Question asked in PM:
I have had several Muslims post first testament verses of early wars where under Gods commands the Jews were to kill all the men women and children etc.....
First it's important to note the two covenants. The first to the Jews and the next including us Gentiles.
Next that was a direct commandment of God.
When we see the mass slaughters and such in the OT they are always lessons in disobedience to God. People ritually sacrificing children and such.
I could be mistaken but I believe one of those "kill them all" passages was an order to the Jews and those to be killed were of the seed of Ishmael, that have become the scourge on the world.
God commanded Abraham to sacrifice his son.
When God commands something we obey it.
But what does THE LAW say among other things? "Thou shalt not kill."
Old testament prophets laid down their swords and suggestion of the sword in God's service many centuries before Jesus was ever born.
Interestingly just this morning another search regarding contradictions brought me to this site.
I barely peaked at it so for all I know it is some cult so view it with care.
http://www.tektonics.org/lp/packham02.htmlMore specifically to your subject:
http://www.tektonics.org/lp/packham02.html#GENOCIDE...... next they will Quote Jesus saying I have not come to change the law but uphold it-Does Jesus stand behind Killing men women and children?
You know Jesus would never approve of even killing enemies.
I don't believe that means that a Christian can't defend the otherwise defenseless.
Does it say Jesus came to "uphold" the law? Not in MY KJV:
Mat 5:17
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.Luk 24:44
And he said unto them, These [are] the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and [in] the prophets, and [in] the psalms, concerning me.He fulfilled the law with His shed blood. That's how Christians have only two commandments. The rest of the law is pressed in our hearts through the Holy Ghost. ALL the law.
Mat 22:40
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophetsFor example: Jhn 13:34
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.Mat 5:43
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44 BUT I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;Even when it comes to food:
Act 10:13
And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. 14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.Mat 15:11
Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.We are not saved by acts of the flesh. Those are as filthy rags to God. We are saved by the condition of our hearts through repentance and following Jesus Christ.
Eze 11:19
And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:Jer 31:31
Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:Hbr 8:13
In that he saith, A new [covenant], he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old [is] ready to vanish away.Hbr 12:24
And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than [that of] Abel.A lot of the time they quote the following verses in an effort to suggest Jesus was violent as their 6th century reprobate:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=33.0Any time a Muslim quotes something get out a KJV search tool and CHECK the verse. This one has KJV by default:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/I've learned a lot about God's Word through doing word and term searches in the above site.
This one unfortunately has NKJV by default, that you can easily change, but lots of great tools on the drop-down menu at the left including Strong's definitions and a Textus Receptur Greek/English interlinear:
http://www.olivetree.com/cgi-bin/EnglishBible.htmI use ONLY the KJV and the Textus Receptus Greek/English interlinear with Strong's. Please read this regarding New Age bible versions:
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/new_age_bible_versions.htmI would vastly prefer if you asked these questions in the forum so that maybe others could benefit. Doubtful that others will join in because it is a pretty uncomfortable place for indoctrinated Christians as well as Muslims. God's Word takes no prisoners.
I may include it generically without fingering you if that's OK.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Rdej28pP4
