Mus mol

[Peter]

Muslim sent me a link to a video and I responded:

"Hi Mol,
Tried to respond to you on Emiratie's video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIAw8vutwq4

but he is just another Islamic liar for satan that censored the truth by banning my ability to comment or send him a message.
His eyes are seared from truth. He has to run and hide from it like a little girl.
Just like the bible is banned in Muslim countries.
Because of Muslims love of lies and hatred of truth.
Also why "apostates" or those that find the truth, are killed.
Islam could never stand the light of truth.
Also why you can't befriend kuffar."

Mol answers:
[[[How can i have a dialogue with a person who believes muslims are not allowed to have non-muslim friends?]]]

But your book says that if you do, YOU WILL BE OF THEM. You will become kuffar:

Sura 5:51 YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your FRIENDS AND protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And HE AMONGST YOU THAT TURNS TO THEM (FOR FRIENDSHIP) IS OF THEM. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
PICKTHAL: O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for FRIENDS...
SHAKIR: O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for FRIENDS;...

[[[ Your understanding about islam is twisted.]]]

You need to read the Quran. Unless, of course, you think all three translators got it wrong, and you can create your own Quran.

[[[you believe bible is banned in muslim countries.]]]

Simple matter of fact. You can't possibly be that sheltered from the truth:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110006712

I believe you knew the truth, but chose to pretend it doesn't exist.
Yahoo it.

Why do you think Muslims are killed when they find the truth?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y70Z_hmOGWw

[[[2ndly muslims are ambassadors of truth.]]]

First off, God made ALL Muslims are liars:
1Jo 5:10 He that BELIEVETH ON THE SON OF GOD hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because he BELIEVETH NOT THE RECORD THAT GOD GAVE OF HIS SON.

You don't know truth:
Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Here's how you exchange lies of a 6th century bedowin mentality reprobate for the truth of Jesus Christ.

2Thes 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 [EVEN HIM],WHOSE COMING IS AFTER THE WORKING OF SATAN with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because THEY RECEIVED NOT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, THAT THEY SHOULD BELIEVE A LIE: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

[[[The truth is with the followers of 1 God, Allah. Not with the followers of Paul ...]]]

Don't be silly. YOU REJECT ALL - ALL - ALL of the New Testament prophets and THE WHOLE SUBJECT of the New Testament which is the new covenant.

[[[....the bountyhunter whose teaching of lies are acted upon even to this day. He hid the truth about jesus & turned the son of man into son of God & changed the unity of 1 god into trinity.]]]

You are denying the 1600 year record of God to mankind through all of the prophets and legions of witnesses in His Word, and replacing it with the PERFECT AND EXACT OPPOSITE in the 23 year record of recitations by A SINGLE, 6th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife taking, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, bloody imperialistic conqueror. A man, and book that are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/islam_the_opposite.htm

If you believe my characterizations of Mohammed to be unfair, select one that you believe to be untrue.

[[[Now about apstasy. The punishment of leaving the religion isnt death but if someone leaves the religion & spreads misinfomation & lies against islam then the punishment applies. You may scream "barabaric".]]]

No. It is obviously satanic. It is of Satan, just like Mohammed and Islam are of satan.
It is ALSO STUNNING PROOF that Islam cannot stand the truth of God's Word. That's why Christians never have to censor Islam. We are armed with the sword of the Spirit.

We know that judgment is up to God. Satan's helpers and minions even cut men's hands off for theft and such.

Jhn 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

[[[... But let me ask! This is the punishment for treason in some of your so called western democratic countries including USA.]]]

What do the laws of governments have to do with Christianity?
What you try desperately to do is pretend that
Christianity = western culture, or
Christianity = government, or
Christianity = laws of secular states,
in an effort to try to look past the truth of the behavior of your 6th century reprobate false prophet, and exactly what Islam has always been, and is unto today:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

[[[ In case of treason you betray the country & in this case it is betraying & slandering against a noble & peaceful religion.]]]

Christians love God enough to let Him do the judging.
Thank you for the above.
You proved, with stunning accuracy, that Islam cannot stand the light of the truth of God's Word. Cannot win a battle against the sword of the Spirit.

Ephesians 6:12 For WE WRESTLE not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, AGAINST POWERS, AGAINST THE RULERS OF DARKNESS OF THIS WORLD, AGAINST SPIRITUAL WICKEDNESS IN HIGH [PLACES]. 13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 Above all, TAKING THE SHIELD OF FAITH, WHEREWITH YE SHALL BE ABLE TO QUENCH ALL OF THE FIREY DARTS OF THE WICKED 17 AND TAKE THE HELMET OF SALVATION, AND THE SWORD OF THE SPIRIT, WHICH IS THE WORD OF GOD.

If you aren't a coward like your false prophet, let's go where we can post live links, quote each other, and hold each other accountable:

http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=12.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhgpDfkLSME

[Peter]

Mol did not enter the forum but preferred to hide in the dark alley of personal messaging.
He continued:

Sura 5:51 YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your FRIENDS AND protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And HE AMONGST YOU THAT TURNS TO THEM (FOR FRIENDSHIP) IS OF THEM. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
PICKTHAL: O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for FRIENDS...
SHAKIR: O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for FRIENDS;...

The correct term is Protectors, not friends. If there are translations that say it then they are obviously wrong. It says that we should prefer the non muslims over the muslims as our guardians & protectors. Nothing wrong with that. Thats an old theme u r trying to hold on to & has been rebutted comprehensively.

Salavation isnt an easy matter. Nobody likes to go to hell upon false beliefs so i have studied my religion well. You need to do the same. When i need to understand the bible i dont go to atheist websites i refer to the online encyclopedia. I believe if you are really searching for the truth then u will find the truth.
Frankly i find u xtians hypocrite. Anyone who lies, rapes, drinks alcohol, fornicate or is an adulterer should least enter the kingdom of heave & ii) Ye shall know them by their fruits.
Now what is the fruit of xtianity in prodominantly western countries? Rape the highest, Alcoholism the greatest, materialism replaces religion, children being born out of wedlock, Gambling has become a norm, Interest based banking/lending has led to the western imperialism collape. So is this the fruit of xtianity? Now as a muslim we are a community of teetotallers, dont gamble, dont commit adultery & dont deal in interest. We wash ourselves 5 times a day so we r the cleanest too. This is the fruit of Islam. We believe in 1 god alone that he is the doer of all things. You believe God is 3 in 1 so when i ask "when god died on the cross, did all 3 died?" as they r 3 in 1? the xtian says no but cant explain properly why. The xtian cant quote me a direct verse from holy bible where Jesus said i am god, or worship me. So i believe muslims are on the right path & xtians are somehow lost which is largely due to the teachings of St. Paul.

[Peter]

Mol did not enter the forum but preferred to hide in the dark alley of personal messaging:

Sura 5:51 YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your FRIENDS AND protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And HE AMONGST YOU THAT TURNS TO THEM (FOR FRIENDSHIP) IS OF THEM. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
PICKTHAL: O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for FRIENDS...
SHAKIR: O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for FRIENDS;...

The correct term is Protectors, not friends.

Like the rest of Muslims mol thinks Islam is about what he wishes it were.
He sees three translations that use the word "friends", but it is too horrible for him to contemplate.
His god too raw.
For good reason.

If there are translations that say it then they are obviously wrong. It says that we should prefer the non muslims over the muslims as our guardians & protectors. Nothing wrong with that.

Mol expresses exactly how we know Islam is of satan.

Mark 12:29  And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments [is], Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:  30  And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this [is] the first commandment.  31  And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Thats an old theme u r trying to hold on to & has been rebutted comprehensively.

Rebuted by what? The Quran's doctrine of abrogation? http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=116.0

It says what it says my friend. You can't pick and choose. Try this one:

Sura 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them

In Indonesia 3 teenage girls were beheaded on their way to their Christian school and one head left on the steps of a Church.  The note left behind reads:  "We will murder 100 more Christian teenagers and their heads will be presented as presents."

The 1400 year slaughter of non-Muslims still goes on. Over 12,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world, just since 9-11 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Salavation isnt an easy matter. Nobody likes to go to hell upon false beliefs so i have studied my religion well. You need to do the same.

I only need to study a single verse to know it is of satan and the opposite of ALL OF THE NEW TESTAMENT PROPHETS as Mohammed was the EXACT OPPOSITE OF JESUS. Islam is the EXACT OPPOSITE OF THE WHOLE SUBJECT OF THE NEW TESTAMENT:

Surah 4:157  That THEY SAID (in boast), "WE KILLED CHRIST Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- BUT THEY KILLED HIM NOT, NOR CRUCIFIED HIM, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, FOR OF A SURETY THEY KILLED HIM NOT:-

That single satanic verse is all one needs to know.

When i need to understand the bible i dont go to atheist websites i refer to the online encyclopedia. I believe if you are really searching for the truth then u will find the truth.
Frankly i find u xtians hypocrite. Anyone who lies, rapes, drinks alcohol, fornicate or is an adulterer should least enter the kingdom of heave & ii)

You don't understand what a Christian is:
1Cr 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

This link will help you understand:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ_26AE0G_8&feature=channel_page

Ye shall know them by their fruits.

Indeed. Over 12,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world, just since 9-11
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

In Indonesia 3 teenage girls were beheaded on their way to their Christian school and one head left on the steps of a Church.  The note left behind reads:  "We will murder 100 more Christian teenagers and their heads will be presented as presents."

"Once again, women are the targets. In mid-March, rebels assaulted three women gathering firewood and cut off their ears, lips, and breasts."
"Starting in 2003, Janjaweed Arabs, a Sudan-backed militia, have driven 2 million villagers from their homes in ethnic-cleansing attacks designed to suppress local rebels."

"Eyewitness accounts detailing the militia attacks are horrifying. "They killed my 3-year-old son right in front of my eyes," one father from West Darfur said. Since last fall, women have reported more than 500 rapes. Three women said five militiamen beat and raped them last August. The women said, "After they abused us, they told us that now we would have Arab babies. And, if they would find any [more] women, they would rape them again to change the color of their children.""

Beheading edict if you don't show up for prayers 5 times a day in Somalia
http://www.hiiraan.com/news2/2006/dec/somalia_official_issues_beheading_threat.aspx

Now what is the fruit of xtianity in prodominantly western countries? Rape the highest, Alcoholism the greatest, materialism replaces religion, children being born out of wedlock, Gambling has become a norm, Interest based banking/lending has led to the western imperialism collape. So is this the fruit of xtianity?

Like most self deluded Muslims you like to pretend that western culture = Christianity, but as you can see from the verse from Ephesians above, it doesn't.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ_26AE0G_8&feature=channel_page

Now as a muslim we are a community of teetotallers, dont gamble, dont commit adultery & dont deal in interest.

Right. Sure. And all the child raping you do goes unreported because it takes 4 women to bring an allegation of rape.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V22qDQqMPL0&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-DA4WmfFWI&feature=channel_page

We wash ourselves 5 times a day so we r the cleanest too. This is the fruit of Islam.

Just like the Pharisees and their fleshly rituals nullifying God's Word:
Mar 7:8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, [as] the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.

Then you go andpray like heathens:

Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

We believe in 1 god alone that he is the doer of all things.

Mark 12:29 ... The Lord our God is one Lord: ... 32 ... for there is one God; and there is none other but he:

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.   2  The same was in the beginning with God.    3  ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM; and without him was not any thing made that was made.    4  In him was life; and the life was the light of men.    5  And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

You believe God is 3 in 1 ......

Do you believe God has a Spirit?

Sura 38:72 "When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and BREATHED INTO HIM OF MY SPIRIT, fall ye down in obeisance unto him."

Do you believe in 2 Gods? You see, by Muslim measure, you are simply a polytheist hypocrite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O31ud9yQjh4

....so when i ask "when god died on the cross, did all 3 died?" as they r 3 in 1? the xtian says no but cant explain properly why. The xtian cant quote me a direct verse from holy bible where Jesus said i am god, or worship me.

Christians worship God, through the way that God revealed Himself to mankind, in the flesh of His Son our Savior Jesus Christ.

So i believe muslims are on the right path ...

Surely you can see how odd it is to suggest that the 1600 year record of God to mankind through all of the prophets and legions of witnesses in His Word, would be replaced by the PERFECT AND EXACT OPPOSITE in the 23 year record of recitations by A SINGLE, 6th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife taking, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, bloody imperialistic conqueror. A man, and book that are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament.

...& xtians are somehow lost which is largely due to the teachings of St. Paul.

Paul is ONLY ONE of ALL OF THE PROPHETS that you are required to reject by Mohammed.
You are required to reject THE WHOLE SUBJECT OF THE NEW TESTAMENT, and all of the Old Testament prophecy of it.
Islam is ANTICHRIST.