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ZIONISM - Christian Zionist
« on: January 22, 2012, 04:21:01 PM »
[edit add 6-25-17 on Christian Zionism: 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E2pbs3CoS4

All of my videos include a text version on the first link below the video. The text version of this video contains a lot of supporting links as does the drop-down menu below the video.

The following content may challenge your current opinion or beliefs, but before leaving the video because something presented makes you feel uncomfortable, I would encourage you to first ask yourself if it's true.

There are two distinct, even impassioned, camps of opinion regarding Zionism, with perhaps few folks numbered as indifferent in between. The church is also split over views regarding the subject of the return of Jews to Israel.

Before delving into ancient history and legal title to the land it's important to note that by the early 1800's, Israel had, essentially, been abandoned. This began when Jerusalem suffered a physical desolation in 70AD when the Romans sacked Jerusalem and threw down Herod's Temple - every stone - just as Jesus had prophesied, and killed over a million Jews. The Romans went on to kill over a half of a million more Jews during the Bar Kochba Revolt less than 70 years later. And as if the following 500 years of continuing persecution of God's people as the Roman Empire declined wouldn't have been enough, an additional 1200 years of physical and spiritual desolation was in store, after Muhammad's followers seized Jerusalem in 639 while in the process of conquering nearly the whole known world during the Islamic First Jihad.

During that 1200 years of spiritual desolation of the Holy Land, and as if they had intended to further perfectly fulfill prophecy by completing the physical desolation as well, the harem keeping geniuses running Islam's Ottoman Empire imposed a tax on property based on the number of trees it contained. The predictable result was that folks cut their trees down to reduce their tax burden, resulting in the loss of millions of trees, and subsequent desertification. Thus the spiritual and physical desolation of Jerusalem was complete by the early 1800's - in spades - as further evidenced by a near-nonexistent population.

From Christian Zionism by JoAnn G. Magnuson: "Walter Lowdermilk, representative of the U.S. Soil Conservation Service and author of scholarly works on global natural resources, traveled in the Middle East in 1938-39. He described the land in biblical times as having rich red earth, terraces, and forested hillsides. These, he said, were stripped of their topsoil as desert Arabs cut down the trees, leaving the country "a desert land with no one to till the soil..." He concluded that, "The decay of Palestine reached its darkest stage in the four hundred years of Turkish rule, from 1517 to 1918" (Lowdermilk, Palestine: Land of Promise, pp. 5, 74-76)."
http://www.elca.org/What-We-Believe/Social-Issues/Journal-of-Lutheran-Ethics/Issues/May-2007/Christian-Zionism.aspx

Please see the "Abomination of Desolation" video.

In "A History of the Jews" Paul Johnson writes on page 321:  "Between 1827 and 1839, largely through British efforts, the population of Jerusalem rose from 550 to 5,500 and in all Palestine it topped 10,000 - the real beginning of the Jewish return to the Promised Land. In 1838 Palmerston appointed the first western vice-consul in Jerusalem, W.T. Young, and told him 'to afford protection to the Jews generally'."

Even 30 years later in 1867 Mark Twain described it as: “ ...[a] desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds-a silent mournful expanse....A desolation is here that not even imagination can grace with the pomp of life and action....We never saw a human being on the whole route....There was hardly a tree or a shrub anywhere. Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of the worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.”

"...of all the lands there are for dismal scenery, I think Palestine must be the prince. The hills are barren, they are dull of color...the valleys are unsightly deserts fringed with feeble vegetation that has an expression about it of being sorrowful and despondent."

While the Jews began to restore the Promised Land a couple hundred years ago, the "green movement" was kicked off more formally in 1910, with the founding of the first kibbutz on the shore of the Sea of Galilee.

About 600 years prior to the Christian era, Ezekiel prophesied regarding a desolation and restoration.

Ezekiel 36:35 And they shall say, This land that was desolate is become like the garden of Eden;



and the waste and desolate and ruined cities [are become] fenced,



[and] are inhabited.



Jerusalem growing from a population of just 550 to over 3/4 of a million people, with the population of Israel growing from 10,000 to over 7.8 million. That tiny strip of land emerging from total desolation as the Israelis advanced as world leaders in agricultural innovation and technology. The Gush Katif greenhouses alone produced about two hundred million dollars worth of exports per year.





"...the community of Atzmona had Israel’s largest plant nursery, and with 800 cows, the Katif dairy was the second largest in the country."

If you are looking for a fairytale ending you're in for a disappointment. These industries were located on the Gaza strip, that the Israelis developed from desert wasteland, over the last half of the 20th century. Secular international powers then brokered a deal in which the Gaza strip was to be handed over to the so-called "Palestinians", in exchange for yet another empty promise of peace with the Israelis, by Muhammad's followers that are committed to destroying the "People of the Book" just as Muhammad mass murdered them, while also enslaving some, and confiscating the fruit of their labor back then as well.

The Gaza Strip's new owners, were to take over the operation and profit of the greenhouses but instead, predictably, plundered, destroyed and abandoned them. Rather than producing food and flowers for export, the "Palestinians" instead used the Gaza strip as a platform - now closer to Jerusalem - from which to launch thousands of rockets randomly into Jerusalem, as capable of hitting schools and hospitals as anything else.

The greenhouses are abandoned today, and 4,000 high tech greenhouse jobs the Jews provided for the Palestinians churning out two hundred million dollars worth of produce a year, were turned into 500 farm jobs.

"Finally, a Palestinian 'Charity' Tells The Truth" By Debbie Schlussel
"A Gaza charity headed by the interior minister of Hamas yesterday offered $1.4 million to any Arab citizen of Israel who abducts an Israeli soldier."

I wonder how many "Christians" funded that "charity" believing they were helping "Palestinians"? Is it really a stretch to believe that funds sent to aid Palestinians are fungible, funding both welfare and bombs? Who's keeps track of such funds, the interior minister of Hamas?

If you want to help the downtrodden why don't you help folks who deserve it like those suffering in Africa, through organizations like Mercy Ships, Voice of the Martyrs, and Compassion International?

And the Gaza town of Neve Dekalim today?

"Hamas turned the site into a barbed-wire enclosed terror training camp from which Qassam rockets were launched into Israel. Signs posted in Arabic state that it is a "closed military zone." Mahmoud al-Zahar, chief of Hamas said that Hamas planned to launch terror attacks that would drive Jews out of the West Bank and the entire state."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gush_Katif#Economy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eeGBv5JPEY

How many months, much less years, would you want your government to restrain itself, if bomb carrying rockets were dropping into your neighborhood?

".... terror only intensified when Israel completely and fully withdrew from the Gaza Strip, when it handed it in full to the Palestinians! They of course find it easy to forget that it wasn't until two years after the withdrawal, two years of continued rockets that a blockade was put up to prevent the smuggling of these rockets, of these weapons."

So rather than two hundred million dollars worth of produce, the export of "Palestinian" residents of Israel today is terrorism, as detailed in their own words through countless web sites, and videos on YouTube.

Start with a YouTube search like - Islam indoctrination of children

Besides being highly productive as an inherent part of the nature of Jews, another reason the Israelis have been able to become so innovative, productive and prosperous, as compared to their Islamic neighbors, is because they are the only democracy in the Middle East that champions the freedom and right to self-determination of its citizenry that also shares our western values. That's also why Muslims enjoy more freedom in Israel than they do in any Islam controlled country on earth.

The blessing the Jews have been on all our families was prophesied.

Genesis 12:2-3 And I will make of thee [Abram] a great nation, [Israel] and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: 3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Let's compare the "People of the Book" to Muhammad's followers, in terms of Nobel Prizes, to get a little better understanding of how Jews have been a blessing on "all families of the earth".

The Global Islamic population is approximately 1.5 billion, or about 25% of the world's population.  They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

Literature:
1988 - Najib Mahfooz

Peace:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1994 - Yaser Arafat:
1999 - Ahmed Zewai

Economics: (zero)

Physics: (zero)

Medicine:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar

Chemistry:
1999 - Ahmed Hassan Zewail

TOTAL 6 (with half of them for so-called "peace" even including one awarded to the terrorist Yasar Arafat!)


The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000, or about 0.2% of the world's population, yet they compose 22% of all individual recipients of Nobel Prizes worldwide, between 1901 and 2009 including:

Literature: 10
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pa sternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer World

Peace: 8
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin

Physics: 53
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1965 - Richard Phil lips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1972 - William Howard Stein
1973 - Brian David Joseph son
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1979 - Herbert Charles Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1989 - Sidney Altman
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
1995 - Martin Perl
2000 - Alan J. Heeger

Economics: 13
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Mil ton Friedman
1978 - Herb ert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel

Medicine: 43
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herb ert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abra ham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Ed elman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Ed ward B. Lewis

Chemistry: 24
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1972 - William Howard Stein
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1979 - Herbert Charles Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Herbert Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1989 - Sidney Altman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
1998 - Walter Kohn
2004 - Avram Hershko, Aaron Ciechanover and Irwin Rose
2006 - Roger Kornberg

TOTAL: 151

When was the last time you bought something that was made in the Middle East - except for crude oil - and even that was produced by foreign companies from democratic nations. This is because, rather than joining the rest of the world in striving to create a better life for future generations, the leaders of Muhammad's followers focus on denigrating Jews and spending their wealth on arms and armies to kill them, wipe them out to the last, and "drive them into the sea". These are true, fundamental, followers of Muhammad, and leaders of Islamic nation states and mosques, that get Islam and do what they can to do as Muhammad did.

Don't take my word for it. Do a YouTube search like - islam kill jews - to hear it in their "religious" leaders own words. Or read the Quran and Hadith for yourself, free online. Try word searches on those resources like "fight" and "jihad".

Even here at home. Do a web search - u.s. mosques jihad

Whose side are you on?


Let's explore the cause, that anti-Zionists are devoting themselves to advancing, which also happens to be consistent with the  1400 year goal of Islam.

Qur'an Sura 33:26 "Allah took down the People of the Scripture Book. He cast terror into their hearts. Some you slew, and some you made prisoners. And He made you heirs of their lands, their houses, and their goods, giving you a land which you had not traversed before. And Allah has power over all things."

Muhammad's "Allah" revealed as a deity who "cast terror into their hearts" and "took down the People of the Scripture Book" while stealing the fruit of the labor of generations.

The following is an account of how events unfolded after Muhammad attacked that non-combatant, faithful, peaceful, productive and prosperous farming community of the Banu Qurayza Jews, who never struck a blow.

Ishaq:461 "After the siege exhausted and terrorized them, the Jews felt certain that the Apostle would not leave them until he had exterminated them. So they decided to talk to Ka'b Asad. He said, 'People of the Jews, you see what has befallen you. I shall propose three alternatives. Take whichever one you please.' He said, 'Swear allegiance to this man and accept him; for, by Allah, it has become clear to you that he is a prophet sent from Allah. It is he that you used to find mentioned in your scripture book. Then you will be secure in your lives, your property, your children, and your wives.'"

Ishaq:462/Tabari VIII:30 "The Jews said, 'We will never abandon the Torah or exchange it for the Qur'an.' Asad said, 'Since you reject this proposal of mine, then kill your children and your wives and go out to Muhammad and his Companions as men who brandish swords, leaving behind no impediments to worry you. If you die, you shall have left nothing behind; if you win you shall find other women and children.' The Jews replied, 'Why would we kill these poor ones? What would be the good of living after them?'"

So the alternative offered to abandoning the Torah and the faith of their forefathers of a couple thousand years and praying toward the land of their prophets and patriarchs - to instead spin around to the opposite direction and prostrate themselves toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca five times a day - was to kill their own wives and children conspicuously abrogating Muhammad's "no compulsion in religion" drivel.

Bukhari:V5 B59 #448 "They then surrendered to the Prophet's judgment but he directed them to Sa'd to give the verdict. Sad said, 'I give my judgment that their men should be killed, their women and children should be taken as captives, and their properties distributed.'"

So Muhammad didn't even bother to feign a "revelation" that it was his "Allah's" judgment on the innocent Jewish farmers, but instead deferred to his "booty" coveting subordinate Sa'd to pass judgment on them.

Tabari VIII:38 "The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims."

Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464 "The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."

Slaughtering those innocent Jewish farm boys, and their dads and grandpas, while sexually enslaving their little sisters, mothers and grandmothers. Here's Bukhari's account of a casual conversation in their "holy" mosque, that followed the siege.

Bukhari:V5 B59 #459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"

Ignoring, much less supporting, the global menace Islam poses at the expense of the "People of the Book" in Israel, is acting through more blind ignorance than anti-Semitic Germans who didn't care about Hitler and the Islamic Grand Mufti of Jerusalem's holocaust, because they hoped it would only effect Jews.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8sk3fKY9PhY

In the following photo Islam's Grand Mufti of Jerusalem - Haj Mohammed Effendi Amin el-Husseini - gives the old "sieg heil" to the Islamic troops in the service of Nazi Germany, toward the shared goal of genocide of Jews, including two Islamic panzer divisions in Hitler's army. The anti-Semitism perhaps newer to Nazi Germany, but consistent with a 1400 year history of genocide of Jews in Islam, beginning with Muhammad's mass murder of them.



Ishaq:204/ Tabari VI:134 "'Men of the Khazraj, do you know what you are pledging yourselves to in swearing allegiance to this man.' 'Yes,' they answered. 'In swearing allegiance to him we are pledging ourselves to wage war against all mankind.'"

Quran Sura 9.111 Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah. then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.

FIGHTING AND SLAYING NON-MUSLIMS IN "ALLAH'S" CAUSE IS BINDING ON MUHAMMAD'S FOLLOWERS IN THE QURAN!

WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ZIONISM, just as ISLAM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISRAEL beyond Muhammad's bizarre tale of riding on a flying donkey-mule-like animal one night from Mecca to Jerusalem, while declaring that he prayed in the temple that had been torn down over 500 years prior to his claim, with the next leg of his fanciful flight taking him up to "paradise" and then back to Mecca by morning.

Please see the "Muhammad's Night Journey" for more on that subject.

In Muhammad's religion belief in the final hour - which is the last day - is so important it is frequently mentioned simultaneously with belief in "Allah" as in Sura 2:8 "We believe in Allah and the last day;". What activity are Muhammad's followers to be engaged in as they anticipate "Allah's" final judgment upon them?

Sahih Bukhari B52 #177 Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "the Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rl0rZObP-c&feature=player_embedded

Even as they anticipate the moment of "Allah's" final judgment on all people Muhammad's followers are to be engaged in the act of killing Jews according to several Hadiths. So who, then, might Muhammad's "Allah" really be?

Sahih Muslim B41, #6981 Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: You will fight against the jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me) ; kill him.

John 16:2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.



1John 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

Whose side are you on?

The Israelis, or those true fundamental followers of Muhammad who are committed to wiping the Jews out to the last?
But is it only about Jews the way Hitler pretended at first?

Bukhari, V1 B2 #24 Narrated Ibn 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform a that, then they save their lives an property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah."

Those true followers of Muhammad whose mission and ambition is the conquest of all nations of the world, and subjugation of all peoples to Muhammad's followers. No faithful, bible believing, Jew or Christian can recognize "Allah's Apostle" as other than a false prophet, just as the Jews of Medina did 1400 years ago that were slaughtered for it.



"I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify ... that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly..." That means they are to fight against YOU, and YOUR children, and YOUR grandchildren! By supporting Muhammad's followers, at the expense of the "People of the Book", anti-Zionists of all stripes including atheists and agnostics are essentially consigning their heirs to being compelled to "testify that "... Muhammad is Allah's Apostle" while being made to prostrate themselves toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca and "...offer the prayers perfectly..." in what the Gospel describes as the "...vain repetitions of the heathen..." to the pagan Arabian's deity "Allah" five times a day. YOUR children, YOUR grandchildren - whatever your beliefs.

Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen [do]: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

If a Saudi doesn't make it to morning prayers the religious police may show up at his door to find out why.

AP - December 2006 MOGADISHU, Somalia - "Residents of a southern Somalia town who do not pray five times a day will be beheaded, an Islamic courts official said Wednesday, adding the edict will be implemented in three days."

The following is a footnote from the Noble Quran. Hit your pause button and read it completely for yourself.

Sahih Al-Bukhari - "Jihad is holy fighting in Allah’s Cause with full force of weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its Pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah is made superior and He becomes the only God who may be worshiped. By Jihad Islam is propagated and made superior. By abandoning Jihad (may Allah protect us from that) Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position. Their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, and Muslim rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape this duty dies as a hypocrite." page 580 of Maktba Dar-us-Salam's Sahih Al-Bukhari

Muslim hypocrites who have been deceived into believing that Islam is a religion of peace, and engage in Da'wah or spreading Islam, are actually laboring to be ruled by the likes of the Taliban, or whatever group emerges that is more murderous than they are. Who will ultimately win any debate between a peaceful hypocrite, and a true fundamental follower of Muhammad who disagrees with him, and holds a beheading knife in one hand and is supported by the Quran in his other hand? It's obvious that Satan will continue to win any such dispute. He even had an answer for those hypocrites who don't have the stomach for fighting in Allah's cause.

Quran Sura 2.216 Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.

Like perhaps the converse of fighting, which is, not fighting, peace and civility.

Whose side are you on?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7K_6GvpMlU

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Re: ZIONISM
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2012, 04:21:39 PM »
There are, absolutely, two distinct sides to Zionism.

On one side is the only democracy in the Middle East, who's people are innovative, hard working, productive, highly literate, and share our western values, governed by citizens in freedom with the right to self-determination, and whose faithful worship Yahweh as He revealed Himself to them through the Old Testament scriptures. A country that shares our western values where Muslims enjoy more freedom, than Muslims do in any Islam controlled country on earth. A nation and people whose sovereignty, self-rule and independence, was supported by the world community as partial atonement for 2500 years of persecution of Jews while they were scattered among the Gentile nations.

On the other side are the people who reject those Old Testament scriptures as "corrupted", who's false prophet proclaimed the exact opposite of the whole subject of the Gospel, who commit the most egregious and only unpardonable sin (shirk) in Muhammad's "religion" if they confess that Jesus is the Son of God.

1John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

Those true followers of Muhammad who share Muhammad's goal of conquest and subjugation of all people to Muhammad's followers. The 1400 year long goal of Islam, as dictated by the Quran and Hadith, and as evidenced by the conquest of nearly the whole known world during the First Islamic Jihad, until stopped in France and Austria. A group that rejects the Scriptures, to follow Muhammad alone through his stand-alone 23 year 7th century record, whose faithful adherents are responsible for over 18,000 deadly Islamic terror attacks around the world, just since 9-11. Over two million killed or displaced in the Sudan alone, and recently another 1,000 Christians martyred on the Ivory Coast of Africa by the new Muslim government, and even more recently another 40 killed in church bombings in Nigeria on Christmas day 2011, with the "Arab Spring" slaughter, persecution and church burnings of Christians in Egypt, and rising tide of genocide of black immigrants in Libya now that it has been "liberated" - with 105 to 170,000 Christians being martyred around the world every year - of which none of the preceding have anything whatsoever to do with Zionism.

Voice of the Martyrs
Nations where the Gospel is banned or restricted

The devastating and desolating result of Islamization can be just as easily observed today, as Sir Winston Churchill discerned over a century  ago when Zionism was in it's infancy. "The River War" Vol. II, pp. 248-50, London; Longman, Green & Co., 1899:

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live… The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities…but the influence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa…and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”

Stunningly prophetic words as we see what is happening in the wake of the secularization of Europe since that was written. When the things of the Spirit of God are removed, the vacuum that results will always be filled with something, as witnessed through the genocide committed by communist and Islamic examples, of which neither ideology can stand the light of truth.

Unless these poor folks come to know the love of the one true God through a relationship with Jesus Christ, or He returns soon, Sweden may be ruled by Muhammad's followers within the next couple of generations, with Holland following close in their wake, and then the rest of Europe. You can Google and YouTube search the desperation of nationals like Gert Wilders who are witnessing rapidly vanishing cultures, peace and civility. Islamic conquest by immigration and overpopulating while living off the dole, and destroying the health care systems that those welfare states provide, through inbreeding. PLEASE DON'T TAKE MY WORD FOR THIS.

Google - muslim inbreeding europe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju2FP8LIOLM

From a ton of websites:

"Medical research suggests that while British Pakistanis are responsible for 3% of all births, they account for one in three British children born with genetic illnesses."

"Across the Arab world today an average of 45 percent of married couples are related, according to Dr. Nadia Sakati, a pediatrician and senior consultant for the genetics research center at King Faisal Specialist Hospital in Riyadh."

From the NY Times: "Saudi Arabia Awakes to the Perils of Inbreeding"

"RIYADH, Saudi Arabia, April 24— When she was 17, marrying age for a Saudi girl, Salha al-Hefthi was presented with a husband.

She was lucky, her parents told her when they planned the wedding, that she was to marry such a good man, a man from her own tribe, a man who would care for their children and make a good living. He was the son of her father's brother -- her first cousin -- and everyone, including the bride, agreed that ''a first cousin was a first choice,'' she said."

"The couple had two healthy boys, now 22 and 20, but their third child, a girl, was born with spinal muscular atrophy, a crippling and usually fatal disease that was carried in the genes of both parents. Their fourth, sixth and seventh children were also born with the disorder.

Spinal muscular atrophy and the gene that causes it, along with several other serious genetic disorders, are common in Saudi Arabia, where women have an average of six children and where in some regions more than half of the marriages are between close relatives.

In some parts of Saudi Arabia, particularly in the south, where Mrs. Hefthi was raised, the rate of marriage among blood relatives ranges from 55 to 70 percent, among the highest rates in the world, according to the Saudi government."

Sura 33:50-51 "O prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom God, has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts..."

"This practice, which has been prohibited in the Judeo-Christian tradition since the days of Moses, was sanctioned by Muhammad and has been going on now for 50 generations (1,400 years) in the Muslim world."

In stark contrast to Churchill's observation of "Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live…", from Wikipedia:

"Science and technology in Israel is one of the country's most developed sectors. The percentage of Israelis engaged in scientific and technological inquiry, and the amount spent on research and development (R&D) in relation to gross domestic product (GDP), is amongst the highest in the world.[44] Israel ranks fourth in the world in scientific activity, as measured by the number of scientific publications per million citizens. Israel's percentage of the total number of scientific articles published worldwide is almost 10 times higher than its percentage of the world's population.[45]


(photo from TheReligionOfPeace.com)

Israeli scientists have contributed to the advancement of agriculture, computer sciences, electronics, genetics, medicine, optics, solar energy and various fields of engineering. Israel is home to major players in the high-tech industry and has one of the world's most technologically-literate populations.[46] In 1998, Tel Aviv was named by Newsweek as one of the ten most technologically-influential cities in the world.[47]"

Yet anti-Zionists are advancing the conversion of Israel into another sharia law ruled, female circumcising, wife beating, Christian convert beheading, Islamist slave state, even as we watch the rest of the Middle East - along with Europe - fall to the same fate.

"In Egypt, at least 90 percent of women are believed to have undergone FGM [female genital mutilation]. In 2005, a report by UNICEF had claimed that 97 percent of Egyptian women aged 15-49 had undergone the operation. Here, the issue has been a source of controversy. A CNN broadcast from 1994, in which a 10-year-old girl in Egypt was shown being "operated upon" by an unskilled practitioner, caused a hostile reaction. Egypt sued CNN for $500 million for damaging its reputation, but the case was thrown out by courts.""

Are you eager to take your daughter in to have her genitals mutilated? Aren't anti-Zionists working to ultimately consign the daughters of their heirs to that fate?

Whether Zionist or anti-Zionist it's unimaginable to me, that a person who is even remotely capable of independent thought and being honest with themselves for even a moment, could argue with Benjamin Netanyahu when he said: "If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel".

Whose side are you on?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Yh3QYpKfJs


Let's get to that ancient history regarding title to Israel.

Over 3600 years ago the one true God of the bible - YHWH - Yahweh, gave to the seed of Abraham "all the land of Canaan" as an everlasting possession through an everlasting covenant that passed specifically through his son Isaac to Isaac's son Jacob - whom the Lord named "Israel" - and to his seed after him.

The Lord then sent his people into their Promised Land, displacing the Canaanites who had given themselves over to such iniquity as sorcery, idolatry, incest, adultery, bestiality, ritualistic prostitution, and even sacrifice of children to idols.

Please see the video "Old Testament Violence" for more.

Let's take a look at the covenants Yahweh made with His people.

Genesis 15:18  In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

Genesis 17:7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. 8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.



Abraham's wife Sarah believed herself to be too advanced in age to bear children, so she suggested to Abraham that he have a son with her handmaiden Hagar, to raise as their own. The Lord had previously told Sarah that He would allow her to bear a child, but she lacked faith in His words and had even laughed at the prospect, but just as the Lord had told her she would...

Genesis 21:1 And the LORD visited Sarah as he had said, and the LORD did unto Sarah as he had spoken. 2 For Sarah conceived, and bare Abraham a son in his old age, at the set time of which God had spoken to him. 3 And Abraham called the name of his son that was born unto him, whom Sarah bare to him, Isaac. 4 And Abraham circumcised his son Isaac being eight days old, as God had commanded him. 5 And Abraham was an hundred years old, when his son Isaac was born unto him. 6 And Sarah said, God hath made me to laugh, [so that] all that hear will laugh with me. 7 And she said, Who would have said unto Abraham, that Sarah should have given children suck? for I have born [him] a son in his old age. 8 And the child grew, and was weaned: and Abraham made a great feast the [same] day that Isaac was weaned. 9 And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, which she had born unto Abraham, mocking. 10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, [even] with Isaac. 11 And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son. 12 And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.

Thus God's covenant is specifically with the seed of Isaac and specifically not with the seed of Ishmael. After Abraham cast Hagar and Ishmael out of his house it would seem even God no longer recognized Ishmael as Abraham's son.

Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only [son] Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

Isaac in turn fathered two sons, Jacob and Esau. Some of Muhammad's followers try to lay claim to being of the seed of Isaac, by way of Esau, however Esau traded away his inheritance for "bread and pottage of lentiles".

Genesis 25:30 And Esau said to Jacob, Feed me, I pray thee, with that same red [pottage]; for I [am] faint: therefore was his name called Edom. {with...: Heb. with that red, with that red pottage} {Edom: that is Red} 31 And Jacob said, Sell me this day thy birthright. 32 And Esau said, Behold, I [am] at the point to die: and what profit shall this birthright do to me? {at...: Heb. going to die} 33 And Jacob said, Swear to me this day; and he sware unto him: and he sold his birthright unto Jacob.   Then Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentiles; and he did eat and drink, and rose up, and went his way: thus Esau despised [his] birthright.

Let alone that even a web search quickly reveals the immoral and unregenerate character of Esau enough to know one would not desire to be related to him in the first place.

We find some that claim to be of the seed of Ishmael today, behave just as was prophesied.

Genesis 16:11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou [art] with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction. 12 And he will be a wild man; his hand [will be] against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

The Promised Land has become the geopolitical focus of the world fulfilling boatloads of prophecy in the process. With the secular U.N. and the list of nations eager to facilitate the theft of more of the land of Israel - including our own administration - the following prophecy penned many hundreds of years before the Christian era reads more like a news headline, once again highlighting the two distinct camps surrounding Zionism.

Zechariah 12:3  And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Which side are you on?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbE4bRehJzk


Now that the followers of Muhammad and the secular anti-Zionists have likely clicked out of this video, and returned to planting their heads firmly back in the sand, let's look a little at the split within the "church" on Zionism. It isn't my intent to further divide the body of Christ, but to advance a search for truth, since Jesus IS truth, and all false doctrine is the work of Satan - the father of lies.

The division within the church regarding Zionism seems to be rooted in the eschatology a group adheres to, with partial-preterists and "replacement theology" generally coming down on the anti-Zionist side, and futurists supporting the Israeli Jews and Zionism. It is interesting to note that both of those nontraditional eschatologies, that were popularized in the 20th century, necessarily preclude even considering that Muhammad could be THE false prophet of the book of Revelation. This even as the most egregious - and only unpardonable - sin in Muhammad's religion is committed if a Muslim confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, while each and every Muslim must deny the crucifixion, death and resurrection of the Messiah and His atoning blood - the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel - as an article of their faith in THE false prophet Muhammad.

Please see the "traditional framework" video for more.

Partial-preterism and replacement theology influencing some leaders to such an extent that, after meeting with heads of the internationally recognized terrorist organization Hezbollah, Presbyterian church leaders proclaimed:

"We treasure the precious words of Hezbollah and your expression of goodwill toward the American people. Also we praise your initiative for dialogue and mutual understanding. We cherish these statements that bring us closer to you. As an elder of our church, I'd like to say that according to my recent experience, relations and conversations with Islamic leaders are a lot easier than dealings and dialogue with Jewish leaders."
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Whatever was exchanged at that meeting, it's apparent that these "church" "leaders" didn't have any idea as to what "taqiyyah", or Islamic subterfuge, dissimulation and lying in the way of Allah, is all about. The leaders of Hezbollah were likely telling them whatever kind of lie they thought they wanted to hear, while the Jewish leaders were giving it to them straight which is often not "easy". Did they know that Muhammad's followers are precluded from even making friends with them?

Sura 5:51 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. 

Suggesting a Muslim becomes "of" Jews and Christians. On that note, actual conversion to Christianity is punishable by death in Islamic tradition, and as practiced in some Islamic countries today as the penalty for "apostasy". Muhammad's followers are only allowed to create the appearance of friendship with a Jew or Christian with the singular goal of advancing Islam. That's also why a Muslim son is allowed to marry a Christian woman, some hoping to subvert her Christian community, while the daughter of a fundamental follower of Muhammad - who is effectively the property of her father - would never be allowed to marry a Christian or Jew. If one even considers it, she may be killed by  her own father, in what is ironically called an "honor killing". Which in truth, accomplishes the exact opposite, of preserving one's honor.

Try an Internet or YouTube search - islam honor killing
Then do a YouTube search - slavery in islam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsaPQ8jOqGo

You'll learn that the practice of capturing and enslaving Africans is still practiced in many areas controlled by Muhammad's true followers that get Islam, because slavery will always be OF Islam because Muhammad engaged in it, and their books prescribe it. Pressing Africans into slavery wasn't "officially" outlawed in Saudi Arabia and Yemen until 1962, UAE 1963, and Oman in 1970, and then only because of outside pressure because the rest of the world doesn't follow Muhammad.......yet. Traditionally this was one of the most important tools for spreading Islam because even if the first generation of slaves resisted, the second generation would have been exposed to enough indoctrination, to follow Muhammad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbE4bRehJzk

Whose side are you on?

The side that's throwing the "People of the Book" under the bus and praising Hezbollah while funding terror, and advancing "interfaith pluralism" like the "chrislam movement"?

A single verse from the Quran communicates all a Christian needs to know about any suggestion of common ground between Islam and Christianity.

Quran Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

What born again Christian saved by the blood of the Lamb of God could recognize THE false prophet Muhammad's declaration as being other than the exact opposite of the whole subject of the Gospel?

Try a search - divestment from Israel - to find the usual liberal suspects that include the Presbyterian Church, World Council of Churches, United Church of Christ, Church of England and the United Church of Canada, with the Anglican and Episcopal churches at least having discussed divestment. Groups of malleable university students that join them include the Muslim Student Union and the "Boycott, Divestment, and Sanction Campaign". The Nazis boycotted Jewish businesses as well. No surprise then that today's anti-Zionists include skinheads, Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan, to name a few.

The futurist part of the church supports, rather than boycotts, Jews and Israel. While their eschatology may not be any more sound than partial-preterism at least their hearts would seem to be in the right place.

Anti-Zionist "church" institutions and partial-preterist replacement theology may demonstrate the natural result of believing one knows the answer - to what the bible describes as a mystery - regarding faithful Jews in this new covenant era.

Romans 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

That was penned well after the cross.

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
28 As concerning the gospel, [they are] enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, [they are] beloved for the fathers' sakes. 29 For the gifts and calling of God [are] without repentance.

Enemies of the Gospel, but beloved. The Lord didn't blind some Jews to the Gospel to condemn them because:

2Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Please see the "Blindness God Gave Some Jews" video for more
Spirit of Slumber

I believe those irrevocable gifts referenced include the everlasting covenants Yahweh has with the seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob including the "everlasting" land covenant of Israel. Yet some in the "church" are working overtime to advance the displacement of the "People of the Book" from the land Yahweh gave us, with Gentiles that profess the exact opposite of the whole subject of the Gospel as an article of their faith in the false prophet Muhammad, who prostrate themselves toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca five times a day, and are committed to wiping the Jews out and turning Israel into another Islamist slave state.

Even though Muhammad's followers are prevented from befriending Christians and Jews this certainly doesn't mean that Christians are precluded from befriending them. Indeed we are called to love everyone. But encouraging them to remain on a path, that is in the opposite direction of the Gospel, is a peculiar way to express one's love for them. Since Jesus IS TRUTH any discussion comparing religions needs to begin IN TRUTH and honesty, with Sura 4:157. After the immediate and irreconcilable opposite nature to the Gospel is exposed, it might help to then point out that there is no historical or archaeological evidence that suggests that Mecca ever existed before the 4th century AD - inviting them to search the web for some such evidence - and that Islamic so-called "tradition" was all created in the 7th to 10th centuries without reference to any actual historical record from before the 6th century AD, yet it poses as thousands of years of pre-Muhammad history. This even as archaeological evidence ever-increasingly demonstrates the Scriptures to be a reliable record of ancient history.

Discussing anything else related to the Gospel, with someone that has been indoctrinated into putting their effort into DISbelief, may only serve to diminish the central subject of the crucifixion and resurrection, that we are tasked to preach in the first place.

1Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

In response to their inevitable charge that the bible has been "corrupted", it is constructive point out that one would have to believe that its whole subject had somehow become the exact opposite of what it had been - through an entire rewrite - both in the Gospel and in Old Testament prophecy. This even though by Muhammad's 7th century, the Gospel had been translated into every popular language, copied tens of thousands of times, and had been read all over the known world for centuries, when Muhammad committed what his followers can only imagine as the blunder of reciting:

Sura 5:47 Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel.

Since the Gospel preached throughout the whole known world in the 7th century was the same as it remains today, any claim that the Gospel is corrupted suggests their own "prophet's" recommendation was foolish, since the whole subject of that Gospel is the exact opposite of Muhammad's declaration that "they killed him not, nor crucified him".

From the Gospel:

Matthew 27:50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
Mark 15:39 And when the centurion, which stood over against him, saw that he so cried out, and gave up the ghost, he said, Truly this man was the Son of God.
Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

That's the testimony of four Apostles, one of whom was an eye witness, and all of whom were contemporary to the time. Shouldn't any sitting around a campfire and singing kumbaya with Muhammad's followers, be intended to help them overcome the delusion they suffer, by following THE false prophet Muhammad? Isn't pretending there is common ground between Christianity and the only anti-another-religion "religion" - by design - encouraging them to continue on their path, while trivializing the blood of Jesus in the process?

Revelation 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Sura 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!

1 John 2:22  Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father...

Whose side are you on?

The side that believes that 2500 years of persecution of Jews among Gentile nations was quite enough, and are sick to death of the compromises to their national security, that have been jammed down their throats by secular international powers?

Or the side of Nazis, skinheads the Ku Klux Klan, and those that believe themselves to be Christian but work with and fund internationally recognized terrorist organizations, whose goal is turning Israel into another Islamist slave state?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rl0rZObP-c

The following obviously refers to a group composed of "many", that have deceived themselves into believing they are Christians, with everyone in the "church" pointing to somebody else that these verses refer to.

Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Where is the "synagogue of Satan"?

Revelation 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive; 9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.

While understanding what a Jew is:

Romans 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither [is that] circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he [is] a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision [is that] of the heart, in the spirit, [and] not in the letter; whose praise [is] not of men, but of God.

We have forum sections dedicated to Zionism, preterism and futurism, and some of the annotations appearing on screen go to videos that detail some of these subjects more specifically. Please see the drop down menu for a lot of links on this and other subjects.

Since Islam crosses racial and ethnic lines, rather lashing out with lies and false accusations why not comment constructively by pointing out which part of the preceding is untrue? Please review the links in the drop-down menu for more on Islam in Muhammad's followers own words.

To quote Ellis Skolfield, author of "The False Prophet", who for over 30 years has written about the role of Islam in bible prophecy, as the final foe of God's people.....

"God is truth, so how well a person serves the Lord is not dependent on how artfully he can defend his doctrines, but on his willingness to seek out and follow the truth."

Please visit Fish House Ministries for more on Ellis Skolfield and Islam in bible prophecy.
For an introduction to the Gospel please visit IslamAndTheTruth.com
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