What bin Ladin's death should mean for us

[resistingrexmundi]

I believe yesterday will be one of "those" days where I remember exactly where I was and what I was doing when I heard the news. We have heard our parents talk along similar lines about the death of Kennedy or MLK. This marks the second of 2 such experiences in my life. The first happened on September 11, 2001. I had just made my way from Geometry class to Biology. It was 9:15 am and the tv was on showing the billowing smoke of the World Trade Center making its' way up into the sky. How appropriate then that yesterday at 5:00 am I should hear of the death of the mastermind behind that terrible attack. Two events that bookend 10 years of a world thrown suddenly into chaos.

One would think given that a man responsible for 3,000 deaths coming to an untimely death would have sent waves of jubilation over me. But no. Or maybe a sense of relief or closure to an open wound. But no. As I listened to the excited comments of those on tv joining the even more excited comments of those around me I couldn't help but feel a little sad and disheartened.

Bin Ladin's death, while deserved, should not be a cause for celebration. No matter how badly we wish to do so. It is easy to see him for the monster he was and forget that he had the misfortune of being reared in a society controlled by Islam and so vicariously by satan. That isn't to suggest that bin Ladin's actions are excusable for they certainly are not. But today one more soul has been claimed by satan and for that I weep. What's worse is that people still cannot see that the problem is not terrorists or even terrorism. It is ISLAM and as mentioned before vicariously it is satan.

While I am thankful that a huge enemy of freedom and a taker of human life has finally been prevented from carrying on his heinous machinations I must be sure to keep a sober mind and take stock. For we are called to emulate our master and He prayed on behalf of those who killed Him; the only righteous and perfect man to ever live. In keeping with that let us renew our efforts in prayer to reach those who may seem irredeemably lost to us but may be on the verge of a new life in Christ.

God bless,

rrm

[Peter]

Bin Ladin's death, while deserved, should not be a cause for celebration. No matter how badly we wish to do so. It is easy to see him for the monster he was and forget that he had the misfortune of being reared in a society controlled by Islam and so vicariously by satan.

Indeed.

It is ISLAM and as mentioned before vicariously it is satan.

Even yesterday the same nonsense was parroted regarding Islam being a religion of peace and bin Ladin being an exception. Yet if the averages hold, another 460 Christians will be martyred around the world this very day, mostly at the hands of Muhammad's true followers. Anyone with eyes can see that nearly everywhere we find murder, mayhem, and misery around the world we find Islam. In the exceptions we find communism.
Two distinct systems that require exclusion of the one true God in order to survive.
http://www.persecution.com/public/restrictednations.aspx?clickfrom=bWFpbl9tZW51

[Peter]

Was Osama bin Ladin a Coca Cola swilling pothead?

Consuming one of the most recognizable icons, of everything he claimed he hated?!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1383429/Osama-Bin-Laden-dead-Marijuana-grew-near-luxury-compound-Abbottabad.html

"Next to innocent crops like potatoes and cabbage, reporters descending upon Osama bin Laden’s million-dollar hideout in Abottabad, Pakistan made an interesting discovery– marijuana plants growing in small plots on three sides of the compound’s perimeter."
http://morallowground.com/2011/05/04/marijuana-growing-inside-osama-bin-ladens-abbottabad-compound/

Still investigating reports of western style video games.

[resistingrexmundi]

Was Osama bin Ladin a Coca Cola swilling pothead?

Consuming one of the most recognizable icons, of everything he claimed he hated?!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1383429/Osama-Bin-Laden-dead-Marijuana-grew-near-luxury-compound-Abbottabad.html

"Next to innocent crops like potatoes and cabbage, reporters descending upon Osama bin Laden’s million-dollar hideout in Abottabad, Pakistan made an interesting discovery– marijuana plants growing in small plots on three sides of the compound’s perimeter."
http://morallowground.com/2011/05/04/marijuana-growing-inside-osama-bin-ladens-abbottabad-compound/

Still investigating reports of western style video games.

Well Islam is no stranger to hypocrisy.

[Peter]

[MTLbobiras]

> I agree on your takes of Bin Ladin, that what he himself claimed and accomplished with the help of his ISLAMIC mass murder network. To eliminate almost 3000 unarmed civilians instantly, then appearing on western television somewhat capricious and boast full of there accomplishment, This was long overdue. How it was handled that they killed him without trial, I disagree on this 100%, There could be other reasons that the public doesn't know, that could have been revealed by this guy, reason I say this is that being on the other side of the fence I see a different picture, Bush lied about Iraq, Bin Laden could have been solely responsible or part of a global terrorist network and used as a scape goat. I think there are wheels in motion that his death may lead as an oppurtunity for war and violent escalation, as both of you know from the books of revelation, Bin Laden death may be the introduction to the upcoming false prophet that was written about in the gospel. I am certain without a doubt ISLAM will play a big role in the prophecies what kind I don't know exactly. I think people should brace themselves for upcoming changes

[resistingrexmundi]

I think that you should read "The False Prophet" if you are looking for understanding on Islam's role in the end times. As to the false prophet it is abundantly clear who that must be given his influence even today. As for Bin Ladin's death. I have no real problem with him having been taken out without trial if it preserved the life of those pursuing him. His guilt was beyond dispute as far as I am concerned. I still would have preferred to see him put on trial but my larger point is that satan is laughing when he sees us celebrating the death of another human being.

[Mike S]

> I agree on your takes of Bin Ladin, that what he himself claimed and accomplished with the help of his ISLAMIC mass murder network. To eliminate almost 3000 unarmed civilians instantly, then appearing on western television somewhat capricious and boast full of there accomplishment, This was long overdue. How it was handled that they killed him without trial, I disagree on this 100%, There could be other reasons that the public doesn't know, that could have been revealed by this guy, reason I say this is that being on the other side of the fence I see a different picture, Bush lied about Iraq, Bin Laden could have been solely responsible or part of a global terrorist network and used as a scape goat. I think there are wheels in motion that his death may lead as an oppurtunity for war and violent escalation, as both of you know from the books of revelation, Bin Laden death may be the introduction to the upcoming false prophet that was written about in the gospel. I am certain without a doubt ISLAM will play a big role in the prophecies what kind I don't know exactly. I think people should brace themselves for upcoming changes

I don't  think that Bin Laden would have gone with the SEALS without resistance knowing he would eventually face a jury from which a guilty verdict would most assuredly come.

[resistingrexmundi]

> I agree on your takes of Bin Ladin, that what he himself claimed and accomplished with the help of his ISLAMIC mass murder network. To eliminate almost 3000 unarmed civilians instantly, then appearing on western television somewhat capricious and boast full of there accomplishment, This was long overdue. How it was handled that they killed him without trial, I disagree on this 100%, There could be other reasons that the public doesn't know, that could have been revealed by this guy, reason I say this is that being on the other side of the fence I see a different picture, Bush lied about Iraq, Bin Laden could have been solely responsible or part of a global terrorist network and used as a scape goat. I think there are wheels in motion that his death may lead as an oppurtunity for war and violent escalation, as both of you know from the books of revelation, Bin Laden death may be the introduction to the upcoming false prophet that was written about in the gospel. I am certain without a doubt ISLAM will play a big role in the prophecies what kind I don't know exactly. I think people should brace themselves for upcoming changes

No doubt. I was just expressing what I would have liked to have seen. But as I said I would rather him have been taken out instead of nothing being done about him altogether.
I don't  think that Bin Laden would have gone with the SEALS without resistance knowing he would eventually face a jury from which a guilty verdict would most assuredly come.

[Peter]

There could be other reasons that the public doesn't know, that could have been revealed by this guy, reason I say this is that being on the other side of the fence I see a different picture, Bush lied about Iraq ....

Could you be a little more specific.

[Peter]

Bin Laden death may be the introduction to the upcoming false prophet that was written about in the gospel. I am certain without a doubt ISLAM will play a big role in the prophecies what kind I don't know exactly. I think people should brace themselves for upcoming changes

Did it ever strike you as strange, that strictly because of eschatological doctrine, the entirety of the 20th century church - including even "Christian" cults - must necessarily reject that Muhammad could be THE false prophet of the book of Revelation?
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/traditional_framework.htm#cults
This even as 1.5 billion people - 1/4 of mankind - are under his spell today, just as his followers have been for the last 1400 years.
This even as Muhammad's true followers attack non-muslims - including Yahweh's people - today, just as they have for the last 1400 years.
http://www.petewaldo.com/banu_qurayza_massacre.htm
This even as the most egregious and only unpardonable sin in Muhammad's religion, is committed when a Muslim confesses that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
This even though as a primary fundamental of their faith in Muhammad, each and every one of Muhammad's followers must necessarily reject the crucifixion, death and resurrection of the Messiah, and His shed blood that would save them from their sin.
http://www.petewaldo.com/
Yet because of pop-20th century eschatology the entirety of the body of Christ, must necessarily reject even considering, that Muhammad could be THE false prophet of the book of Revelation, even as he has 1.5 billion antichrist followers in the world today.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/end_time_myth.htm
Doesn't that seem a little peculiar? Why not try reading The False Prophet for a view of Revelation withing the traditional continuous-historic context? It's free and fun to read.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/contents_tfp.htm

[MTLbobiras]

->Did it ever strike you as strange, that strictly because of eschatological doctrine, the entirety of the 20th century church - including even "Christian" cults - must necessarily reject that Muhammad could be THE false prophet of the book of Revelation?
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/traditional_framework.htm#cults <-

Well the book says that the false prophet will work to misguide people away from Christ. that is his Job, Satan will then transform as a "GOD" that will be worshipped by many, willingly or forcefully, again Islam does come to mind, but I also can see Islam being a stepping stone, as I think there will be a present day false prophet that will continue to improvise amongst the works that mohammed already started. (completely denying Chrst as the son of God and a mere equal mortal equivalent to mohamed, ironicaly whetehr muslimsa admit it or not, mohamed is being idolized by muslims  ) Islam is the only religion that wants that monopoly worldwide, whether by force or not it dosent really matter as long as they get evreryone to convert.

[Peter]

->Did it ever strike you as strange, that strictly because of eschatological doctrine, the entirety of the 20th century church - including even "Christian" cults - must necessarily reject that Muhammad could be THE false prophet of the book of Revelation?
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/traditional_framework.htm#cults <-

Well the book says that the false prophet will work to misguide people away from Christ.

Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

Thus each and every one of Muhammad's followers is required to reject the blood that would save them.

that is his Job, ......

So how is that not perfectly fulfilled in the false prophet Muhammad?

..... Satan will then transform as a "GOD" .......

Muhammad's followers reject Yahweh to follow Muhammad and his alter-ego "Allah". Since Muhammad and his "Allah" are one and the same, Muhammad is their god. They just don't realize it through the strong delusion they suffer.

...... that will be worshipped by many, .....

1.5 billion people - 1/4 of mankind - follow the false prophet Muhammad.

..... willingly or forcefully, ......

Exactly as the historical record of the 1400 years of Muhammadanism is revealed.
http://www.petewaldo.com/banu_qurayza_massacre.htm
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

...... again Islam does come to mind, but I also can see Islam being a stepping stone, ......

Step to where? There are already 1.5 billion people that must reject the Son of God, and the blood that would save them, as fundamentals of their faith in Muhammad.

..... as I think there will be a present day false prophet ......

Why?

Can you give us a reason based on scripture that you believe that there will be a present day false prophet? How is Muhammad deficient in that role?

Is it because you believe there is to be a "7 year tribulation", and so therefore he must necessarily be part of that future 7 year period?

Act 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.

That includes the antichrist false prophet Muhammad.
resurrection of the dead

2Pe 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

[Peter]

....... that will continue to improvise amongst the works that mohammed already started.

What more would need to be done to Islam? What more needs to be accomplished?
There are 1.5 billion antichrists in Muhammadanism.

(completely denying Chrst as the son of God .....

Sura 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!

Surah 9.30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

How could they be more antichrist than they already are? Yet Satan fooled them into believing that they are not. Satan could have never gotten 1/4 of mankind to be Satanists - to follow him directly. It's a mass delusion that springs from a lie.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=415.msg5121#msg5121

[Peter]

..... and a mere equal mortal equivalent to mohamed, .....

Muhammad was a mere mortal. He enticed reprobate men to follow him with the promise of women and girls to rape and the property of the vanquished to steal and keep as their own.

...... ironicaly whetehr muslimsa admit it or not, mohamed is being idolized by muslims) .....

So then how is he not THE false prophet?

..... Islam is the only religion that wants that monopoly worldwide, whether by force or not it dosent really matter as long as they get evreryone to convert.

So how does that not describe THE false prophet of the book of Revelation?
Why haven't you read The False Prophet? It's absolutely free and fun to read.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/contents_tfp.htm