolish.....but soon I believe you will see 3.5 years  fulfilled also to the DAY.......but ONLY 3.5 not 7.

[Peter]

Many parts are.....very many....I'm referring to the final curtain call..... the grand finale.......that you and many also of the Historicists, as you and i are in part....

I am not a "part" of Historicists or Historicism. From everything I have been able to understand, that doctrine universally holds that the pope, papacy, roman church, is "The" "Antichrist".
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2488.0

So I wouldn't care to be associated with a doctrine like that.

What about my question regarding antichrist?

[shorttribber]

My appologies.....i reffer to the year for a day idea only and nothing more

[shorttribber]

Antichrist?......obama
          Jesus said " I saw satan fall from heaven as barrack(lightening) O(from) Bama (heaven/the hights).

Little too much coincidence for me along with his "assassin" agenda to destroy many nations to establish Islam.....666

[Peter]

My appologies.....i reffer to the year for a day idea only and nothing more

I definitely agree with that, as the reformers did before us.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm#day_year

[Peter]

Antichrist?......obama
          Jesus said " I saw satan fall from heaven as barrack(lightening) O(from) Bama (heaven/the hights).

Little too much coincidence for me along with his "assassin" agenda to destroy many nations to establish Islam.....666

There's been no shortage of folks assigning the role of "The" "Antichrist" to folks throughout the Christian era, but we would appreciate you making a scriptural case for it, rather than presumption.
Here's a thread regarding Revelation Chapter 9 and a video included.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1289.0

[shorttribber]

i just did...........i used Jesus' own words........I'm not saying anything as certain....we will soon see though

And I will repeat....your position is sound and true....but there remains another layer of fulfillment that will come..... I'm 99.9% sure of it.

And as you already know....there are many that have gone into the world....I just believe he will finish the prophecy concerning them all.