chat with ch

[Peter]

And in regard to that stupid video that you sent about Mohammad (pbuh) being a coward, I have seen it before , do you know what is the address to this organization .www.inthenameofAllah.org.. now since Muslims are the only ones that use that , why would a bunch of Arab Christians use that let me see deception, sad , and low way ,,,, and we should trust you ,,,,ha

Mohammed's cowardice is bequeathed to us from your own hadith.

By the way since I have seen this video, and all the misquotations and the many false facts that is based falsely on who ever can write a book. I did send a message back to the maker . With all the false facts that they claimed , his answer was : oh you Muslims just want to say something all the time, ,,,,,,,,weird they couldnt stand up for their claims with a Muslims that responded back at them with the proof,,.......

But I can only take your word for it and you have proven yourself to be disastrously indoctrinated and self-deluded. That's why I prefer this public, though quiet, forum. It provides accountability rather than your own account of some personal messaging that you claim you had in some dark alley.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdnIZLz8yts

I certainly hope you aren't referencing this disastrous (for you) exchange that you had with him on the video comment section itself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE3Lpiv9kO8

I learned something new too. Mohammed exposed his stepson to assassins that were intended for him:

"The Koreishites, finding the prophet had thus entered into a league with those of Yathreb, and that his party at Mecca stuck close to him, determined to assassinate him.[11] Being informed of their designs, he made his escape by throwing, says my author, a handful of dust upon the heads of the infidels; but first having put his own green vest upon Ali, and ordered him to lie down in his place, which he did. The assassins peeped in through a crevice of the door, and seeing the green vest, thought themselves sure of him, till Ali came out in the morning; and then, finding their mistake, sent out parties in pursuit of him. Here Mohammed had a narrow escape. "

...... and this is not something new it happens all the time, and once you put them in the spot light and reveal their lies ,, they disappear .

Trust me. Ahmed's Quran is not going away. Indeed he is more powerful every day. That's the beautiful thing about the truth. He has transcribed it into book forum now too.

For those read-only participants unfamiliar with the channel ch mentions:
http://www.youtube.com/user/AhmadsQuran3

Additionally, my having moved our conversation into here, from the dark alley of personal messaging that you seem to prefer, demonstrates the reverse of your claims. Plus, if you don't join me here, it will suggest that you inherited the very same cowardice that your false prophet suffered from. Truth has nothing to fear.

Ohh yah they are against public debates with known Muslim scholars , because they say they have nothing to prove. Interesting concept

Debate is a fraudulent carnival trick and a panacea for liars as Deedat proves.
When I was in school the state of the art of debate was to convince a room full of people that something was true, that they all should have known is patently false. Debate is the perfect venue for practiced liars like Deedat.
The 500 character rapidly rotating YouTube comment venue is another perfect place for liars.
I have thoroughly exposed Deedat's practiced lies and bible verse of his own creation. If you have the guts, why not come to the rescue of your Islamic liar there:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=35.0

In stark contrast this forum offers the opportunity to take time and research answers in study, before responding to a question. The written record of this forum also offers accountability, because posts can be easily revisited.

I will continue to work my way through your PMs that I have posted in here, after you respond to the few posts above. DO NOT add any new subjects. For quoting instructions go here: http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=39.0

[Peter]

ch wrote:

THIS IS WHAT YOU SAID :

Muslims, or any other Gentiles, must choose between the 1600 year record of the gradual revelation of God to mankind, expressed in His Word through the prophets and legions of witnesses:

Or the 23 year record of the re...



i choose to use all if want to see where the mistakes are made , because if we want to messure things by time , then i should be worshiping the son of Hours, or maybe Mithra of babylon,
really i dont need a book to beleive in an almighty creator of the world, i need the book to guid me to what i can and canot do in life with out suffring in the after life, that simple ,.....

Indeed it is.
1Jo 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] HE THAT HATH NOT THE SON OF GOD HATH NOT LIFE.
Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE, BUT THE WRATH OF GOD ABIDETH ON HIM.    
 Hebrews 10:29 Of HOW MUCH SORER PUNISHMENT, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, WHO HATH TRODDEN UNDER FOOT THE SON OF GOD, and HATH COUNTED THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT, wherewith he was sanctified, AN UNHOLY THING, and hath DONE DESPITE UNTO THE SPIRIT OF GRACE?

You reject the 1600 year record of God for the 23 year record of a 6th century reprobate.

...... becasue if it was left for man kind these rules well change based on who is runing the show , as it was in the time of CEASER of rome ,KISRA of persia ,or Pharoh of egypt , that claimed godhood .
and since we are giving life by god and we end up going back to him to be judged, there for i choose to live by what he wants ,,, and like an athiest said to me once ( your wrong there is no god ) i said thats fine , if your right i would be dead and thats the end of it , but if im right , your screwed .

Perhaps better put, if Mohammed (a guy who violated and bathed with a 9 year old child when he was 53), errr rather, if his wife was right about his meetings with the Jinn in the cave, and he was wrong in his belief that they were jinn, that gave him a record that was perfectly opposed to all of the prophets, apostles, and legions of witnesses of the 1400 year record of God's Word, of the account of the revelation of God that they gave us from mankind's beginnings, until the last apostle died around 95 AD, then who is screwed? Antichrists, whether atheist or Muslim:
1 John 2:22  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].

http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam_the_opposite.htm