Another YouTube channel chat (Dec 09) with our Muslim Imam friend np

[Peter]

Peter's preface note

 np is one of those Muslims that claims Islam is peaceful, as a practitioner of the Islamic art of dissimulation. In a prior conversation he did a very good job of demonstrating that the Muslims that pretend peace, are simply content to sit on the sidelines while the fundamentalists, that follow their religion and prophet, do the heavy lifting of murder of non-muslims and global conquest. He wrote

"YOU ARE COWARD WHY YOU DON'T SHOW UP YOUR SELF ON PUBLIC PLACES? WHY YOU ARE AFRAID FROM THE FANATICS? IF YOU ARE REAL BELIEVER IN JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR SAVIOR HE WILL PROTECT YOU FROM THAT KIND OF DEATH WHICH FANATICS CAN GIVE YOU!"
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=361.msg1748#msg1748

He's content to let the fundamentalists that he pretends are "fanatics" engage in Jihad in his place.

Of course even Jesus demonstrated some caution, until His ministry had matured, and He was ready to be crucified.

Jhn 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

If I had preached Jesus in a fundamental Islamic mosque as my opener, and been beheaded at the beginning of my ministry to those poor folks, the video that has attracted almost a quarter million views, with the heaviest traffic coming from the Middle East and Northern Africa, might never have been made.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN-_20sjHVI

Mat 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

Let alone that every day of ministering to Muslims I learn more about Islam and the Word of God.
The conversation began.....
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np33123 (1 week ago)

According to you Islam is false and it is from Satan . Lets now see what is the opinion about the Satan in the Judaism and Christianity . Jews say He is an Angel who was created for that purpose by YHWH .Satan is playing roll as prosecutor he must tempt the people and they say that is YHWH ' S will Satan to do so . Christianity says Satan is fallen Angel who try to go against YHWH which is so RIDICULOUS ! Which one is the right one ? Who is telling the truth ??

np33123 (1 week ago)

How can Jews and Christians to be Friends and brothers , when Judaism till today says Jesus Christ ( Yeshuah Meshih ) is the false Messiah?

np33123 (1 week ago)

There is no concept of Satan in Judaism.
There is no concept of the Devil.
Satan, in Judaism, is an obedient and loyal angel who was entrusted with the critical task of seeking out wrong doing and of challenging the faithful. Notice that Satan did NOT go out on his own accord, but presented accusation (Satan can translate 'adversary' or 'accuser') against Job to G-D and G-D instructed and permitted the Adversary to put Job to the test.

np33123  (1 week ago)

WHAT THE JEWISH RABBI SAYS ABOUT SATAN YOU CAN READ HERE:

http://www.outreachjudaism.org/satan.html

[Peter]

 PeteWaldo (1 week ago)

That was np's response to my comment on his channel:

"It all comes down to a choice, doesn't it. ONE MUST CHOOSE.
Between the God of the Jews and Christians that his people have followed for 3500 years through 2 covenants as detailed in His 1600 year record THROUGH ALL of the prophets and witnesses, or the STAND-ALONE religion of A SINGLE 7th century "prophet" from whom a single prophecy has never been fulfilled, who never performed a single miracle, who not a single person ever heard Gabriel or Allah give a revelation to."
brotherpete. com

He has difficulty figuring out what's "ridiculous". All of the prophets and witnesses - or Mohammed.
I have a considerable history with my friend np the imam, much of which is recorded here:
brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=361.0
I explain to him that he's a Gentile and not a Jew but he apparently keeps forgetting.

PeteWaldo (1 week ago)

A choice between the only person in human history ever to be conceived by a virgin by the will of God as Muslims agree.
The only sinless person in human history, who lives today, as even Muslims agree.

Or a 7th century prisoner raping, murdering, thief, whose corpse still lies rotting in its shallow grave.

Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464 "The Jews were made to come down, and Allahs Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."

PeteWaldo  (1 week ago)

Ishaq:466 "The Apostle chose one of the Jewish women for himself. Her name was Rayhana. She remained with him until she died, in his power. The Apostle proposed to marry her and put the veil on her but she said, 'Leave me under your power, for that will be easier.' She showed a repugnance towards Islam when she was captured."

[Peter]

 np33123  (1 week ago)

PeteWaldo tell me please when Jesus Christ raised from the dead in which body He raised did He raised in the same body or that was some another kind of body ? Did He do to the Heaven with the material body in which he lived on the Earth ?

np33123  (1 week ago)

DEAR VISITORS ON PETEWALDO'S CHANEL  TAKE YOUR TIME AND READ THAT SURA FROM THE HOLY QUR'AN :

http://www.jannah.org/qurantrans/quran59.html

[Peter]

PeteWaldo (1 week ago)

Jesus ascended to the Father and returned in what is referred to as his "glorified body", which was very much physical when He demonstrated to His disciples.

Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

There is no further discussion regarding His physical state before He is described as

Mark 16:19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

PeteWaldo (1 week ago)

To what sura from the Quran do you refer? I refer to many. If folks want to read suras from the Quran they can find videos like "Sum of Islam" and "Islam 101" and in favorites a 2 part "Islam the Opposite" etc. in all of which I compare verses side-by-side and highlight that Mohammed's record is the EXACT OPPOSITE of that revealed through the Word of God. You mean a Sura like this?

Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them

PeteWaldo (1 week ago)

I wrote
"There is no further discussion regarding His physical state...."
But should have said "I am not immediately aware of further discussion...." and there is lots I don't know or remember!

PeteWaldo (1 week ago)

How come you are still too much of a coward to join me in the forum np?? I entered a great new post today on the divinity of Jesus Christ

brotherpete. com/index. php?topic=211. msg3464#msg3464

[Peter]

 np33123 (1 week ago)

Well that means Jesus Christ is in the Astral ( Spirit ) World with His physical body . WOW ! That is really a great MIRACLE !? WOW !

np33123  (1 week ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMtLFWLzJHU&feature=related?

[Peter]

PeteWaldo  (1 week ago)

"Well that means Jesus Christ is in the Astral? ( Spirit ) World with His physical body . WOW ! That is really a great MIRACLE ! WOW !"

For being an imam you don't seem to know much about Islam. Your brethren believe that Jesus was physically, bodily, taken up to God before the cross because of this sura that follows the blasphemous sura denying the crucifixion

4.158 Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-

They even believe He will return in His physical body only to be killed, because of that verse Mohammed lifted from the Egyptian apocryphal fable and Jesus talking as an infant. If you doubt your brethren thought Jesus was physically lifted up it is confirmed many times in this thread from chats I had in a Sunni forum

http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=628.msg2919#msg2919


PeteWaldo  (1 week ago)

Regarding your Yusuf Estes video he is a bigger looser than even Ahmed Deedat. watchv=YDslsWDzPIc
He is one of the guys that was deceived into believing he was a Christian that converted to Islam. The problem is that even in his own testimony he declares that his father and himself were in ministry for the money, so he never was a Christian. Besides the fact that it isn't possible for a Christian to be deceived by a false prophet.

Luke 16:13 No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

[Peter]

 np33123 (1 week ago)

First you did not tell me does Jesus Christ when to the Spirit World with his physical body ? If He is not in the Spirit World then where He is ?

np33123 (1 week ago)

What you gonna do when you hear and see what Jesus Christ will say to prophet Muhammad how He Jesus will kiss and hag Prophet Muhammad ? Where you will go at that time and what you will say then ? All MUSLIMS who were on your channel are witnesses against you and all ALLAH'S angels are too ! Your KAFIR PRIDE will GO TO the REAL HELL with you !

np33123  (1 week ago)

CORRECTION:

BY MISTAKE I WROTE BELOW ( THE WORD HAG ) IT IS HUG


   

[Peter]

PeteWaldo (1 week ago)

You can't read. I said that the last comment I could recall regarded Jesus' physical state as flesh and bones. He had already ascended up to and descended down from heaven. The bible is silent on whether remained in a physical state or whether He can, for example, change from a spiritual state to physical state and back. Since He is God I believe He can do anything he wants.
But perhaps all of us that aren't cast into the lake of fire with Mohammed and his Islamic kingdom beast will have bodies we can assume and leave. The bible is silent on it so perhaps I shouldn't even have speculated on? it.

PeteWaldo (1 week ago)

Sure. Jesus who said
Mat 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Will be kissing and hugging the false prophet Mohammed who said
"...but they killed him not, nor crucified him..."

Guess again
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where THE BEAST and THE FALSE PROPHET [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Please visit "The Beast of Revelation 13" at the top of my videos to get a glimpse at your future.

PeteWaldo  (1 week ago)

Old Testament prophecy

Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Fulfilled in Jesus Christ

Matthew 1:22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, 23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

[Peter]

  np33123 (6 days ago)

The 25 of December is not the birth day of Jesus Christ that day which you Christians celebrate is false !

np33123 (5 days ago)

THE LINK? TO SURAH AS-SAFF:

http://noblequran.com/translation/surah61.html

np33123  (5 days ago)

PETEWALDO YOU ARE CALLING ME COWARD BUT I AM NOT HIDING FROM YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE !
WHY YOU ARE HIDING IF YOU ARE NOT COWARD ? SHOW YOUR SELF ON THE VIDEOS ! YOU ARE LIKE THE EGYPTIAN COWARD WHO DID SO MANY VIDEOS AGAINST ISLAM AND DOESN'T SHOW HIS FACE . IF HE HAS REAL BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST AS HIS SAVIOR THEN THERE IS NOT REASO TO BE AFRAID !

np33123  (5 days ago)

JESUS CHRIST IS GOD , BUT HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THE QUESTION OF HIS DISCIPLES :
CHAPTER 13 /32
"OF THAT DAY AND HOUR KNOWS NO MAN NOR THE ANGELS WHICH ARE IN HEAVEN NOR THE SON , BUT THE FATHER ONLY "
HERE WE CAN SEE THE FATHER IS THE GREAT GOD WHO IS HIDING THAT INFORMATION EVEN FROM THE SON !

[Peter]

PeteWaldo (5 days ago)

np I accidentally removed one of your posts but found it on another browser. You wrote

"PETEWALDO SAID :
I said the bible is silent on Jesus' physical state after He revealed Himself to His Apostles and hundreds of others, as flesh and bones. Since He is God I believe He can do whatever He wants.
np33123 SAID:
IF JESUS CHRIST IS GOD WHY HE NEEDS TO BE BORN FROM VIRGIN WOMAN WHY HE DID? NOT COME WITH THAT BODY OF MAN WHO IS AT AGE 33 YEARS OLD? WHY HE NEEDS TO GROW FROM BABY TO 33 YEARS OLD MAN AND THAN TO SHOW TO THE WORLD HE IS GOD ?"

PeteWaldo (5 days ago)

The answer to those questions is because that is the way God chose to reveal Himself to us. God doesn't "need" anything.
If Jesus hadn't been manifest as a baby in? a virgin, then the Old Testament prophecy that I quoted immediately below, written many hundreds of years before Jesus was manifest, would have been wrong.

PeteWaldo (5 days ago)

"PETEWALDO YOU ARE CALLING ME COWARD BUT I AM NOT HIDING FROM? YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE !"

But you know that's untrue. For long over a year I have invited you to the forum where we can have a substantive discussion, but you prefer this limited character, snipe and run, YouTube format, where you can run and hide from words previously spoken as they rotate away to back pages. Nor can we quote each other or post live links.

If you aren't a coward in the mold of your prophet, and you think you can defend the religion that you are a leader in, then why have you been so afraid to join me for well over a year?
Simply click the first link in any one of my videos and join me to prove you aren't a coward.

 PeteWaldo  (5 days ago)

The answer as to why Jesus did not know a few things, at the time that He revealed that to us, is because He was still manifest to us as a man in the flesh. A physical man with a body just like yours and mine. He had not yet been crucified, died, resurrected, and in His glorified body. Here is what Jesus said after those events

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, ALL POWER IS GIVEN UNTO? ME IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH.

[Peter]

np33123 (4 days ago)

My RELIGION doesn't need to be defend it's DEFENDER is THE CREATOR OF EVERYTHING included JESUS CHRIST and YOU TOO ! That is ALLAH ALMIGHTY HE IS YHWH !
About your invitation it is not bad but i told you last year? if you can not give me the right answers here on YouTube then why i have to waste my time there ? !

np33123 (4 days ago)

By mistake i deleted your post comment you can send it again .

np33123 (4 days ago)

PeteWaldo ANSWERED & MY COMMENT ABOUT HIS ANSWER :
The answer as to why Jesus did not know a few things, at the time that He revealed that to us, is because He was still manifest to us as a man in the flesh. THAT MEANS HE WAS NOT YET A GOD RIGHT ?. A physical man with a body just like yours and mine.NO GOD YET RIGHT ? He had not yet been crucified, died, resurrected, and in His glorified body.HIS GLORIFIED BODY WAS AGAIN BODY FROM FLESH AND ACCORDING TO YOU WITH THAT BODY HE BECAME GOD AND WENT TO HEAVEN WITH THAT PHYSYCAL BODY RIGHT ? WOW !!!

 np33123  (4 days ago)

PETEWALDO:
The answer to those questions is because that is the way God chose to reveal Himself to us. God doesn't "need" anything.
If Jesus hadn't been manifest as a baby in a virgin, then the Old Testament prophecy that I quoted immediately below, written many hundreds of years before Jesus was manifest, would have been wrong.
np33123: THAT ANSWER IS SO RIDICULOUS ! ACTUALLY THAT IS NOT THE ANSWER AT ALL ! BUT FOR PERSON LIKE YOU WITH CHRISTIAN MIND IT IS GREAT ANSWER .

[Peter]

 PeteWaldo  (4 days ago)

"PETEWALDO YOU ARE CALLING ME COWARD BUT I AM NOT HIDING FROM YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE !"

But you know that's untrue. For long over a year I have invited you to the forum where we can have a substantive discussion, but you prefer this limited character, snipe and run, YouTube format, where you can run and hide from words previously spoken as they rotate away to back pages. Nor can we quote each other or post live links.

If you aren't a coward in the mold of your prophet, and you think you can defend the religion that you are a leader in, then why have you been so afraid to join me for well over a year?
Simply click the first link in any one of my videos and join me to prove you aren't a coward.

[Peter]

 PeteWaldo (4 days ago)

"THAT ANSWER IS SO RIDICULOUS !"

It was your questions that were ridiculous. Speaking of God you asked "...WHY HE NEEDS TO BE...". when asking about God. You are asking me to tell you things of the mind of God. We could never understand God's mind and speculating is in vane. We can only know about God as He revealed Himself to us through ALL of the prophets and witnesses that you must reject to remain a follower of Mohammed.

Rom 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable [are] his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

My answer explained how Jesus birth was prophesied by Isaiah many hundreds of years before the event. That is the kind of thing those prophets revealed, that we can know.

PeteWaldo (4 days ago)

".HIS GLORIFIED BODY WAS AGAIN BODY FROM FLESH AND ACCORDING TO YOU WITH THAT BODY HE BECAME GOD AND WENT TO HEAVEN WITH THAT PHYSICAL BODY RIGHT ? WOW !!!"

That is not what I said. I said, as far as I know, the bible is silent on any other change in His body after Jesus revealed Himself that way to His disciples. However every Muslim that answered my question said they believe Jesus was taken up to his "Allah" physically - in the flesh.

PeteWaldo (4 days ago)

You have just shown exactly why you prefer 500 character YouTube bits and pieces. You can lie about what I said, because my words are already spammed to the next page. Nobody will bother to look back to verify that I am correct in my claim that you lied. If we were in the forum we could readily see the post and link to it and quote it, etc.
This is why you are a coward and shows EXACTLY WHY you have been terrified of coming into the forum where we can have a real, continuous, and substantive discussion.
And you, an imam, so afraid. But then your false prophet Mohammed was a coward too. You are simply being like him.

Surah 5:101 O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble.

PeteWaldo  (4 days ago)

Now why don't you put on your big boy pants and join me in the forum?
brotherpete. com/index. php

[Peter]

 np33123 (3 days ago)

Surah 5:101 O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble.
PeteWaldo that means , THE HUMANS ARE UNDER THE TEST ON THIS EARTH AND WE ARE USING NOT 100% OF THE CAPACITY OF OUR BRAINS BUT FEW PER CENTS ONLY.
IF WE ARE USING A FEW PER CENTS ONLY OF OUR BRAINS AND WE HUMANS ARE SO EVIL WORST THAN SATAN ( IBLIS -AZAZIL )HIM SELF, CAN YOU IMAGINE IF WE CAN USE 100% OF OUR BRAINS WHAT WILL BE  ( MAY CAUSE YOU TROUBLE ) ! IT ALSO MEANS THAT, IF WE HUMANS KNOW THE THINGS WHICH ARE HIDDEN FROM US AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE THEM PROPERLY YET
THAT WILL BE WORST THAN DISASTER ! ALLAH PROMISED TO RECREATE US TO BE PERFECT AND THEN WE WILL KNOW THE THINGS 100% . CAN YOU CHRISTIANS AND JEWS CLAIM YOU TO BE PERFECT AND TO HAVE ANSWERS OF ALL QUESTIONS ?

np33123 (3 days ago)

PeteWaldo Said :
"THAT ANSWER IS SO RIDICULOUS !"
It was your questions that were ridiculous. Speaking of God you asked "...WHY HE NEEDS TO BE...". when asking about God. You are asking me to tell you things of the mind of God. We could never understand God's mind and speculating is in vane. We can only know about God as He revealed Himself to us through ALL of the prophets and witnesses that you must reject to remain a follower of Muhammad.
np33123 answered :
IF YOU COULD NEVER UNDERSTAND GOD'S MIND THEN WHY YOU ARE TRYING TO EXPLAIN THE QUR'AN WHICH IS COMING FROM GOD'S ( ALLAH IS 100% EQUAL WITH THE YHWH ) MIND AND YOU ARE USING YOUR HUMAN MIND TO DO SO ?

np33123  (3 days ago)

ISLAM IN AMERICA SEE BELOW :

http://muslimwiki.com/mw/index.php/Native_Americans_and_Islam

IS THAT TRUE ?

[Peter]

 PeteWaldo (3 days ago)

That isn't what it means at all np. Mohammed HATED questions about his homemade religion because he was constantly caught by his own words. Indeed Mohammed left his book in such a mess that is requires abrogation to sort the contradictions out. Mohammed's getting caught with his pants down is why he was such a joke to the Jews, who had been following God for 2000 years before Mohammed invented his pop 7th century religion.
Even today, in Islamic parts of the world, if a Muslim asks too many questions of their imam they are put on a suspected "apostate" list. Mohammed HATED questions

"Allah has hated for you three things: ... 3. And asking too many questions (in disputed religious matters)." (Dr. Khan, Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol. 2, #555)

PeteWaldo (3 days ago)

"IF YOU COULD NEVER UNDERSTAND GOD'S MIND THEN WHY YOU ARE TRYING TO EXPLAIN THE QUR'AN WHICH IS COMING FROM GOD'S (? ALLAH IS 100% EQUAL WITH THE YHWH ) MIND....."

The Quran is the REVEALED book of Satan - the OPPOSITE of Jesus Christ as revealed in the Word of God.
You were asking me questions that one could only answer if they knew what God was THINKING. You were asking me to speculate on questions that WERE NOT revealed, and phrasing them preposterously as "....why would God need...?".

"...... AND YOU ARE USING YOUR HUMAN MIND TO DO SO?"

Using my mind and heart to know God AS HE REVEALED HIMSELF. Not to speculate about instances of what God "needs" for heaven's sake. My God doesn't NEED anything.

PeteWaldo  (3 days ago)

Now why don't you answer the question that you always avoid, and tell us why it is that you reject ALL of the prophets and witnesses of the 1600 year record of God to mankind as revealed through His Word, to follow a 7th century murdering, prisoner raping, thief?

[Peter]

 np33123  (3 days ago)

PeteWaldo :
Now why don't you answer the question that you always avoid, and tell us why it is that you reject ALL of the prophets and witnesses of the 1600 year record of God to mankind as revealed through His Word, to follow a 7th century murdering, prisoner raping, thief?

np33123: I GAVE YOU THE ANSWER SO MANY TIMES ! WHAT CAN I DO IF YOU CAN NOT UNDERSTAND IT ? BUT YOU DID NOT ANSWER THAT QUESTION : DID PROPHET MUHAMMAD KNOW HE IS DEALING WITH SATAN IF YES GIVE ME PROOF FOR THAT ! IF HE DID NOT KNOW THE QUR'AN IS THE BOOK FROM SATAN HOW YOU CHRISTIANS AND JEWS CLAIM TO BE , THEN PROPHET MUHAMMAD IS 100% INNOCENT , BUT WHY GOD LET THAT TO HAPPEN ? WHERE IS GOD MERCY ? IS GOD PLAYING WITH HIS CREATURES JUST TO HAVE SOME ACTIONS ?

[Peter]

PeteWaldo

We can see in np's non-answer below that he failed, once again, to tell us why it is he follows an unrepentant - murdering, prisoner raping, thief.
The reason he does not answer is because he cannot deny these characterizations because this is EXACTLY THE WAY MOHAMMED IS REVEALED, through Islam's own books.
Yet np rejects ALL of the prophets and witnesses as they are revealed in the Word of God, to follow Mohammed.

[Peter]

 np33123 (19 hours ago)

Yes we can see very clear who can not answer the questions me np or petewaldo . There is not a single MUSLIM on this World who rejects any of the Jewish prophets ! I don't know what petewaldo is talking about ?

np33123 (19 hours ago)

PeteWaldo said he can not know the MIND of God ( YHWH =ALLAH ) and at the same time he tried to blame the creator ALLAH to be the Moon god and to be Satan and not the same YHWH . And that HOLY BOOK QUR'AN to be the book of Satan . But he forgot the FACT that the QUR'AN is not like the Torah ( TAWRAT ) or the GOSPELS (INDJIL ) it is the BOOK with which the scientists are amazed !
   
np33123 (11 hours ago)

EVERY INTELLIGENT MAN ON THIS PLANET EARTH MUST WATCH THIS EXPLANATION? :

http://www.youtube.com/user/DiscoveringIslamOrg

[Peter]

 PeteWaldo (31 minutes ago)

The Creator is not named Allah. The Creator gave us His name. It is YHWH - Yahweh - "I AM".
Allah does not mean "I AM" in Arabic. You still bow to Mecca, where where the moon god resided, 5 times a day.

It's God that tells us we can't know His mind. As I have shown you it is a lie to say that some Arabic pagan deity is God. You blaspheme God's name when you write YHWH =ALLAH

Either the 1600 year record of God to mankind through ALL of the prophets that His people have followed for 3500 years is holy, or the STAND-ALONE RECORD of A SINGLE 7th century murdering, prisoner raping, imperialistic thief, that was and taught the EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus Christ was. ONE MUST CHOOSE.

PeteWaldo (20 minutes ago)

"Yes we can see very clear who can not answer the questions me np or petewaldo . There is not a single MUSLIM on this World who rejects any of the Jewish prophets ! I don't know what petewaldo is talking about "

I said Mohammedans MUST REJECT ALL OF THE PROPHETS AND WITNESSES AS THEY ARE REVEALED THROUGH THE WORD OF GOD, to follow Mohammed's phony 7th century record. Mohammed even switched your "holy" day to Friday. He was so ignorant about Abraham, that Mohammed wrote as though Abraham and Nimrod were contemporaries, when they didn't even live within 700 years of each other!!!

PeteWaldo (17 minutes ago)

That you posted that link regarding the Quran "code" is really fun. Here is what Rashid's and his "Submission" followers have come up with. Google 66619. org - or Quran 666 - or sura 1 to sura 33 is 666

"The number 666 is highly publicized all over the world and it is associated with evil and danger.
However, it is not what it seems. It was a Satanic trick.
The trick was to prevent the people approaching the 666.
Satan knew that the 666 is the book of GOD and the people should be kept away from it.
According to his plan, he placed a bad image to the number 666."

PeteWaldo (16 minutes ago)

"The truth is that This Quran is the 666 , The Book from The Lord of the Universe."

"The First Sura in the Quran, 666, is Praise. This sura is the gift of GOD to us to establish Contact with Him through our daily Contact Prayers. "

"GOD made His Messenger a witness with the letter Qaf and the number 666."

PeteWaldo (14 minutes ago)

Please see my video "Islam, Quran, Mohammed and 666" for much more!!!
watch?v=Yq9kvfhMWmo
Also our webpage at - beholdthebeast. com/islam__quran_and_666. htm

[Peter]

 np33123 (6 hours ago)

The Jews at that time of prophet Muhammad EVEN they accepted ALLAH to be EQUAL to YHWH just most of them did not accept prophet Muhammad to be a prophet
they called him a poet . They did not accept Jesus as Christ ( MESSIAH ) till today . Even the pagan Arabs knew THAT ALLAH IS THE ONLY ONE CREATOR ( THE GOD )
but they worshiped the idols as demigods in their understanding . If ALLAH is the Moon god why the Moon god commands in the QUR'AN .... " DON'T WORSHIP THE MOON , THE SUN AND THE STARS BECAUSE I AM THEIR CREATOR "..... etc. Do you think He is Bipolar like you ? Why the Arabic speaking Christians call Jesus Christ in Arabic language ....." O IISA MESSIH O? OUR ALLAH HEAR US "......
ARE THEY CALLING THE MOON GOD OR THE SATAN ?

np33123  (5 hours ago)

WHAT YOU GONNA SAY ABOUT THAT IS THAT? WORK OF SATAN ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYa-6C3A6mk

[Peter]

PeteWaldo (6 minutes ago)

Arabic speaking Christians are simply in error. They are of the misunderstanding that allah is a generic term for God, when it is not. We can see the truth to that from the first pillar of Islam "there is no ilah but Allah".
That Arabic speaking Christians are in error, doesn't change the Word of God, or God's name

Exd 3:13...and they shall say to me, What [is] his name?...14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Allah does not mean "I AM" in Arabic. So you, my friend, believe God's NAME to be Allah. Thus YOU BLASPHEME GOD'S NAME. And Satan has every "good" Muslim blaspheme God's name, what, at least 495 times a day?

Matthew 6:7 But? when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

 PeteWaldo  (1 minute ago)

"WHAT YOU GONNA SAY ABOUT THAT IS THAT WORK OF SATAN ?"

As we learn from the book of Job, for example, when allowed, Satan is more than capable of performing such things. But as we also learn from scripture, Islam is a pure work of Satan, which is obvious because it's 7th century murdering, prisoner raping, child doing, concubine fornicating, stepson's wife taking, sex slave pimping, imperialistic thief "prophet" WAS and taught the EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus Christ and the new covenant witnesses.

And you know you can't deny a single characterization of Mohammed above as this is how he is revealed through your own books.

[Peter]

 np33123 (2 days ago)

Tell me what is the meaning of the word God ?

np33123 (21 hours ago)

What Jesus Christ did to the world when He died on the cross and His blood was shed for our sins , did he change the World from Bad to Good ?? Did He BLOCKED the Satan not to do EVIL ? Is Satan and his forces POWERLESS after Jesus Christ shed His blood ? When and how Jesus Christ will totally destroy the Satan ? Why Jesus Christ left that for the future and did not do that the first time ? Give me the right answers if you are telling the truth !


np33123  (12 hours ago)

There are so many Christians who are sick from cancer and other diseases why Jesus Christ is not doing miracles to His followers to cure them , but He went to cure Muslims
Does that maker any sense? ? Why only Muslims why not Jews, Hindus , Buddhist etc. ?

[Peter]

 PeteWaldo (17 minutes ago)

There have been many instances of Jesus' healing miracles among His people, from the first century and ever since, through elders laying on of hands.
But in regard to illness, this isn't heaven my friend. Some folks are exposed to more trials than others, but the Lord doesn't allow a burden that his people can't endure. I am sure that you have seen folks with no arms and legs, that nonetheless feel blessed and rejoice, because they have a life in Jesus Christ and know that their life on this earth, is but a tiny vapor in eternal terms. Let me bring scripture to bear

Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

PeteWaldo (9 minutes ago)

"What Jesus Christ did to the world when He died on the cross and His blood was shed for our sins , did he change the World from Bad to Good? Did He BLOCKED the Satan not to do EVIL ? Is Satan and his forces POWERLESS after Jesus Christ shed His blood ?"

The answer to those questions is a resounding YES, for those of us (His) that have been called out of this world, and now reside in the kingdom of God.
For those such as yourself, that have been shown the Gospel, and continue to reject His shed blood to follow A SINGLE 7th century false prophet, that taught the opposite, it's an entirely different matter.

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Proverbs 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof [are] the ways of death.

   
PeteWaldo (8 seconds ago)

[[[When and how Jesus Christ will totally destroy the Satan?]]]

When He casts Satan in the lake of fire. While that is written in the figurative language of a prophetic vision, it doesn't spell a picnic for Satan, THE false prophet (that ain't the tooth fairy), or the beast (the false prophet's kingdom)

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

[[[[ Why Jesus Christ left that for the future and did not do that the first time?]]]

I would have to know God's mind to know that "why".

Rom 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable [are] his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

   
PeteWaldo  (1 second ago)

In the meantime we can only know God by the way He revealed Himself over 1600 years through all of the prophets and witnesses of His Holy Word.

[Peter]

Slightly divergent post posted on np's own channel

np33123 (18 hours ago)

In 2008 he was arrested by Daphne City police as a suspect for arson HE TRIED TO CLAIM INSURANCE MONEY , HE IS A VERY BIG CROOK . HOW CAN SUCH A PASTOR TO BE LIKE THAT ? IT IS BECAUSE THE HOLY SPIRIT IS FAR? FROM HIM . 95% OF THE CHRISTIANS ON THIS WORLD ARE LIKE HIM ! HIS GUIDANCE IS NOT FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT BUT FROM THE MAMON !
Shorrosh is the translator of The True Furqan, which is intended to be somewhat of an attempt to challenge the Qur'an. Shorrosh translated the book from English to Arabic language, however the true identity of the book's original authors is not proclaimed. NO ONE WILL ACCEPT HIS TRANSLATION WE DON'T NEED IT WE KNOW THE THINGS BETTER THAN HIM !

 np33123  (18 hours ago)

Anis Shorrosh is a Palestinian, Arab evangelical Christian, who has published many books and has debated with the late Ahmad Deedat.
Shorrosh served as pastor and evangelist in the Middle East from 1959-1966. In September 1995, Dr.Shorrosh was guest lecturer at NCI Bible College, Auckland, New Zealand. In the years 2004-2005, he held a tour around? the world, giving lectures and holding debates.
   

[Peter]

Answer on np's channel

 PeteWaldo  (1 second ago)

[[[[HE TRIED TO CLAIM INSURANCE MONEY , HE IS A VERY BIG CROOK . HOW CAN SUCH A PASTOR TO BE LIKE THAT ? IT IS BECAUSE THE HOLY SPIRIT IS FAR? FROM HIM .]]]]

You made a good point.
So then how do you feel comfortable judging a single 20th century random individual for arson, when you reject God as revealed through His Word, to follow a man that is revealed through your own books, as a pillaging, plundering, murdering, prisoner raping, child doing, stepson's wife taking, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic thief?
A thief that cut even himself in for 1/5 of the property stolen from others, just like a Mafia don.