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brianwfarmer

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666 - Mark of the BEast
« on: February 02, 2012, 08:06:25 PM »
I know this is an old and odd topic, but I really think I have solved the numerical meaning of 666, and Walid Shoebat confirms (yet he is in correct that it is not also a number).

See my write-up on my blog.

http://www.brianwfarmer.com/blog.html

Below is what is at the blog, without the hyperlinks.

The number of the beast, 666, is an indicator or pointer to the beast's ruling throne. It points to Islam, for Ali's reign ended
upon his death 666 Hebrew years after Christ's birth.

18 Shevat 3755 (birth of Christ) = Februrary 4, 6 BC (Saturday, Sabbath)
              +  666
                 -----
18 Shevat 4421 (death of Ali)    = January 27, 661 AD (Sunday, also Jesus' Resurrection day)



Now, let me explain.




Walid Shoebat's explanations of the Mark of the Beast support my finding, yet he is incorrect about one main point.
Before I get into the correction, here is what he says about the Mark of the Beast in the original script:

1) Arabic from right to left reads, "In the name of Allah". (Variations of Greek for this symbol over time, but what was it at the time of the writing of Revelation?)
Islam Symbol (The Serpent with ruling staff or rod, Satan)
Iranian Flag (The Serpent has four curls or cresents, with staff)
2) Islam symbol of crossed-swords (also similiar to Swastika)
Muslim Brotherhood Party Logo
3) Islam symbol of crescent moon (I think this is questionable as far as being in the original Greek (icon really with this, not text), comes from Codex 1957)
Turkish Flag

He is incorrect when he says that the original text is not in Greek and is not a number. The original text is both Greek and Arabic. God's word has truths
simultaneously in parallel, at times; that seem contradictory but are not.
Greek reading left to right, as that book is in Greek; and that specific text states in Greek the Mark of the Beast is a number. Furthermore, if it was only
a literal number, then it would not need to state that it is a number. It is also backwards in Arabic. If only a literal number was used, then there would
not have had been this dual meaning in both Greek and Arabic at the same time. The mark is the name (Allah) or the number of its name ("In the name of Allah" with crossed-swords).

Just a clarification about item 3. See The Interlinear Bible Hebrew-Greek-English (ISBN: 0-913573-25-6) and you will only see text, which are items
1 and 2. The number 666 is from items 1 (two pieces, "in the name of" and "Allah" ) and 2, and these also form the common Islam phrase in Arabic and the
common Islam sybmol of crossed swords. 3 is really an icon or drawing that is not in the Interlinear Greek. Is there a crescent moon symbol that appears in
Greek and/or Arabic, or does this icon only appear in Codex 1957? I am not saying the Bible has errors.




How is the number 666 also the Mark of the Beast?

It is the time in years from the birth of Christ (when His earthly throne started, thru David's throne), to the death of Ali (when his throne ended). 666 Jewish
calender years or creation years. Jesus' birth instead of crucifiction, because He represents life not death. Ali's death instead of birth, because he represents
death not life. Ali is the Seal of "True Believers" (Awliyaa), the one to show proof of "allegiance" (Wilaya) to in order to be spared from death.

Islam declares :
'- No one crosses the Path except by a passport from Ali:

Anas Ibn Malik narrated:
"When Abu Bakr neared death,..., Abu Bakr said that he heard the
Messenger of Allah saying: That there is an obstacle on
the Path which no one crosses unless with a passport (permission)
from Ali Ibn Abi Talib. And I heard the Messenger of Allah
saying: "I am the seal of the prophets and you, Ali,
the seal of the Awliyaa."

Imam Ali narrated:
The Messenger of Allah said: "When Allah gathers the
first-ones and the last-ones on the Day of Judgment, and the Path
has been erected on the bridge of Hell, no one can cross it
unless he had along proof of allegiance (Wilaya) to Ali Ibn Abi
Talib."'


Therefore, with the Beast; Ali represents the seal of controlling, leading , and guiding mankind through Islam by his seal or the Mark of the Beast. Muhammad only established Islam among mankind as Satan's mouthpiece. Ali represents enforcement of Islam, Satan's deceit. Islam declares that Ali is " the Seal of the guardians and successors.

'Imam means a person who is appointed by God as a leader and as a guide (see
Quran 21:73 and 32:24) to whom obedience is due, and whom people should
follow. Messengers are Warners and Imams are Guides (13:7). Imams are the
Stars of Guidance (6:97).'

Revelation 13:16-17
16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads,
17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or[f] the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

The Seal of Ali (the Mark of the Beast) controls people's ability to purchase and even live or die. 666 shows who are the "true believers"
and the sword enforcement, with its "In the Name of Allah" along with crossed-swords or just Allah. Just use the Iranan emblem, and
you have the Mark of the Beast for the name of the Beast, mixed with a sword or crossed-swords. Here is where we see simultaneously what I
mentioned earlier, both Greek and Arabic meaning both the number 666 and the very common "In the Name of Allah". Note also, the Iranian emblem
included a Lion for Ali (Lion of Allah) from 1400s to 1979.

Another point
Ali is from the seed of Ishmael. Ishmael is the seed of doubt. Christ is from the line of Isaac, Isaac is the seed of faith. Abraham's seed was bifurcated.
Ali is known as the Seal or ender of Islam rule, at least with the Sunnis; and his rule ended upon his death.
Note also that Ali, Twelver's 1st Imam and Sunnis' last " Righly-Guided Caliphs "; was the first Muslim believer (lineage is typcally with males in scripture) upon hearing the "Messenger" (Muhammad).





What is the derivation of this 666?


Subtract exactly 666 Jewish years from Ali's death.

18 Shevat 4421 (death of Ali)    = January 27, 661 AD (Sunday, also Jesus' Resurrection day)
              -  666  (pointer or mark)
                 -----
18 Shevat 3755 (birth of Christ) = Februrary 4, 6 BC (Saturday, Sabbath)

The subtraction must be performed in Jewish years.


Now use this web site's calendar converter

18 Shevat 3755 Jewish year
is
Februrary 4, 6 BC (Gregorian year or western year)

Shevat is the Jewish new year festival for trees, Tu Bishvat . Non-Jews celebrate this month as Arbor Day, by planting trees.
Preparing His earthly vessel of death, during His earthly vessel of birth.

It is interesting to see that nine months before this time (Jesus' Holy conception), is the month celebrating the Second Passover by the Lamb, Pesach Sheni. This
would make Jesus' Holy conception the month of Iyyar, and in a leap year.
The Second Passover represents second chances - the time for His blood to cleans us by the Holy Spirit because we were unclean at the appointed time of cleansing.

Sivan 3753 (John's Father, Zacharias; starts his temple duty about 7th Sivan. Finishes about 14th Sivan)
Tammuz 3753
Av 3753
Elul 3753
Tishri 3754
Heshvan 3754
Kislev 3754 (The month I propose John was conceived)
Tevet 3754
Shevat 3754
Adar I 3754 (Added only in a leap year)
Adar II 3754 (Just Adar when not in leap year)
Nisan 3754
Iyyar 3754 (The month I propose is Jesus' Holy conception)
Sivan 3754
Tammuz 3754
Av 3754
Elul 3754
Tishri 3755
Heshvan 3755
Kislev 3755
Tevet 3755
Shevat 3755 (The month I propose Jesus Christ is born)




Some references:


The 1st Imam's (Ali, per Shi'a) end of rule, which occured upon his death; can be found on the two links below:

Twelver
Ali

According to Chronology of Man by Bill Bonnett , the conception of Jesus would have occured in 7 B.C. because of the timing of John the Baptist's
father exiting his temple service.
Bonnett says the birth of Christ was 15 Tishri 3755 (October 6, 7 BC - Gregorian), if John the Baptist was conceived just days after his
father leaves from finishing his temple duties, and if Jesus' term was 11 months. That is 4 months before Februrary 4, 6 BC.

Februrary 4, 6 BC is Jesus' birth date if John was conceived about 6 months after his father left from his temple duties, and if Jesus'
term was 9 months. Jesus was conceived during Elizabeth's 6 month of her pregancy carrying John the Baptist. Mary was in a hurry to visit Elizabeth.
Luke 1:24 says, "And after those days...". Is it more likely that Elizabeth conceived in days, not 6 months after her husband's return from
her husband's temple duties? NIV says, "After this...". Also, how accurate is the Islamic's date of Ali's death?

Recall that Sarah became pregnant far more than days or months after Abraham was told Sarah would give birth to a son. They even lost their patience.

The modern search for the Star of Bethlehem began with Johannes Kepler before Christmas in 1603, observing a conjunction (pairing) of Jupiter
with Saturn from his observatory in Prague. Not only does a conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn foretell important events, but in Pisces this holds a
special significance for Israel; and such an event might even foretell the coming of the Messiah. Kepler then calculated that such a conjunction in
Pisces had occurred in 7 B.C., followed by Mars joining Jupiter and Saturn in Pisces, in early 6 B.C. This led him to date the conception of Mary in
7 B.C. and the birth of Christ in 6 B.C. NASA has honored Kepler with a search of their own, but man centered rather than God centered.

Two books appeared in 1999. Michael Molnar's The Star of Bethlehem : The Legacy of the Magi , and Mark Kidger's The Star of Bethlehem.
Molnar proposes April 17, 6 B.C. as the birth of Christ, and Kidger says that it must have occurred around 6-5 B.C.



Since the wise men (men who have understanding, Revelation 13:18 ) and Herod used the signs in the heavens to find the time and location of Christ's birth,
isn't it possible the sign or Mark of the Beast is also in the heavens as its indicator with time and location? Ali's death or another date?




Please e-mail me, if you can correct or confirm any of my findings. brian_farmer@yahoo.com






Related questions:


Is the 12 Imam (Shi'a) the Beast?

And here is one example of President Obama's strange support of Islam, this time with Zakat


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Re: 666 - Mark of the BEast
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2012, 10:45:07 PM »
Hi Brian and welcome to the forum! :)

It's fun to see 666 gematria in some of Muhammad's own followers words:
http://www.66619.org/index2.htm
http://www.66619.org/thequran.htm

http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam__quran_and_666.htm

OK if I move your thread to Judeo/Christian General?

Is the 12 Imam (Shi'a) the Beast?

To suggest prophecy in the Quran has any validity would be to credit the Quran with divine inspiration. Since the source of the Quran is Satanic we should more likely expect the opposite of what Muhammad said to be closer to the truth.

Besides, how does a lion, bear and leopard fit in with that?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=12.0

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Re: 666 - Mark of the BEast
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2012, 07:01:44 PM »
By the way. I'd like to encourage you to read the fun free book "The False Prophet" by Ellis Skolfield. For over 30 years brother Skolfield has written about the role of Islam in bible prophecy.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/the_false_prophet.htm

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Re: 666 - Mark of the BEast
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2012, 12:43:50 AM »
Yes, move this thread to Judeo/Christian General please.