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Re: Yet another YouTube channel comment chat with our Muslim Imam friend np
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2009, 09:27:06 AM »
 np33123 (15 hours ago)

PeteWaldo is that your answer ? That answer is so weak . But how can you answer things which you don't know . Weak is your knowledge PeteWaldo very weak .? In your eyes you think you are great but in reality you know nothing .


np33123 (13 hours ago)

The miracles of prophet Moses and prophet Jesus Christ are in the HISTORY , but the MIRACLE? which was given to prophet Muhammad is 1431 years old
and it is still in effect till the end of the World and that is the QUR'AN !


np33123 (11 hours ago)

What the word God means ? Do that mean YHWH (? I AM WHO I AM ) ?


np33123  (11 hours ago)

THAT WAS THE REASON? THEY PUT IN HIS VACCINE A LOT OF MERCURY TO DESTROY HIS BRAIN AND TO HAVE STROKE ! NOT JESUS CHRIST PUNISHMENT ! WATCH THE VIDEO :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw50ZDhL8K0&feature=related

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Re: Yet another YouTube channel comment chat with our Muslim Imam friend np
« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2009, 09:29:08 AM »
PeteWaldo (11 seconds ago)

"In your eyes you think you are great but in reality you know nothing ."
In my eyes I am? just a lowly sinner, my friend.

The only miracle regarding the Quran is that somebody would fail to recognize that the Quran is the EXACT OPPOSITE of the Gospel, and recognize it's murdering, raping, thief prophet, as the antichrist evil that they are.

Regarding the "Word" - John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

The word "God" as used in scripture is a generic term for the deity of Christians and Jews whose name is YHWH - "I AM".
The word "god" as used in Islam describes a god named "Allah" that archaeological evidence suggests was the name of the moon god of the Kaaba in Mecca.

 PeteWaldo  (1 second ago)

Did I ever suggest that Deedat's paralysis was the result of God's punishment on him? No. Here's why
(I just pasted this verse a few posts ago. Why not try reading it this time.)

Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

You see? Rain falls on the just, and it also falls on unjust antichrist liars like Ahmed Deedat.
Please watch the featured video on this page wherein I expose Deedat's fraud and deception, perpetrated on his poor deluded, adoring, bible ignorant, minions.

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Re: Yet another YouTube channel comment chat with our Muslim Imam friend np
« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2010, 12:57:00 PM »
np33123 (4 days ago)

The word "God" as used in scripture is a generic term for the deity of Christians and Jews whose name is YHWH - "I AM".( IN HEBREW LANGUAGE YES BUT NOT IN ENGLISH , JESUS CHRIST DID NOT CALL YHWH WITH THE WORD GOD WHICH WORD HAS A LOTS OF MEANINGS AND NOTHING TO DO WITH YHWH . TODAY JEWS NEVER CALL YHWH WITH THE WORD GOD EVEN THEY SPEAK ENGLISH THEY CALL HIM (HASHEM ) JESUS , HE DID NOT SPEAK ENGLISH HE SPOKE HEBREW , ARAMAIC AND IN ARAMAIC HE CALLED YHWH ( ALLAHA) !
The word "god" as used in Islam describes a god named "Allah" that archaeological evidence ( SHOW ME THAT EVIDENCE )suggests was the name of the moon god of the Kaaba in Mecca. THAT'S WHY THE MOON GOD WHO SEND THE QUR'AN COMMANDS IN THE QUR'AN ..." DON'T WORSHIP THE SUN , THE MOON AND THE STARS BECAUSE I AM THEIR CREATOR ..." !

 np33123  (3 days ago)

Didn't God know by giving to Adam and Eve free will that gonna put them to great trouble ? If He God knew that , then why He gave that free will to them and to us ? To send his son to be our Savior ? Man you can believe what ever you want .You believe in the ALLEGORY i believe in the REALITY !

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Re: Yet another YouTube channel comment chat with our Muslim Imam friend np
« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2010, 12:58:31 PM »
np33123 (2 days ago)

Also i want to mention here that , prophet Muhammad did not die from the poisoned meat which the Jewish woman prepared for him and his companions to kill all of them , but he died 4 years later at age 62 from different thing .( ALLAH asked him if he wants to live more on the Earth He will give him long live but he decide to die and to go to the HEAVEN to be together with ALLAH and to RULE his UMMAH from there till the end of the days ! ) That poison my friend was so powerful he should die in 5 minutes but he die 4 years later from different thing ! If he was not with SUPPER NATURAL POWER what do you think can he survive that long ?


np33123 (2 days ago)

PeteWaldo can you tell me why the Jews are using on their NATIONAL flag the six pointed star ( as SYMBOL )what is represents ?


np33123 (2 days ago)

WHAT RABBI SAY ABOUT ISLAM ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfByvw_jomo?

   

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Re: Yet another YouTube channel comment chat with our Muslim Imam friend np
« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2010, 12:58:53 PM »
 PeteWaldo  (2 days ago)

Hey np, why don't you come help poor formy. He's drowning in Mohammed's religion.
Just like you, he can't explain why it is that he follows an unrepentant thief.
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=873.0

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Re: Yet another YouTube channel comment chat with our Muslim Imam friend np
« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2010, 12:59:31 PM »
np33123 (1 day ago)

I can not see your comments of that what i sent you below . Why ?
   
np33123 (1 day ago)

Hey np, why don't you come help poor formy. He's drowning in Mohammed's religion.
Just like you, ( LIKE ME ? ) WOW ! he can't explain why it is that he follows an unrepentant thief. I DID EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY I AM FOLLOWING THE HOLY AND THE LAST PROPHET MUHAMMAD ! WHY YOU ARE NOT HAPPY WITH YOUR RELIGION AND YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE ME CHRISTIAN LIKE YOU ?HELP THE JEWS? TO BECOME CHRISTIANS !
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=873.0
   

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Re: Yet another YouTube channel comment chat with our Muslim Imam friend np
« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2010, 01:00:25 PM »
PeteWaldo (1 day ago)

"I can not see your comments of that what i sent you below . Why ?? "
Because it is completely unimportant and distracts you from the truth. Why don't you help poor formy? Because you are helpless yourself.

Mohammed didn't die of poison because the guy that he was with did, and so Mohammed spit it out before it barely touched his lips. Even so, the Quran records that he complained of the poisoning for the next few years before he met his early, and untimely death, in a whimper, from a fever. Some say it was the effects of the poison. Personally it's irrelevant to me.
But it was a particularly unseemly death for someone? that was so good at handing off his sword, and sending others out to be killed, in his place.
watch?v=MG1MiLqH0jc


PeteWaldo (1 day ago)

Of what relevance is a symbol made by men?
Of what relevance are the words of a still sovereignly blinded Jew on Islam?
Let's get into the Word of God and the Quran.
Why don't you quit being a coward and join us in the forum. Poor formy could really use the help of an imam
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=873.0
   
PeteWaldo (1 day ago)

"Hey np, why don't you come help poor formy. He's drowning in Mohammed's religion.
Just like you, ( LIKE ME ? ) WOW ! he can't explain why it is that he follows an unrepentant thief. I DID EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY I AM FOLLOWING THE HOLY AND THE LAST PROPHET MUHAMMAD !

But you never explained why you would follow an unrepentant thief, much less a prisoner raping, child doing, fornicating, murderer, any more than formy has.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=873.msg3537#msg3537

   

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Re: Yet another YouTube channel comment chat with our Muslim Imam friend np
« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2010, 01:01:28 PM »
 np33123  (20 hours ago)

IF I AM BLIND FOR THE TRUTH LIKE YOU ARE THEN I SHOULD ASK YOU : WHY YOU ARE BELIEVING IN ONE BOTTOM GAY WHO NEVER HAD WIFE AND CHILDREN AND NORMAL MAN LIFE WITH WOMAN ? WHO HAD NO POWER TO ANSWER THE QUESTION OF HIS DISCIPLES WHEN WILL BE THE LAST DAY AND HE SAID ONLY GOD KNOWS THAT . WHY YOU ARE FOLLOWING THE BIBLE WHICH IS THE BOOK OF EVIL AND THAT GOD THERE IS BIPOLAR DISCRIMINATOR ? HOW CAN YOU BELIEVE IN MOSES WHO WAS A MURDERER ? HOW CAN YOU BELIEVE IN KING DAVID WHO WAS A MURDERER? ? HOW CAN YOU FOLLOW JESUS CHRIST WHO DID NOT WIN AGAINST SATAN TILL TODAY WHAT HIS BLOOD WAS SHED FOR ? WHERE IS HIS GLORY ? ARE THOSE THINGS TRUE ? IF THEY ARE NOT THEN HOW CAN BE TRUE THE THINGS WHICH YOU JUST WISH TO BE TRUE ?
BE LBIND PHYSICALLY AND SPIRITUALLY FOREVER ! AMEN !

np33123 (20 hours ago)

But you never explained why you would follow an unrepentant thief, much less a prisoner raping, child doing, fornicating, murderer, any more than formy has.
UNREPENTANT THIEF ? A PRISONER ? CHILD DOING ? FORNICATING ? MURDERER ? WOW ,WOW , WOW . ( con........ ) :


np33123 (20 hours ago)

BE BLIND PHYSICALLY AND SPIRITUALLY FOREVER AMEN !
   
np33123 (12 hours ago)

But it was a particularly unseemly death for someone that was so good at handing off his sword, and sending others out to be killed, in his place.
( YOUR god JESUS CHRIST WAS POWERLESS ON THE CROSS BUT HE DID RISE FROM THE DEATH AND IS STILL POWERLESS TO DEMOLISH SATAN FROM WITHIN FOR 2010 YEARS ) !
IN OUR HOLY QUR'AN IS SAID ..." EVERY SOUL WILL TASTE THE DEATH ...." ! ) IN ISLAM WE HAVE THE GREAT SECRET ABOUT EVERYTHING WHICH YOU CHRISTIANS AND JEWS DON'T KNOW AND HAVE NOT IDEA OF THAT WHAT WE KNOW ! STILL BELIEVE IN YOUR DELUSION !
   
 np33123  (12 hours ago)

Mohammed didn't die of poison because the guy that he was with did, and so Mohammed spit it out before it barely touched his lips.( YOU REALLY MADE ME LOUGH LISTEN PETEWALDO BEFORE YOU START TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING YOU MUST HAVE FULL KNOWLEDGE OF THAT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. OF COURSE PROPHET MUHAMMAD ATE FROM THE POISONED MEAT AND HE SAID TO HIS COMPANIONS NOT TO EAT BECAUSE THE MEAT IS POISONED , AND I THINK YOU SHOULD KNOW THE REST OF THAT STORY ) .? Even so, the Quran records that he complained of the poisoning for the next few years before he met his early, and untimely death, ( REALLY ? WHAT KIND OF FAKE STORY YOU ARE TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO ME ? YOU HAVE NOT IDEA WHY HE DIED AND WHAT WAS THE REAL REASON FOR HIS DEATH . DON'T YOU REMEMBER WHAT ALLAH ASKED HIM , IF YOU RED THE RIGHT HADITH ? ) in a whimper, from a fever. Some say it was the effects of the poison. Personally it's irrelevant to me. (CONT.) :

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Re: Yet another YouTube channel comment chat with our Muslim Imam friend np
« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2010, 01:03:01 PM »
PeteWaldo (4 hours ago)

[[[[UNREPENTANT THIEF ?]]]]
A whole chapter on stealing the property of others and references outside that chapter as well.

[[[[[A PRISONER (raping)?]]]]]
"O prophet! We have made lawful to thee ... those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war

[[[[[CHILD DOING ?]]]]
You cannot deny that Mohammed did Aisha when she was 9 years old because your own books confirm it.



PeteWaldo (4 hours ago)

[[[[[ FORNICATING ?]]]]
With concubines. Tabari IX:147 "A eunuch named Mubur was presented to Muhammad along with two slave girls. One he took as a concubine, the other he gave to Haasn."

[[[[[[ MURDERER? ?]]]]]
It began with the murder of poets and escalated into pillage and plunder of caravans and then beheading 600 to 800 Jewish boys and men farmers and continued from there.

[[[[[ WOW ,WOW , WOW . ( con........ ) : ]]]]]
Indeed! Your "prophet" not mine.
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PeteWaldo (4 hours ago)

[[[YOU REALLY MADE ME LOUGH LISTEN PETEWALDO BEFORE YOU START TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING YOU MUST HAVE FULL KNOWLEDGE OF THAT WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.]]]

Don't be silly. You know that the reason you are too much of a coward to join me in the forum is EXACTLY because Mohammed's own record exposes him as being EXACTLY as I characterize him. That's why you have to cower and hide in YouTube bits and pieces instead of having a real conversation.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=856.0

That's why you couldn't go to poor formy's aid when he was left drowning in Mohammedanism.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=873.0
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Re: Yet another YouTube channel comment chat with our Muslim Imam friend np
« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2010, 01:03:31 PM »
 
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PETEWALDO LOOK THE SYMBOL OF THE JEWISH NATIONAL FLAG IS PAGAN :
The Star ( or Shield ) Of David is no? where Mentioned in Biblical Scriptures as a Sign or Symbol for Hebrews. The so-called " star of David " is actually the six pointed star of the god Remphan and it is associated, with the worship of the system of Baal and Ashtoreth or Moloch.
The prophet Amos denounces the true Hebrews who had fallen into this idolatry practice in (Amos 5:21-27) This is the same star of Rempham which St. Stephen accused "? The high priests , Saducees and scribes ,of worshiping


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ALSO WHEN YOU GIVE EXAMPLES FROM THE HOLY OF THE HOLIEST BOOKS THE QUR'AN ? OR THE HADITHS PLEASE DON'T SAY THE THINGS OUT OF CONTEXT .
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Re: Yet another YouTube channel comment chat with our Muslim Imam friend np
« Reply #35 on: January 04, 2010, 01:03:51 PM »
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Where does the bible instruct Jews how to make a flag? Men will be men np. Some even follow a murdering thief.
See how you try to run and hide from truth by trifling in subjects of irrelevance?

And there IS NO CONTEXT under which a God would condone prisoner rape, pillage, plunder, theft, murder, fornication, and a 53 year old man? violating a 9 year old girl, as demonstrated by one of the blackest hearts in human history.

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Re: Yet another YouTube channel comment chat with our Muslim Imam friend np
« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2010, 06:15:49 PM »
 np33123  (4 hours ago)

Even now in 21 century in the hot countries like ( Egypt, Israel, Arabia, Africa etc. ) to marry girl which is 9 years old is not criminal . It shows you are not that intelligent what you are trying to make your self. You have not real knowledge about how the woman body in the hot counties is growing fast . I have two wives the first one was 15 years old when i marry her the second one was 11 years old and at age 12 she gave birth to my second? son . What is the problem with that ?

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Re: Yet another YouTube channel comment chat with our Muslim Imam friend np
« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2010, 06:17:59 PM »
PeteWaldo (3 minutes ago)

[[[Even now in 21 century in the hot countries like ( Egypt, Israel, Arabia, Africa etc. ) to marry girl which is 9 years old is not criminal . It shows you are not that intelligent what you? are trying to make your self.]]]]

What it perfectly shows is that you, my friend, are blinded by Satan, just as your false prophet Mohammed was.
Do you realize that you never - even for a moment - stopped to wonder what the 9 year old girl might want? How the 9 year old girl might feel about being defiled by a filthy 53 year old lecher?
Daniel prophesied this of Mohammed

Daniel 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women....

 PeteWaldo  (1 minute ago)

You see? You, just like your false prophet, you have? no regard whatsoever for what a girl or woman might desire.
That's why women in Islam, are nothing more than the property of men, who assign them their lives. Fathers or brothers will decide who they will date, or who they will marry. And if the girl doesn't like it, or fall in love with someone else, then their own father or brother may stomp and stab them to death to preserve their honor.
If the wife wants a divorce her husband might behead her like the founder of Bridges TV in New York.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=honor+killing+islam&search_type=&aq=f
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/women_in_islam.htm

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Re: Yet another YouTube channel comment chat with our Muslim Imam friend np
« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2010, 07:10:21 PM »
 np33123  (16 minutes ago)

Daniel 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women....
THAT MY FRIEND IS NOT ABOUT MUHAMMAD , BUT ABOUT THE DADJAL =THE ANTICHRIST WHO IS JEW FROM THE TRIBE OF DAN HE WILL BE THE WORLD PRESIDENT NOT MUHAMMAD OR ANY OTHER MUSLIM LEADER ! PLUS THE ANTICHRIST WILL BE HOMOSEXUAL MOSTLY BOTTOM GAY ! YOU WILL SEE THAT WITH YOUR OWN EYES . I TOLD YOU IN ISLAM WE KNOW SECRETS WHICH YOU EVEN CAN NOT IMAGINE .

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Re: Yet another YouTube channel comment chat with our Muslim Imam friend np
« Reply #39 on: January 04, 2010, 07:11:12 PM »
 PeteWaldo  (6 seconds ago)

Trying to hide in a fantasy doesn't change how Mohammed and you are blinded by Satan to the desires of women.
The same reason 21st century Muslim men, can't even begin to imagine, why a wife wouldn't want to compete with three other wives, for the affection of one man.

Islam's "secret", my friend, is that Satan is it's founder.

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Re: Yet another YouTube channel comment chat with our Muslim Imam friend np
« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2010, 08:23:58 AM »
 np33123 (12 hours ago)

who assign them their lives. Fathers or brothers will decide who they will date, or who they will marry. ( PLEASE DON'T GIVE ME EXAMPLES OF PEOPLE WHO DID NOT LEARN AND UNDERSTAND ISLAM AND THEY ARE PRACTISING THE LAW OF THEIR TRIBE ) . And if the girl doesn't like it, or fall in love with someone else, then their own father or brother may stomp and stab them to death to preserve their honor.
If the wife wants a divorce her husband ( YES SHE CAN GET IT EASY BY GOING TO THE MUFTI AND EXPLAINS THE PROBLEM ) might behead her like the founder of Bridges TV in New York. ( ONLY BLIND FANATICS WHO NEVER UNDERSTAND THE RIGHT TEACHINGS OF ISLAM CAN DO SUCH A THINGS ) !
   
np33123 (12 hours ago)

who assign them their lives. Fathers or brothers will decide who they will date, or who they will marry. ( PLEASE DON'T GIVE ME EXAMPLES OF PEOPLE WHO DID NOT LEARN AND UNDERSTAND ISLAM AND THEY ARE PRACTISING THE LAW OF THEIR TRIBE ) . And if the girl doesn't like it, or fall in love with someone else, then their own father or brother may stomp and stab them to death to preserve their honor.
If the wife wants a divorce her husband ( YES SHE CAN GET IT EASY BY GOING TO THE MUFTI AND EXPLAINS THE PROBLEM ) might behead her like the founder of Bridges TV in New York. ( ONLY BLIND FANATICS WHO NEVER UNDERSTAND THE RIGHT TEACHINGS OF ISLAM CAN DO SUCH A THINGS ) !

np33123 (12 hours ago)

who assign them their lives. Fathers or brothers will decide who they will date, or who they will marry. ( PLEASE DON'T GIVE ME EXAMPLES OF PEOPLE WHO DID NOT LEARN AND UNDERSTAND ISLAM AND THEY ARE PRACTISING THE LAW OF THEIR TRIBE ) . And if the girl doesn't like it, or fall in love with someone else, then their own father or brother may stomp and stab them to death to preserve their honor.
If the wife wants a divorce her husband ( YES SHE CAN GET IT EASY BY GOING TO THE MUFTI AND EXPLAINS THE PROBLEM ) might behead her like the founder of Bridges TV in New York. ( ONLY BLIND FANATICS WHO NEVER UNDERSTAND THE RIGHT TEACHINGS OF ISLAM CAN DO SUCH A THINGS ) !
   
np33123 (9 hours ago)

Prophet Muhammad was not the first prophet to have more than one wife:
PeteWaldo how the wives of those prophets compete with each other ?
1. Prophet Abraham: 3 wives (Sarah, Hagar, Caesura).
2. Prophet Jacob: 4 wives (Lea, Zelda, Rachael, Palma).
3. Prophet Moses: 4 wives (Safire, Gibshia, bint Kini, bint Hobab).
4. Prophet David: 9 wives.
5. Prophet Solomon: 700 wives and 300 slaves.

np33123  (9 hours ago)

6- Zainab bint Khozaima.
7- Juwairiah bint Al Hareth.
8- Maria
9- Um Salama Hind bint Suhail
10 - Safeia bint Akhtab
11 - Um Habiba Ramla bit Aby Sufian.
12- Maimona bint Al Hareth.

np33123 (9 hours ago)

The last and the real Prophet Muhammad P.B.U.H .
Never was married to 12 wives at the same time:

1- Khadija bint Khowailed.
2- Sawda bint Zamaa.
3- Aisha bint Abu Baker.
4- Hafsa bint Omar
5-? Zainab bint Jahesh.
   
np33123 (8 hours ago)

If Jesus Christ doesn't have wife and was not married that doesn't mean all Jews , Christians , Muslims must be like Him . We don't know why He was like that only YHWH = ALLAH knows that? secret . Here i want to mention and to say to PeteWaldo that , Allah doesn't mean YHWH but God doesn't mean that EITHER , but ALLAH means THE GOD in ARABIC THIS RICH LANGUAGE MORE HIGH THAN HEBREW language ! PeteWaldo you MUST know that fact we HUMANS are created by the CREATOR PSYCHO - SEXUAL BEINGS and You are not able to change that !

np33123 (12 hours ago)

You see? You, just like your false prophet, you have no regard whatsoever for what a girl or woman might desire.( HOW I SAID THEY ARE NOT CHILDREN? HOW YOU THINK , THEY HAVE DIFFERENT MIND THAN YOUR CHRISTIAN CHILDREN IN THE COLD WEATHER COUNTRIES ) . EVEN SOME OF THE CHRISTIAN CHILDREN IN AFRICA THEY CAN MARRY AT AGE 9 , 11,12, ETC. BUT YOUR LAW DOESN'T ALLOW THAT IT IS CRIMINAL FOR YOU.
That's why women in Islam, are nothing more than the property of men, ( TOTALLY FALSE , MY WIVES ARE FREE TO GO IF THEY ARE NOT HAPPY WITH ME FOR SO MANY YEARS , WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL ISLAMIC LAW ABOUT THIS MATTER ) CONT. :

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Re: Yet another YouTube channel comment chat with our Muslim Imam friend np
« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2010, 08:28:01 AM »
 PeteWaldo (1 hour ago)

I can see why you were desperate to flush away the truth to successive pages.
But every one of your comments again reinforce, that you still remain completely blind to the point.
And now that you admit that you are a polygamist yourself, I can see why you refuse to see the truth.
Is being screwed by a 53 year old man WHAT A 9 YEAR OLD GIRL WANTS?
Is competing with other wives for one man's attention, what wives really want?

PeteWaldo (1 hour ago)

Reprobates following your false prophet, dredge up 3000 year old passages from scripture, and pretend that the historical record of how people lived when we were desert dwelling nomads, applies to the 21st century lust filled men. Are the old covenant Jews polygamists today? No. Rabbinic Judaism has outlawed the practice, because they are with God, and they understand the desires of women, and care about their women more than themselves.

Muslim males, preoccupied their own 21st century lusts, don't even stop to understand that 3000 years ago men were slaughtered by the tens of thousands, leaving lots of women without the prospect of a husband to protect and care for them, because there were too many women.

Today in the world, THERE ARE MORE MEN than women - OF MARRYING AGE - and so for every filthy old lecher that takes to himself 4 wives, 3 young men will have to do without. Same thing as being a pig at the dinner table.

PeteWaldo (57 minutes ago)

Solomon a prophet. That's hilarious! According to the record and the people that are actually OF the old covenant (the Jews) Solomon followed other gods which automatically disqualifies him from any suggestion of prophet hood.
But then Mohammed created his own god:
Daniel 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers....

Just more foolish misunderstanding resulting in more nonsense from Mohammed, like his goof-up indicating that Abraham and Nimrod were contemporaries, even though the historical record shows that they didn't live within 700 years of each other.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=861.0

PeteWaldo (24 minutes ago)

While we are on the subject of Islamic abuse of women, let's talk a little about rape in Islam.

"O prophet! We have made lawful to thee ... those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war ... for believers [at large]; we know what we have appointed for them ... the captives whom their right hand possess...(Sura 33:50-51)

Are Muslims to believe that women would be interested in consensual sex with? their captors, that had just murdered their fathers, husbands and sons? That would be preposterous, of course. It could only be construed as rape.

PeteWaldo (23 minutes ago)

Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 522:? Narrated Anas bin Malik:We arrived at Khaibar, and when Allah helped His Apostle to open the fort, the beauty of Safiya bint Huyai bin Akhtaq whose husband had been killed [by Mohammed's men when they attacked that peaceful Jewish farming community] while she was a bride, was mentioned to Allah's Apostle. The Prophet selected her for himself, and set out with her, and when we reached a place called Sidd-as-Sahba,' Safiya became clean from her menses then Allah's Apostle married her.

PeteWaldo (23 minutes ago)

24: ...The Muslims said amongst themselves, "Will she (i.e. Safiya) be one of the mothers of the believers, (i.e. one of the wives of the Prophet ) or just (a lady captive) of what his right-hand possesses" Some of them said, "If the Prophet makes her observe the veil, then she will be one of the mothers of the believers (i.e. one of the Prophet's wives), and if he does not make her observe the veil, then she will be his lady slave.".....

PeteWaldo (19 minutes ago)

Surah 4:24 Also (prohibited are) women already married, EXCEPT those whom your right hands possess:...

Are Muslims to believe that God would sanction the rape of captured still-married women as well?

Sura 24:33:...But force not your maids to prostitution WHEN they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=456.0

Let alone prostituting out one's sex slaves?
Women and girls were just more stolen property - more "spoils of war and booty" of imperialistic conquest - according to Mohammed.

PeteWaldo  (2 minutes ago)

For those wondering what Mohammed meant by "....and when Allah helped His Apostle to open the fort....", an example is Mohammed's attack on the peaceful farming community of the Qurayza
Tabari VIII:38 "The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims."
Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464 "He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."
And of course Mohammed a big fan of the "spoils of war - booty"
Tabari VIII:38 "The Prophet selected for himself from among the Jewish women of the Qurayza, Rayhanah bt. Amr. She became his concubine.

 PeteWaldo  (1 second ago)

[[[[[If the wife wants a divorce her husband ( YES SHE CAN GET IT EASY BY GOING TO THE MUFTI AND EXPLAINS THE PROBLEM ) ]]]]]]

That's hilarious. And if the Mufti says he doesn't buy her problem she can go back home and have her husband beat her (like the woman who came to Mohammed complaining of her husband, whose color was described as being green from so much beating, who Mohammed told to go back to her husband).

What does a man have to do to divorce his wife? Say "I divorce you" three times and it's done. In some parts of the world Muslim men are even divorcing their wives by typing that 3 times in a text message. Yahoo it.
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=text+message+divorce&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-832

PeteWaldo  (3 seconds ago)

[[[1. Prophet Abraham: 3 wives (Sarah, Hagar, Caesura).]]]]
More Mohammedan nonsense. Abraham had one wife - Sarah.
Hagar was Sarah's handmaiden through which Sarah encouraged Abraham to have a son, which Hagar did, that was named Ishmael (not unusual to carry on a man's name).
But eventually God did allow Sarah to have a son which they named Isaac. Sarah caught Ishmael mocking Isaac and told Abraham to throw the boy and his mother out of the house. God confirmed to Abraham to do so. After that even God didn't recognize Ishmael as a son of Abraham.
Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only [son] Isaac, whom thou lovest....

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Re: Yet another YouTube channel comment chat with our Muslim Imam friend np
« Reply #42 on: January 05, 2010, 10:04:49 AM »
 PeteWaldo  (3 seconds ago)

[[[1. Prophet? Abraham: 3 wives (Sarah, Hagar, Caesura).]]]]
More Mohammedan nonsense. Abraham had one wife - Sarah.
Hagar was Sarah's handmaiden through which Sarah encouraged Abraham to have a son, which Hagar did, that was named Ishmael? (not unusual to carry on a man's name).
But eventually God did allow Sarah to have a son which they named Isaac. Sarah caught Ishmael mocking Isaac and told Abraham to throw the boy and his mother out of the house. God confirmed to Abraham to do so. After that even God didn't recognize Ishmael as a son of Abraham.
Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only [son] Isaac, whom thou lovest....

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Re: Yet another YouTube channel comment chat with our Muslim Imam friend np
« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2010, 06:58:37 AM »
 np33123  (20 hours ago)

Today 21 st century men is worst than the men who used to dwell in the desert !

np33123 (20 hours ago)

[[[1. Prophet? Abraham: 3 wives (Sarah, Hagar, Caesura).]]]]
More Mohammedan nonsense. Abraham had one wife - Sarah.
Hagar was Sarah's handmaiden through which Sarah encouraged Abraham to have a son, ( THAT LOOKS LIKE ABRAHAM COMMIT ADULTERY WITH SARAH'S PERMISSION JUST TO HAVE SEX WITH THE EGYPTIAN WOMAN HAGAR , AND THEY WERE NOT GUIDED BY YHWH = ALLAH . AND AFTER ISMAIL WAS BORN TO THROW HIM AS GARBAGE AND NOT TO CARE ABOUT HIM ANY MORE , BUT YOU FOR GET WHAT ALLAH = YHWH SAID T O ABRAHAM ..." ISMAIL I WILL NOT FORGET AND FROM HIM I WILL MAKE A BIG NATION ...." IS THAT LIE ? which Hagar did, that was named Ishmael (not unusual to carry on a man's name). CONT......

np33123 (20 hours ago)

But eventually God did allow Sarah to have a son which they named Isaac. Sarah caught Ishmael mocking Isaac( DOESN'T THAT SHOW YOU THE WISE OF THE PROVIDENCE HOW ISMAIL MOCKED ISHAK BECAUSE FROM ISHAK WILL BECOME A NATION WHICH WILL TERRORIZING THE WORLD AND THE REAL AND ONLY ONE ANTICHRIST WILL COME FROM DAN DESCENDANT OF SHAK ) and told Abraham to throw the boy and his mother out of the house. God confirmed to Abraham to do so. After that even God didn't recognize Ishmael as a son of Abraham.( YOU ARE DOING ALL THE TIME GREAT BLASPHEMY AND THE TIME TO PAY FOR THAT IS NEAR JESUS CHRIST WILL BE NOT ABLE TO HELP YOU ! )
Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only [son] Isaac, whom thou lovest.... ( BY MISUNDERSTANDING THOSE WORDS HERE YOU MADE YHWH=ALLAH DISCRIMINATOR ) .

np33123  (19 hours ago)

All examples which you are giving here from the Qur'an or from the hadiths are out of context . And you know that very well , it is not a new thing , that KAFIRS to go against the last prophet Muhammad it start 1431 years a go and will continue to the end till all of you enter the real JAHENNEM / HELL ! Also you had the stupidities to say that King Solomon was not a prophet and he became pagan, worshiping the pagans gods WOW, WOW, WOW you red the Bible and you did not understand it . Is he now in hell ? What is your definition for the prophet ? How about his father David /DAUD was he prophet or no ? Even Samson was he prophet or no ?

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Re: Yet another YouTube channel comment chat with our Muslim Imam friend np
« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2010, 06:59:17 AM »
 PeteWaldo (17 hours ago)

The only other context besides Islam, for murder, fornication, thievery, and pimping out sex slaves is the Mafia.
The only context for marching into a peaceful town, and beheading 6-800 boys and men, then stealing their property, and taking their wives and children as sex slaves, is Mohammed's black heart.

Don't complain about not enough context when you foolishly choose this YouTube sound bite venue, remaining too much of a coward to come into the forum, where we have A LOT MORE CONTEXT.
You are a as much of a coward as your false prophet when it comes to hiding from the truth.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=856.0

PeteWaldo  (16 hours ago)

Of course another thing the Mafia and Islam and all dangerous cults share is the death sentence for leaving.

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Re: Yet another YouTube channel comment chat with our Muslim Imam friend np
« Reply #45 on: January 06, 2010, 07:00:21 AM »
 np33123 (15 hours ago)

I told you 2008 to come to the forum you must send me check for $7000
   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_koNUEUGuI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvz0Cjjcv_k?

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Re: Yet another YouTube channel comment chat (Dec 09) with our Imam friend np
« Reply #46 on: January 06, 2010, 07:02:35 AM »
 PeteWaldo (4 minutes ago)

For Muslim onlookers, since your Imams are this terrified of coming into the forum and having a real discussion, what have they been hiding from you about Islam and the false prophet Mohammed? Even this Imam np33123 mentions secrets of Islam. But many are exposed in the following pages.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=871.msg3576#msg3576

He has yet to defend Mohammed's character, against a single charge I have made, according to Islam's books. That's because Mohammed's character is indefensible. Please browse the prior pages to see how Mohammed is revealed through Islam's own books.
Yet folks like this Imam reject all of the prophets and witnesses as revealed through the 1600 year record of God to mankind, to continue in Mohammed's lies, because he knows that if he leaves Islam, he will be under a death sentence by Muslims, just like when fellow criminals leave the Mafia.
   
PeteWaldo (4 minutes ago)

If you are a Muslim in the bondage of Islam, what do you know about the bible or Christianity, other than what these same Imams - that are so obviously afraid of the truth - have taught you?
Please join us in the forum and learn about the love of the one true God.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=55.0