I was reading through the previous topic on the subject but I felt it was too late to give a reply to that so I started a new topic.
Sorry fern. I didn't notice this until today.
It isn't too late to post it on that related thread. I'll consolidate it with that one.
Simply ignore any warnings like "warning this thread hasn't been posted in for X days...."
Regarding the topic, Alberto Rivera is often mentioned ...........
Ribera owns the topic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_RiveraPerhaps the worst part is that his fiction presumes that Islamic historical fiction is true.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1870.msg7640#msg7640........ but I watched a video a while a go about the subject of the creation of Islam, which goes much further. I'm not sure if Walter Veith is a reliable source of information, but he seems fairly convincing, and he thinks the ancient orders and secret societies are involved (Freemasons, Knights Templar, Illuminati and The Ancient Arabic Order Of The Nobles of the Mystic Shrine, etc.) in the creation and manipulation of Islam and notes how Islamic secret societies are linked to Judeo-Christian ones as well as showing many Pagan influences in both Catholicism and Islam.
A far better source on pagan influence in traditions that some men adopted the Christian
religion is "Pagan Christianity" by 100 year old elder Frank Viola.
Regarding pagan influences in Roman Catholicism and Islam we have a thread on a video of that as well. Maybe it's the same video. [edit add: as I later learned it is the same video]
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2522.0He seems to have traveled the world (so he says) and provides lots of pictures to back-up his claims. Anyone whose patient enough to watch the whole video (1hr:27mins long) - I want your take. This is not his only lecture and he has lots on the channel known as "OfficialADTV" (AD = Amazing Dsicoveries) which he shares with one or two other people, though this one grabbed my attention more than the others.
His website:
http://walterveith.com/
One of his critics (but really an anti- Seven Day Adventist site; I don't know what's wrong with them .........
If by "them" you mean SDA, it's a cult that follows the false prophetess Ellen White, who followed the false prophet William Miller, of the Millerites.
Any time you wonder about a small group like this, best to first do a search like -
recovery from cult sda - and read what those that had been indoctrinated have to say about it.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=24.0The fact that they feel the need to sue websites of EX-SDA Christians, in my estimation, takes them takes them down to the level of Scientology. They can't trust Jesus to fight their battle for them because they aren't walking in truth, and Jesus IS truth.
......... and it has nothing do with the video on Islam):
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Seventh-Day%20Adventist/walter_veith_heretic.htm
The video I'm referring to:
(The Islamic Connection / Total Onslaught - Walter Veith)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCmSBfVXEmA
Once you understand that a group is a cult that follows a false prophet it is best not to trust anything they teach. There is no need for you to risk injuring yourself with it. We have another thread that exposes the SDA's recruiting propaganda "Amazing Discoveries"
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3179.0As I just discovered as I posted this reply, I got sucked into their propaganda by the same video you found. As he does in all cults, the enemy knows he has to mix in truth, in order to get folks to bite. If they weren't a cult they wouldn't have to make their identity so obscure, in their attempt to brainwash and recruit through their "Amazing Discoveries".
Not a single SDA has ever been able to answer me when I ask them to show me which, of the four verses that contain the term "antichrist", the Roman church is guilty of transgressing. They seem to believe folks are saved as a result of the doctrine we keep, rather than the condition of our hearts.
