Muhammad On Theft

[Peter]

How can a reasonable person imagine that God would nullify the the record of Jesus, as revealed through all of the prophets and witnesses, five centuries later through a common thief that cut himself in for 1/5 of all the property stolen from others - just like a Mafia Don - through common pillage as well as imperialistic conquest.

8 - AL-ANFAL (SPOILS OF WAR, BOOTY)

Sura 8:41 And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Messenger...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwmbRJd_sD8

Do you suppose Allah ever showed up for his share?

Sura 8:69 But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good: but fear Allah: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

Bear in mind that "lawful booty" was not gained in "war", but through imperialistic conquest and slaughter of peaceful peoples, and takeover of foreign lands, pillaging folks property as they went. Indeed the First Islamic Jihad was so heavily laden with property stolen from others when they arrived in Tours France, that it impeded their escape from the hand of Charles "Martel".

That booty including girls and married women of the vanquished.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=456.0

Muslims suggest Mohammed followed Abraham, but how do Abraham and Mohammed stack up? The Islamic record reveals that the theft of the property of others was a motivator for Mohammed attacking peaceful innocent farmers and such.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=951.0

Islam pretends to be a "faith of Abraham", so let's look at what Abraham did, after vanquishing God's enemies (not God's people like Mohammed did), when the vanquished even requested that he take their property.

Genesis 14.20  And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.  21  And the king of Sodom said unto Abram, Give me the persons, and take the goods to thyself. {persons: Heb. souls}   22  And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I have lift up mine hand unto the LORD, the most high God, the possessor of heaven and earth,    23  That I will not [take] from a thread even to a shoelatchet, and that I will not take any thing that [is] thine, lest thou shouldest say, I have made Abram rich:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=951.0

Where does it put Mohammed?

1Cr 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Did Mohammed, the unrepentant thief, inherit the kingdom of God?
How does Mohammed measure up to those verses?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=879.0

earlier video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwmbRJd_sD8

From a great YouTube channel that explores Mohammed through the hadith:
http://www.youtube.com/user/podremvc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwYL3cxHQ3o


Let's explore the rest of sura 8.41 to remove any confusion.

8.41 And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Messenger, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer,- if ye do believe in Allah and in the revelation We sent down to Our servant on the Day of Testing,- the Day of the meeting of the two forces. For Allah hath power over all things.

Of course Mohammed's "Allah" never showed up to collect his portion of Mohammed's 1/5 share of the property stolen from others, so Allah's share was spent on swords so Mohammed could continue to terrorize and torment the Jews, the Quraysh, and any other non-muslims that rejected Mohammed's stand-alone, 7th century, religious invention. And presumably to support Mohammed's bevy of wives, concubines and slaves, since he had no legitimate means of support.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=856.0

Muslims are quick to point out that part of the stolen property was to be offered to "relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer" but that is the way that criminal bosses, have traditionally bought the favor of that portion of their community, that is immoral enough to accept ill gotten gains derived from property that was stolen from others.

Take mob boss "teflon" Don Gotti, for example. He used to throw money around the neighborhood, and the folks in the burrows that were immoral or reprobate enough to accept it, really liked the guy. This, of course, in spite of the fact that they knew full well that he was a murdering thief. The same goes for those that were immoral enough to accept the ill gotten gains, that were offered by Mohammed, who they knew full well was also a murdering thief.

Ishaq:465 "When their wrists were bound with cords, the Apostle was a sea of generosity to us."
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On another campaign
It has been narrated by Ibn 'Umar that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent an expedition to Najd, and I (also) went with the troops. We got camels and goats as spoils of war, and our share amounted to twelve camels per head, and the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) gave an extra camel to each of us.  (Book #019, Hadith #4332)

Old covenant or new, stealing from others is of Satan, and definitely not of God.

Exodus 20:15 Thou shalt not steal.

Is there anything ambiguous about that commandment?

[punisher]

How can a reasonable person imagine that God would nullify the the record of Jesus, as revealed through all of the prophets and witnesses, five centuries later through a common thief that cut himself in for 1/5 of all the property stolen from others - just like a Mafia Don - through common pillage as well as imperialistic conquest.

Muhammad (Peace be Upon Him) was illirate man,He Didn't know How to read and write

 How can u proof form history  that an illiterate who didn't know how to read and write copy the record of Jesus???

He and his follower had rule over the world, a thief can't rule over the world?

Can u prove me from history, How a thief had rule the world???

[Peter]

How can a reasonable person imagine that God would nullify the the record of Jesus, as revealed through all of the prophets and witnesses, five centuries later through a common thief that cut himself in for 1/5 of all the property stolen from others - just like a Mafia Don - through common pillage as well as imperialistic conquest.

Muhammad (Peace be Upon Him) was illirate man,He Didn't know How to read and write

 How can u proof form history  that an illiterate who didn't know how to read and write copy the record of Jesus???

"....copy the record of Jesus...." Is that supposed to be some kind of a sick twisted joke?

Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

He and his follower had rule over the world, a thief can't rule over the world?

Can u prove me from history, How a thief had rule the world???

Your own books show how he did it. By slaughtering innocent people that did not want to convert to Islam. He sent messages out all over Arabia announcing that he was coming, and that if the folks did not want to submit to Islam then he would kill them. He converted all of Arabia this way in his own lifetime. The caliphs that followed him did the same. Murder, rape, pillage and plunder, all the way to France and Austria.

It began with the murder of innocent poets that explored his antics in their poetry.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=127.0

Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464 "The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1263.0

Beheading all the men and boys from 10 years old up, and then stealing all their property, and sexually enslaving their wives and children. Fundamental Muslims still view this slaughter of Jews as one of the proudest moments in Islamic history.

Thus Mohammed was not only a thief, but he was a murderer as well.

[punisher]

Your own books show how he did it. By slaughtering innocent people that did not want to convert to Islam. He sent messages out all over Arabia announcing that he was coming, and that if the folks did not want to submit to Islam then he would kill them. He converted all of Arabia this way in his own lifetime. The caliphs that followed him did the same. Murder, rape, pillage and plunder, all the way to France and Austria.

Ok suppose i believe in ur statement,

Can u please tell me why so many Christian in Europe and America are accepting Islam today,

Who slaughter them???

Who dodge them???

What with them why they are accepting Islam???

If Muhammad was theif, than he had no religion?

it's common Sense? Brother???

[Peter]

Your own books show how he did it. By slaughtering innocent people that did not want to convert to Islam. He sent messages out all over Arabia announcing that he was coming, and that if the folks did not want to submit to Islam then he would kill them. He converted all of Arabia this way in his own lifetime. The caliphs that followed him did the same. Murder, rape, pillage and plunder, all the way to France and Austria.

Ok suppose i believe in ur statement,

You have no choice but to believe my statement because Islamic and secular history support it. It is a MATTER OF HISTORICAL FACT.
http://beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm#daniel_1335_days

Can u please tell me why so many Christian in Europe and America are accepting Islam today,

Who slaughter them???

Who dodge them???

What with them why they are accepting Islam???

Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for WIDE [IS] THE GATE, AND BROAD [IS THE WAY, THAT LEADETH TO DESTRUCTION, and many there be which go in thereat:

All a person has to be is lost and vulnerable to accept false prophets.
The very same reason that the members of Jim Jones cult followed him.

Proverbs 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof [are] the ways of death.

[Peter]

If Muhammad was theif, than he had no religion?

He did. In his earlier years he was involved in moon, sun, star and demon worship with the pagans, like the rest of his family, who were also deeply involved in the occult.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1173.0

it's common Sense? Brother???

The bible explains Mohammed's meeting with that demon in that cave concisely.

2Cr 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

But not only was Mohammed a murderer and a thief, but according to your own books he and his boys were prisoner rapists as well.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=456.0

Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allah�s Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1263.msg5864#msg5864

Tabari VIII:38 "The Prophet selected for himself from among the Jewish women of the Qurayza, Rayhanah bt. Amr. She became his concubine. When he predeceased her, she was still in his possession. When the Messenger of Allah took her as a captive, she showed herself averse to Islam and insisted on Judaism."
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1263.0

So now Mohammed is exposed through your own books as not only a murderer, thief, and prisoner rapist, but a fornicator with concubines as well.

[punisher]

How can a reasonable person imagine that God would nullify the the record of Jesus, as revealed through all of the prophets and witnesses, five centuries later through a common thief that cut himself in for 1/5 of all the property stolen from others - just like a Mafia Don - through common pillage as well as imperialistic conquest.

8 - AL-ANFAL (SPOILS OF WAR, BOOTY)

Sura 8:41 And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Messenger...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwmbRJd_sD8

Do you suppose Allah ever showed up for his share?

Sura 8:69 But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good: but fear Allah: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

Bear in mind that "lawful booty" was not gained in "war", but through imperialistic conquest and slaughter of peaceful peoples, and takeover of foreign lands, pillaging folks property as they went. Indeed the First Islamic Jihad was so heavily laden with property stolen from others when they arrived in Tours France, that it impeded their escape from the hand of Charles "Martel".

That booty including girls and married women of the vanquished.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=456.0

1Cr 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

How does Mohammed measure up to those verses?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=879.0

earlier video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwmbRJd_sD8

From a great YouTube channel that explores Mohammed through the hadith:
http://www.youtube.com/user/podremvc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwYL3cxHQ3o


Let's explore the rest of sura 8.41 to remove any confusion.

8.41 And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Messenger, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer,- if ye do believe in Allah and in the revelation We sent down to Our servant on the Day of Testing,- the Day of the meeting of the two forces. For Allah hath power over all things.

Of course Mohammed's "Allah" never showed up to collect his portion of Mohammed's 1/5 share of the property stolen from others, so Allah's share was spent on swords so Mohammed could continue to terrorize and torment the Jews, the Quraysh, and any other non-muslims that rejected Mohammed's stand-alone, 7th century, religious invention. And presumably to support Mohammed's bevy of wives, concubines and slaves, since he had no legitimate means of support.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=856.0

Muslims are quick to point out that part of the stolen property was to be offered to "relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer" but that is the way that criminal bosses, have traditionally bought the favor of that portion of their community, that is immoral enough to accept ill gotten gains derived from property that was stolen from others.

Take mob boss "teflon" Don Gotti, for example. He used to throw money around the neighborhood, and the folks in the burrows that were immoral or reprobate enough to accept it, really liked the guy. This, of course, in spite of the fact that they knew full well that he was a murdering thief. Just like those that accepted the ill gotten gains that were offered by Mohammed, who was also a murdering thief.

Ishaq:465 "When their wrists were bound with cords, the Apostle was a sea of generosity to us."

Old covenant or new, stealing from others is of Satan, and definitely not of God.

Exodus 20:15 Thou shalt not steal.

Is there anything ambiguous about that commandment?

It seem you are showing your self as and Agent of Answering Islam and stupidity of Ali Sina

Let see what Ali Sina Got in his dirty faith, My Dear Always think before copying and pasting

When Ali Sina talks about looting, he is making it seem like the Muslims went around and invaded villages and people solely in order to gain their war booty. He is making it seem like the Muslims were pirates wandering around and pillaging innocent people and stealing their valuables. This is far from the truth. If the Muslims ever waged war or invaded anyone, it was due to self defense or if there was evidence that the other side would attack and the Muslims would attack first for military advantage.

[AnnaMuslim]

   
Muhammad the Thief
- on: February 02, 2010, 05:31:13 AM -
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How can a reasonable person imagine that God would nullify the the record of Jesus, as revealed through all of the prophets and witnesses, five centuries later through a common thief that cut himself in for 1/5 of all the property stolen from others - just like a Mafia Don - through common pillage as well as imperialistic conquest.

8 - AL-ANFAL (SPOILS OF WAR, BOOTY)

Sura 8:41 And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Messenger...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwmbRJd_sD8

Do you suppose Allah ever showed up for his share? Sura 8:69 But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good: but fear Allah: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. Bear in mind that "lawful booty" was not gained in "war", but through imperialistic conquest and slaughter of peaceful peoples, and takeover of foreign lands, pillaging folks property as they went. Indeed the First Islamic Jihad was so heavily laden with property stolen from others when they arrived in Tours France, that it impeded their escape from the hand of Charles "Martel". That booty including girls and married women of the vanquished. http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=456.0

I would like to strongly urge the writer of this highly opinionated drivel to tell everyone the entire story rather than do snippets of misinformation. This is not the scholarly etiquette of a discussion but a false accusation and a gross misrepresenation of ISLAM. THIS IS THE STYLE OF THE JEWS AND THE CHRISTAINS THAT HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO INTEREST IN THE TRUTH!!!

CITE one story of common pillage !

No-ONE EXCEPT JEWS AND CHRISTIANS NULLIFY GOD"S SCRIPTURES!!!
FIRSTLY THE JEWS REJECTED THE MESSIAH SENT TO THEM
THE CHRISTIANS THEN WENT COMPLETELY AGAINST GOD"S 3500 YEAR RECORD OF SAYING THAT ALL OF MANKIND IS CREATED FROM ADAM AND EVE AND ANYONE BORN OF MAN IS THE SON OF MAN> THE REJECTION COMES IN THE FORM OF A MAKING A PROPET INTO A GOD? GOD"S SON? SON OF GOD' THAT IS THE WORD THAT IS THE SPIRIT OF GOD? GOD HAS A SPIRIT< MAN HAS A SPIRIT? CONFUSING
WELL GODS RECORD IS NOT" HEAR O YE ISRAEL YOUR LORD GOD IS ONE!


THE BOOTY falsification:
READ THE HISTORY OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD (MAY the PEACE of ALLAH be UPON HIM), he live with the least amount of pomp and glory and had very little of his own, most if not all was given in Charity (for ALLAH).

ALL THE CONQUESTS WERE OF BENEFIT TO THE COUNTRY INVADED< UNLIKE ANY CONQUEST BEFORE< NOTHING WAS STOLEN AND IF THE WRITER TOOK THE TIME AND CARE TO TELL THE STORY HE WOULD CLEARLY SHOW

Every country invaded benefitted from the invasions.

1Cr 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

TRULY LOOK AT WH THE UNRIGHTEOUS ARE< BE NOT DECEIVED
adultery and fornication is an everyday occurrence in the countries with Muslim minorities, Peter points out "honor killings" In Islamic countries woman and men are put to death for fornicating, well look at the rates of adultery and prostitution in countries with no Islam. as Peter so rightfully pointed out that it is legal in Holland!!
Abusers of themselves? Drunkards, alcoholics, criminals?
Thieves could possibly be Europeans invading the America's, GOD (Missionaries to scout and spy) GOLD(reports from the missionaries) GUNS(Christian Armies invading to plunder and steal the Gold for GOD and Country?
Extortioners are Easy (BANKS charging interest) Enron and company stealing pensions and Share monies, TAXES? Islamic Countries can only charge 2.5% of wealth not Income.Zakaat.

HOW MUCH MORE PROOF DO NEED TO BELIEVE THAT PETER IS AN OPINIONATED FRAUD?

[Peter]

   
Muhammad the Thief
- on: February 02, 2010, 05:31:13 AM -
Quote
How can a reasonable person imagine that God would nullify the the record of Jesus, as revealed through all of the prophets and witnesses, five centuries later through a common thief that cut himself in for 1/5 of all the property stolen from others - just like a Mafia Don - through common pillage as well as imperialistic conquest.

8 - AL-ANFAL (SPOILS OF WAR, BOOTY)

Sura 8:41 And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Messenger...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwmbRJd_sD8

Do you suppose Allah ever showed up for his share? Sura 8:69 But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good: but fear Allah: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. Bear in mind that "lawful booty" was not gained in "war", but through imperialistic conquest and slaughter of peaceful peoples, and takeover of foreign lands, pillaging folks property as they went. Indeed the First Islamic Jihad was so heavily laden with property stolen from others when they arrived in Tours France, that it impeded their escape from the hand of Charles "Martel". That booty including girls and married women of the vanquished. http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=456.0

I would like to strongly urge the writer of this highly opinionated drivel to tell everyone the entire story rather than do snippets of misinformation. This is not the scholarly etiquette of a discussion but a false accusation and a gross misrepresenation of ISLAM. THIS IS THE STYLE OF THE JEWS AND THE CHRISTAINS THAT HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO INTEREST IN THE TRUTH!!!

CITE one story of common pillage !

My friend, it cannot be argued that this is how the Islamic first jihad was financed all the way to France and Austria.

Ishaq:465 Then the Apostle divided the property, wives, and children of the Qurayza among the Muslims. Allah's Messenger took his fifth of the booty. He made known on that day the extra shares for horses and their riders - giving the horse two shares and the rider one. A Muslim without a horse got one share of the spoil. It was the first booty in which lots were cast.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1528.0

THE BOOTY falsification:
READ THE HISTORY OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD (MAY the PEACE of ALLAH be UPON HIM), he live with the least amount of pomp and glory and had very little of his own, most if not all was given in Charity (for ALLAH).

Surely you can't be that ignorant. Folks work all their lives just to support a single wife. According to "Jesus and Muhammad" by Mark A. Gabriel Mohammed kept male and female slaves. Gabriel graduated #2 out of a class of 6,000 at Al-Azhar University in Egypt - the most prestigious Islamic university in the world.

Chapter 16 page 183
Muhammad's other women

"In addition to his wives, Muhammad had another group of women at his disposal. These were the female slaves whom he had purchased or acquired as prisoners of war. All slaves, whether male or female, were referred to in Arabic as milkelimen. The male slaves would serve Muhammad by doing chores such as taking care of Muhammad and his wives, their houses, and their animals. They would prepare food and bring the water for washing before prayers. Forty-three of these male slaves are listed by name in Islamic history.

The female slaves performed chores as well, but Islamic law also permitted Muhammad to use them sexually without being required to marry them. Any resulting child would not carry the name of Muhammad or take any inheritance from him. The child would be a slave to Muhammad, not his son, and Muhammad had the right to keep him or to sell him. (Islamic law allowed milkelimen for any Muslim man). Twenty-three of these female slaves are listed by name in Islamic history." 22 Ibn Kathir, The Beginning and the End

Now how do you suppose Mohammed supported all those wives, and concubines and slaves to fornicate with?
Did he have a 9 to 5 job? I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't keep more slaves than most plantation owners in the South. Do you think it's free to support a legion of servants like that?

[Peter]

ALL THE CONQUESTS WERE OF BENEFIT TO THE COUNTRY INVADED< ......

Sure! Just like today.
AP - December 06, 2006 MOGADISHU, Somalia - "Residents of a southern Somalia town who do not pray five times a day will be beheaded, an Islamic courts official said Wednesday, adding the edict will be implemented in three days."

....... UNLIKE ANY CONQUEST BEFORE< NOTHING WAS STOLEN AND IF THE WRITER TOOK THE TIME AND CARE TO TELL THE STORY HE WOULD CLEARLY SHOW

Surely you can see how foolish the delusion you suffer under is, when a whole chapter of the Quran is titled "8. AL-ANFAL (SPOILS OF WAR, BOOTY)
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/008.qmt.html

It even details Mohammed's 1/5 share of the stolen property, just like a Mafia Don.

Sura 8:41 And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Messenger...

Every country invaded benefitted from the invasions.

Oh yea. The Europeans got a great deal by exchanging their well developed cultures and freedom to be ruled over by a bunch of Arabian pagans and be forced to pay a jizya tax to them, to advance ever more Islamic rape, pillage and plunder of Islamic imperialistic conquest. Some real benefits there!

1Cr 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

TRULY LOOK AT WH THE UNRIGHTEOUS ARE< BE NOT DECEIVED
adultery and fornication is an everyday occurrence in the countries with Muslim minorities, Peter points out "honor killings" In Islamic countries woman and men are put to death for fornicating, well look at the rates of adultery and prostitution in countries with no Islam. as Peter so rightfully pointed out that it is legal in Holland!!

There you go! Now you're talking! Let's kill all those dirty fornicators!

Abusers of themselves?

And homosexuals too!

Drunkards, alcoholics, ...

Why should we allow any drunks or alcoholics to live either! Let's kill 'em all!

Here are some, what can only be referred to as animals, in action.

Now the Christian viewpoint.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=877.0

.... criminals?

Darn! The difficulty with this one in Islam, would be that you would have had to have started with Mohammed.

[Peter]

Thieves could possibly be Europeans invading the America's, GOD (Missionaries to scout and spy) GOLD(reports from the missionaries) GUNS(Christian Armies invading to plunder and steal the Gold for GOD and Country?

We've been over and over this. Where in the Gospel does it call for the Roman Catholic Church rape, pillage, plunder and murder of Muslims, Jews AND CHRISTIANS?

You see? That's the difference. The Quran sanctions the theft of other people's property because that is how Mohammed supported he and his boys and financed his army.

1Cr 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Are you heading to the same place that Mohammed went? Forever is a very long time, my friend.

Extortioners are Easy (BANKS charging interest) Enron and company stealing pensions and Share monies, TAXES? Islamic Countries can only charge 2.5% of wealth not Income.Zakaat.

HOW MUCH MORE PROOF DO NEED TO BELIEVE THAT PETER IS AN OPINIONATED FRAUD?

I'm sure many of the Muslim read-only participants are beginning to have the veil lifted, and the scales begin to fall from their eyes, and I deeply appreciate the help Anna!

[AnnaMuslim]

AAH the arrogance of Peter, you are the cause of veils to lift? I'm sure many of the Muslim read-only participants are beginning to have the veil lifted, and the scales begin to fall from their eyes, and I deeply appreciate the help Anna!

THE HEARTS OF MAN is in the control of ALLAH, that heart must yearn for guidance and the light to penetrate, otherwise that heart is following its own misguided desires.

BELIEV ME WHEN I TELL YOU THE NOTIONS YOU FOLLOW SO APPEALS TO ONES EVIL DESIRES THAT A WEAK PERSON< MOST CHRISTIANS USUALLY HAVE A SOB STORY TO TELL< I WAS THIS AND THAT AND I DID THIS AND THAT AND I AS ABUSED AND HELP CAME AND I TURNED>

MUSLIMS GENERALLY HAVE A SOBRE SPIRITUAL APPROACH TO THE ENTIRE RELIGION> (SOME DO GET INFLENCE BY SECTARIANISM OBVIOUSLY)

[Peter]

AAH the arrogance of Peter, you are the cause of veils to lift?

Of course not. Only Jesus Christ can lift that veil.
I simply expose Muslims to the Scriptures and Gospel they have never seen, that some that have been lied to enough times, and are naive enough to not even know, that they reject.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1175.0

Also help them see the eternal consequences of rejecting God to follow the false prophet Mohammed and his "Allah".

Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

[AnnaMuslim]

1Cr 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

TAXATION OF THE POOR IS LEGAL EVERYWHERE EXCEPT IN ISLAMIC COUNTRIES, (ACCEPTABLE BY CHRISTIANS)
PROSTITUTION AND EXTRAMARITAL AFFAIRS GO UNPUNISHED IN MOST NON MUSLIM COUNTRIES (NOT A CRIME)
LAWS REGARDING DRESS CODE OR EXPLOITATION OF WOMAN DOES NOT EXIST OUTSIDE-MUSLIM COUNTRIES.
ALCOHOL IS LEAGAL IN MOST NON-MUSLIM COUNTRIES, AND THERE IS NOPROHIBITION ON DRINKING (WINE WAS CONSIDERED HOLY IN THE TIME OF JESUS)
INTEREST RATES AND INTEREST BEARING LOANS IS THE WAY OF LIFE FOR MOST NON MUSLIMS (FORBIDDEN IN ISLAM BUT ACCEPTABLE IN Christianity).

The kingdom of god JANNAH heaven, paradise, place of peace. Darus salaam Place for MUSLIMS!

[Peter]

1Cr 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

TAXATION OF THE POOR IS LEGAL EVERYWHERE EXCEPT IN ISLAMIC COUNTRIES, .......

The jizya tax imposed on Jews and Christians in Islamic countries is imposed on all men over the age of puberty.

....... (ACCEPTABLE BY CHRISTIANS)
PROSTITUTION AND EXTRAMARITAL AFFAIRS GO UNPUNISHED IN MOST NON MUSLIM COUNTRIES (NOT A CRIME)
LAWS REGARDING DRESS CODE OR EXPLOITATION OF WOMAN DOES NOT EXIST OUTSIDE-MUSLIM COUNTRIES.
ALCOHOL IS LEAGAL IN MOST NON-MUSLIM COUNTRIES, AND THERE IS NOPROHIBITION ON DRINKING (WINE WAS CONSIDERED HOLY IN THE TIME OF JESUS)
INTEREST RATES AND INTEREST BEARING LOANS IS THE WAY OF LIFE FOR MOST NON MUSLIMS (FORBIDDEN IN ISLAM BUT ACCEPTABLE IN Christianity).

None of the above has anything to do with the subject of this thread which is Mohammed's thievery.

The kingdom of god JANNAH heaven, paradise, place of peace. Darus salaam Place for MUSLIMS!

Ah yes! Mohammed's chicken and wine serving men's club bordello he called "paradise".
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=264.0

Also off topic.

[Peter]

http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_16_Mein_Kampf.Islam

Qur'an 59:6 "What Allah gave as booty to His Messenger, He has taken away from the Jews. For this you made no raid. Allah gives His Messenger Lordship over whom He will. Whatever booty Allah has given to Muhammad and taken away from the (Jewish) people of the townships, belongs to Allah and to His Apostle.... So take what the Messenger assigns to you, and deny yourselves that which he withholds. And fear Allah, for He is severe in Punishment."

This all-in-one Islamic verse is the reason the "religion" cannot be fixed. It features: racism, violent hostility, banishment, destruction, thievery, wrath, terror, forced exile, severe punishment, and threats for those who resist. A doctrine this perverse will continue to fester and grow. It will infect men's minds and souls until the whole world is consumed in war.