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If you are arguing that Bukhari, like the Quran, is just a book full of lies and fantasies, we already knew that. I put that tripe in here for the entertainment value. A phony book that Muslims place second only to the Quran in terms of divine inspiration. Of course since Islam is an anti-Gospel, antichrist, anti-religion that comes from straight out of the pit of hell, we know who inspired it. The father of lies himself - Satan. I recommend you quit focusing on monkeys and start with the fact that Mecca did not exist before the 4th century AD.
http://www.historyofmecca.com/

Which proves unequivocally, that the entirety of pre-5th century Islamic so-called "tradition" is nothing more than a work of pure fiction.
Even Muslim Eastern History teachers with a capacity to be honest with themselves recognize this.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2859.0

Better yet, start with the fact that Muhammad's anti-religion is as perfectly the exact opposite of the Gospel, as the negative is to a photograph.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/

That Muhammad was just as much the exact opposite of Jesus Christ.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jesus_or_muhammad.htm

AS USUAL YOU MISS THE LESSON IN ETTIQUETTE OF DEBATING

MY POINT THAT I ILLUSTRATED IS THAT YOU A LIAR< A CONJECTURER AND DOWNRIGHT RUDE>

Your choice of words indicates a heart filled with enmity and hatred for the creation of God.
You speak ill of the scholars with no basis, no valid proof other than they are Muslim and Arab

JESUS WAS A MUSLIM (HE SUBMITTED HIS WILL TO THE WILL OF GOD)
JESUS WAS THE SAME FAMILY OF THE ARABS. THE OFFSPRING OF ABRAHAM

WE ARE ALL THE CHILDREN OF ADAM AND DIVIDED INTO DIFFERENT NATIONS FOR PURPOSES OF RECOGNITION>!!!!!!

YOU HAVE NOT BROUGHT A SINGLE SGRED OF EVIDENCE (JUMPING TO WILD CONCLUSIONS IS NOT EVIDENCE) FALS ACCUSATIONS IS MUCH LESS EVIDENCE< THE LIES OF CONJECTURES MAKING IF THEN STATEMENTS

SO WHO IS THE LIAR, WHOI HATH GOD MADE THE LIAR!!!!!!!
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Re: Re: An Arab even stoned a "she-monkey" for "illegal sexual intercourse"
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2014, 06:32:05 PM »
If you are arguing that Bukhari, like the Quran, is just a book full of lies and fantasies, we already knew that. I put that tripe in here for the entertainment value. A phony book that Muslims place second only to the Quran in terms of divine inspiration. Of course since Islam is an anti-Gospel, antichrist, anti-religion that comes from straight out of the pit of hell, we know who inspired it. The father of lies himself - Satan. I recommend you quit focusing on monkeys and start with the fact that Mecca did not exist before the 4th century AD.
http://www.historyofmecca.com/

Which proves unequivocally, that the entirety of pre-5th century Islamic so-called "tradition" is nothing more than a work of pure fiction.
Even Muslim Eastern History teachers with a capacity to be honest with themselves recognize this.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2859.0

Better yet, start with the fact that Muhammad's anti-religion is as perfectly the exact opposite of the Gospel, as the negative is to a photograph.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/

That Muhammad was just as much the exact opposite of Jesus Christ.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jesus_or_muhammad.htm

AS USUAL YOU MISS THE LESSON IN ETTIQUETTE OF DEBATING

MY POINT THAT I ILLUSTRATED IS THAT YOU A LIAR< A CONJECTURER AND DOWNRIGHT RUDE>

Your choice of words indicates a heart filled with enmity and hatred for the creation of God.
You speak ill of the scholars with no basis, no valid proof other than they are Muslim and Arab

JESUS WAS A MUSLIM (HE SUBMITTED HIS WILL TO THE WILL OF GOD)
JESUS WAS THE SAME FAMILY OF THE ARABS. THE OFFSPRING OF ABRAHAM

WE ARE ALL THE CHILDREN OF ADAM AND DIVIDED INTO DIFFERENT NATIONS FOR PURPOSES OF RECOGNITION>!!!!!!

YOU HAVE NOT BROUGHT A SINGLE SGRED OF EVIDENCE (JUMPING TO WILD CONCLUSIONS IS NOT EVIDENCE) FALS ACCUSATIONS IS MUCH LESS EVIDENCE< THE LIES OF CONJECTURES MAKING IF THEN STATEMENTS

SO WHO IS THE LIAR, WHOI HATH GOD MADE THE LIAR!!!!!!!

That's easy. Who did God make the liar?

1John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

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Re: Re: An Arab even stoned a "she-monkey" for "illegal sexual intercourse"
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2014, 06:51:34 PM »
If you are arguing that Bukhari, like the Quran, is just a book full of lies and fantasies, we already knew that. I put that tripe in here for the entertainment value. A phony book that Muslims place second only to the Quran in terms of divine inspiration. Of course since Islam is an anti-Gospel, antichrist, anti-religion that comes from straight out of the pit of hell, we know who inspired it. The father of lies himself - Satan. I recommend you quit focusing on monkeys and start with the fact that Mecca did not exist before the 4th century AD.
http://www.historyofmecca.com/

Which proves unequivocally, that the entirety of pre-5th century Islamic so-called "tradition" is nothing more than a work of pure fiction.
Even Muslim Eastern History teachers with a capacity to be honest with themselves recognize this.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2859.0

Better yet, start with the fact that Muhammad's anti-religion is as perfectly the exact opposite of the Gospel, as the negative is to a photograph.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/

That Muhammad was just as much the exact opposite of Jesus Christ.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jesus_or_muhammad.htm

AS USUAL YOU MISS THE LESSON IN ETTIQUETTE OF DEBATING

MY POINT THAT I ILLUSTRATED IS THAT YOU A LIAR<.........

Not according to the scriptures.

1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

........ A CONJECTURER .......

Not according to scripture, history, archaeology and geography. The very same elements that demonstrate Muhammadanism to be a preposterous lie.
http://www.historyofmecca.com/

Let alone including, as Arabian history informs us, recycled pagan Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn-devil worship rituals.
http://petewaldo.com/hajj_umrah.htm

....... AND DOWNRIGHT RUDE>

It is difficult to remain civil, with someone who has come in here dozens of times, and always with a mouth spewing Satan's pure, raw blasphemy, against my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. But then that's because you follow the false prophet Muhammad alone, in the spirit of antichrist of his/Satan's anti-religion.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islam_is_antichrist.htm

Your choice of words indicates a heart filled with enmity and hatred for the creation of God.
You speak ill of the scholars with no basis, no valid proof other than they are Muslim and Arab

I never criticized them for being Arabs. That they are Muslim does demonstrate they are brainwashed liars. That they ignore history further demonstrates they are no more scholar than you. EXCEPT this Muslim Eastern History teacher who still possesses the capacity to be honest about the history of Mecca:
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2859.0

JESUS WAS A MUSLIM .........

Filthy blasphemous lie on so  many levels.
Muhammad didn't invent his anti-religion until the 7th century AD.
Mecca did not exist before the 4th century AD.
The Arabic language did not even exist when Jesus was on earth.
Jesus is a Jew.

....... (HE SUBMITTED HIS WILL TO THE WILL OF GOD)
JESUS WAS THE SAME FAMILY OF THE ARABS.

A lie because Jesus is a Jew. I'm a Jew by adoption. You are of the "children of the flesh" who were specifically cut out of God's covenant with Abraham and the seed of his son Isaac.
http://petewaldo.com/children_flesh.htm

Gen 21:9 And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, which she had born unto Abraham, mocking. 10 Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, [even] with Isaac. 11 And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son. 12 And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.
http://www.israelinbibleprophecy.com/

Romans 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, [are they] all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these [are] not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Galatians 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he [who was] of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman [was] by promise. 24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. 25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. 26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

THE OFFSPRING OF ABRAHAM

WE ARE ALL THE CHILDREN OF ADAM AND DIVIDED INTO DIFFERENT NATIONS FOR PURPOSES OF RECOGNITION>!!!!!!

The scriptures only recognize two physical groups. Jews and Gentiles.

YOU HAVE NOT BROUGHT A SINGLE SGRED OF EVIDENCE (JUMPING TO WILD CONCLUSIONS IS NOT EVIDENCE) FALS ACCUSATIONS IS MUCH LESS EVIDENCE< THE LIES OF CONJECTURES MAKING IF THEN STATEMENTS

SO WHO IS THE LIAR, WHOI HATH GOD MADE THE LIAR!!!!!!!

That's easy to answer.

1John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

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Re: Re: An Arab even stoned a "she-monkey" for "illegal sexual intercourse"
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2014, 01:26:55 AM »
If you are arguing that Bukhari, like the Quran, is just a book full of lies and fantasies, we already knew that. I put that tripe in here for the entertainment value. A phony book that Muslims place second only to the Quran in terms of divine inspiration. Of course since Islam is an anti-Gospel, antichrist, anti-religion that comes from straight out of the pit of hell, we know who inspired it. The father of lies himself - Satan. I recommend you quit focusing on monkeys and start with the fact that Mecca did not exist before the 4th century AD.
http://www.historyofmecca.com/


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Not according to the scriptures.

1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

Quote from: PeteWaldo on February 03, 2014, 06:32:05 PM

Yes according to scripture you a liar, Jesus peace be upon him did not say he is GOD or the literal son of God. That is pure Conjecture.
He That believeth on? is it not in ???  IN that time the Prophet to follow was Jesus. That is True but No where in the Bible does it say pray to me.
The prayer is not "Jesus the son who art in heaven, Everyone prays "OUR FATHER WHO ART IN HEAVEN"
Lies is better told in ambiguous statements.

The Way the scribes wrote the Bible leaves the verses open to conjecture and speculation. In other words it was deliberately transcribed and explained in manner that leads the reader to a certain conclusion.

Lets see what Christianity has led to: In the time of the Romans, 27 Gospels but only 4 was accepted, the HERETICS WERE CAPTURED AND PUT TO DEATH

The greatest library of the time in Alexandria was sacked and turned into a barn for animals-

Then followed the cleansing, burn anyone that disagreed with the Church- To this day democracy of the West id forced down the throats of the most exploited nations. Instead of charity and goodwill the churches encourage subjugation to the West not God.

Then came the Crusades and Inquisition. The Murder of innocent people throughout the world was carried out by Christians.

More than 250000 Muslims killed and 250000 Muslims expelled (forcibly removed from Spain) by one Monarch Queen Isabella after she was told of the lavish lifestyles of the Muslims. Then she sent her armies in the name of her GOD to go to destroy the people of South America. They still have not recovered from their Christian ordeal.

Today we don't say it is the Christian nations that invade and kill people in their own country but we know who you are. List the countries that was invaded by UK, France, Germany, America, Spain, Italy and Australia (NATO)  all predominantly Christian Countries. Then give me a list of Muslim countries that have invaded another country from the 15th century, (modern ERA) IRAN invaded ZERO COUNTRIES
IRAN HAS NEVER FIRED A ROCKET AT ANY COUNTRY EXCEPT ITS NEIGHBOR THAT WAS BACKED BY USA TO DESTROY THEM.

YOUR PROPAGANDA BRAINWASHING MACHINE (the media) DID A GOOD JOB On your and all the misguided western nations to the extant that you can't think for yourself without switching on the news. ALL THE WRONG INFORMATION YOU HAVE IS A BIASD LIE FROM UNGODLY REPORTERS (FROM THE TIME OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE).

Peter try to repent your most heinous of sin (BLASPHEMY) THE LORD YOUR GOD IS ONE (NOT THREE IN ONE)

ABRAHAM IS A MUSLIM, MOSES IS A MUSLIM, DAVID IS A MUSLIM, JESUS IS A MUSLIM- THEY MAY HAVE BELONGED TO THE BANI ISRAEL (NOT A RELIGION BUT A NATION) that was chosen to lead mankind to Islam. Not Judaism.

You are so confused, the lies that you were fed and the brainwashing that you have endured renders you helpless and hopeless in the face of the truth.

ABRAHAM declared THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH.
MOSES declared THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH
DAVID, SOLOMON, JOHN THE BAPTIST, AND JESUS ALL DECLARED, THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH>

SAY THE WORDS HEAR YE O" Israel the lord your GOD is one into Aramaic or Hebrew. Let me give you a hint. QUL arrabbuna ALLAH hu Aghad.





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Re: Re: An Arab even stoned a "she-monkey" for "illegal sexual intercourse"
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2014, 04:59:43 AM »
Yes according to scripture you a liar,......

Come on Muj, who's the liar? Another blizzard of lies still won't hide the truth. Let's try it again. The verse reads:

1John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

You accuse me of being a liar, but who do the scriptures indicate is the liar, Muj?

Do you believe the record that God gave of his Son, or are you a liar, according to that scripture?


.... Jesus ..... did not say he is .... the literal son of God. That is pure Conjecture.

Even Muslims are supposed to believe that Mary, as a virgin, conceived Jesus solely by the direct will of God. Do you believe Mary conceived Jesus all by herself? Even you can't believe that Mary was Jesus' mother and father, since Mary was only human.
So who is Jesus' Father?
Who caused Mary to conceive His Son Jesus?

God Himself even proclaimed His Son:
Matthew 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Matthew 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
Mark 1:11 And there came a voice from heaven, [saying], Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Luke 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
2Peter 1:17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

The Old Testament prophesied of a Promised Son:

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Psalms 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art] my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Confirmed as fulfilled just as prophesied in Acts 13:33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/jesus_the_son_of_god.htm

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Re: Re: An Arab even stoned a "she-monkey" for "illegal sexual intercourse"
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2014, 11:41:08 AM »
Yes according to scripture you a liar, Jesus ..... did not say he is .... the literal son of God. That is pure Conjecture.

Let's not forget Matthew 11:25-29

25 At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes. 26 Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. 27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him. 28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”

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Re: Re: An Arab even stoned a "she-monkey" for "illegal sexual intercourse"
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2014, 03:52:10 PM »
Yes according to scripture you a liar, Jesus ..... did not say he is .... the literal son of God. That is pure Conjecture.

Let's not forget Matthew 11:25-29

25 At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes. 26 Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. 27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him. 28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”

THIS 100% True in the time of Jesus when he was on Earth. It even starts with AT THAT TIME: not O' you after me take heed, Nor O' mankind.
It is written in the first person where Jesus is addressing those present.
ALL THE PROPHETS ARE SONS OF GOD>

In that time no-one knew God, as they went astray and in order to know God you had to follow Jesus (peace be upon him)

WELL, THE PEOPLE AFTER JESUS WENT ASTRAY AND GOD SENT THE FINAL MESSENGER TO LEAD THEM TO THE RIGHT PATH AS GOD DID IN THE PAST EVERY-TIME MANKIND WENT ASTRAY>



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Re: Re: An Arab even stoned a "she-monkey" for "illegal sexual intercourse"
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2014, 02:39:43 AM »
Yes according to scripture you a liar,......

Come on Muj, who's the liar? Another blizzard of lies still won't hide the truth. Let's try it again. The verse reads:

1John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

You accuse me of being a liar, but who do the scriptures indicate is the liar, Muj?

Do you believe the record that God gave of his Son, or are you a liar, according to that scripture?


.... Jesus ..... did not say he is .... the literal son of God. That is pure Conjecture.

Even Muslims are supposed to believe that Mary, as a virgin, conceived Jesus solely by the direct will of God. Do you believe Mary conceived Jesus all by herself? Even you can't believe that Mary was Jesus' mother and father, since Mary was only human.
So who is Jesus' Father?
Who caused Mary to conceive His Son Jesus?

God Himself even proclaimed His Son:
Matthew 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Matthew 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
Mark 1:11 And there came a voice from heaven, [saying], Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Luke 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
2Peter 1:17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

The Old Testament prophesied of a Promised Son:

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Psalms 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art] my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Confirmed as fulfilled just as prophesied in Acts 13:33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/jesus_the_son_of_god.htm

Who caused everything to come into existence, its not a miracle as you are duped, Jesus was conceived by Mary without a father,
Adam was created without a Mother and father, Eve was created without a mother and a father. Whether God uses clay, a rib or sperm or just a womb is of consequence to God. GOD THE ALMIGHTY CREATES WHEN HE WILLS AS HE WILLS. Your bible writers conjecture and opinions has nothing to do with reality.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/who-wrote-the-bible

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Re: Re: An Arab even stoned a "she-monkey" for "illegal sexual intercourse"
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2014, 03:52:23 AM »
Yes according to scripture you a liar,......

Come on Muj, who's the liar? Another blizzard of lies still won't hide the truth. Let's try it again. The verse reads:

1John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

You accuse me of being a liar, but who do the scriptures indicate is the liar, Muj?

Do you believe the record that God gave of his Son, or are you a liar, according to that scripture?


.... Jesus ..... did not say he is .... the literal son of God. That is pure Conjecture.

Even Muslims are supposed to believe that Mary, as a virgin, conceived Jesus solely by the direct will of God. Do you believe Mary conceived Jesus all by herself? Even you can't believe that Mary was Jesus' mother and father, since Mary was only human.
So who is Jesus' Father?
Who caused Mary to conceive His Son Jesus?

God Himself even proclaimed His Son:
Matthew 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Matthew 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
Mark 1:11 And there came a voice from heaven, [saying], Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Luke 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
2Peter 1:17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

The Old Testament prophesied of a Promised Son:

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Psalms 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art] my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Confirmed as fulfilled just as prophesied in Acts 13:33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/jesus_the_son_of_god.htm

Who caused everything to come into existence, its not a miracle as you are duped, Jesus was conceived by Mary without a father,
Adam was created without a Mother and father, Eve was created without a mother and a father. Whether God uses clay, a rib or sperm or just a womb is of consequence to God. GOD THE ALMIGHTY CREATES WHEN HE WILLS AS HE WILLS. Your bible writers conjecture and opinions has nothing to do with reality.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/who-wrote-the-bible

Who Wrote the Bible
Page:   1
Bible's Different Authors Revealed By New Language Software
AP | By MATTI FRIEDMAN | Posted 08.29.2011 | Religion
Read More: Bible Authors, Christianity, Linguistics, Bible, Bible Software, Who Wrote the Bible, Judaism, Bible Linguistics, Religion News
JERUSALEM -- Software developed by an Israeli team is giving intriguing new hints about what researchers believe to be the multiple hands that wrote t...

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How The Language Of The Bible Has Changed
Posted 07.06.2011 | Religion
Read More: New Testament Changes, Scripture, Christianity, New Testament, Bible Changes, Bible, Who Wrote the Bible, Religion News
By Bruce Nolan Religion News Service NEW ORLEANS -- Working in a cluster of offices above a LifeWay Christian Bookstore, Bible scholars are buried...

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Who Wrote The Bible And Why It Matters
Bart D. Ehrman | Posted 05.26.2011 | Religion
Read More: Christianity, 1 Timothy, The Bible, Paul's Letters, 2 Peter, Early Christianity, Epistles, Biblical Authors, Christian History, Bible Authorship, Who Wrote the Bible, Religion News
Bart D. Ehrman
Many of the books of the New Testament were written by people who lied about their identity, claiming to be a famous apostle -- Peter, Paul, or James. In modern parlance, that is a lie.

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New evidence emerges everyday that proves that the Bible (BOOK) is just that a book, written by unknown authors but the authenticity is unverified it is uncorroborated, the copies of copies of unknown authors leaves one to doubt it'd words and the contradiction of the issues of faith are too obvious to accept as the authors did not thoroughly think it through. A pity we have lost the words of the Prophets to scribes and Pharisees.

There you go Muj! At least you finally admit it! You hate Yahweh. You hate His scriptures, You hate His prophets and witnesses. You hate Jesus Christ. At least we finally have this tacit admission!

You only further demonstrated you are a liar, by citing the famous Godless agnostic Bart Ehrman among a raft of other Messiah deniers and liars. I'll bet you didn't even google the other authors, like Matti Friedman. As a Muhammadan aren't you supposed to be hating Jews, and working toward their mass-murder, the way Muhammad and the Mufti of Jerusalem did?
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islam_and_jews.htm
Instead here you are championing those that deny that Jesus is the Messiah. The Godless out there grinding their own axes, while duping those they can. So you are denying that Jesus is the Messiah now.

Do you really believe that no matter how hard you search for the most Godless among the accusers of the Gospel, that you will find someone who offers a reason to reject every one of hundreds of verses that reveal the Father and the Son? Come on Muj.

Copy and pasting unsupportable spam that you are absolutely clueless about, indeed anything just as long as it blasphemed Yahweh, because you have now chosen to run with the Godless liars. You'll do anything to justify continuing to follow Satan's lies through his mass-murdering, child doing, prisoner raping, thief, messenger Muhammad.

You cannot deny that you follow Muhammad alone, even preferring filthy secular blasphemy, against the one true God of the scriptures.

Yet even Ehrman is less of a liar than you:

"In fact Bart Ehrman defends Apostle Paul as an early reliable source of information for the life of Jesus. Ehrman contends that, based on the evidence, the Apostle Paul knew the original disciples of Jesus and became one of them."
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2558.0

Even Ehrman isn't foolish enough to deny that that Christ was crucified, because the historical record is too compelling:

"In his work ‘The New Testament: A Historical Introduction to the Early Christian Writings,’ he states:
In any event, Tacitus's report confirms what we know from other sources, that Jesus was executed by order of the Roman governor of Judea, Pontius Pilate.2"

Muj, any run of the mill antichrist can cluelessly copy and paste atheists, agnostics, cultists and other liars, all day long. This is why we don't allow spamming in the forum. There is no shortage of Godless people for you to run with. You are comfortable with the Godless because you all share the same spirit of ANTICHRIST. You are all liars, according to the scriptures.

1John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

Let alone that you are indicating that your own "messenger" was a lying fool for having said:

Sura 80.13 (It is) in Books held (greatly) in honour, 14 Exalted (in dignity), kept pure and holy,15 (Written) by the hands of scribes- 16 Honourable and Pious and Just.

Sura 48.29 ... This is their similitude in the Taurat; and their similitude in the Gospel is: like a seed which sends forth its blade, then makes it strong; it then becomes thick, and it stands on its own stem, (filling) the sowers with wonder and delight. As a result, it fills the Unbelievers with rage at them. Allah has promised those among them who believe and do righteous deeds forgiveness, and a great Reward.

He even described you Muj! Just look at the blind flailing rage you've reduced yourself to! Raging against the truth, while painting your own messenger to be a fool!

Sura 5:47 Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel.

This is the Islam-Christian forum Muj, not the Godless atheist and agnostic forum.
You have fully plunged into the pop-culture of the very Godless Hollywood reprobate worldly people, that you then hypocritically turn around and pretend to rail against. Yet now we find you are OF them, my friend.

However if you are going to copy and paste things from the Godless that you simultaneously insist on self-imposed abject ignorance to, I recommend you confine yourself to the section of the forum dedicated to the willfully Godless, since that is where we take the willful unregenerate to task. Those who willfully reject God, as compared to those who have been fooled into believing they worship God, but have been fooled into worshiping Satan through his messenger Muhammad.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/

You can Google the debate between Bart Ehrman and Lane Craig in which Craig hands Ehrman his head on a platter. Ah but then you really only want one side of the story, don't you? Satan's side, so you can keep running with the antichrist liars. Anything that will help you blaspheme Jesus Christ and the one true God and the scriptures of the Jews and Christians. Just as prophesied of you:
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/blasphemy_laws.htm#islam_is_blasphemy

We do not allow spamming in this forum.

Now address the content of the prior post you ignored. Then please reply to Muhammad's rape of captives at the following link:
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1905.msg16184#msg16184
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Re: Re: An Arab even stoned a "she-monkey" for "illegal sexual intercourse"
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2014, 04:19:48 AM »
Let's try it again. The verse reads:

1John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

You accuse me of being a liar, but who do the scriptures indicate is the liar, Muj?

Do you believe the record that God gave of his Son, or are you a liar, according to that scripture?


There is only one answer, isn't there. The answer is that the scriptures indicate you are a liar. Period. Isn't that correct?

You can say as you indicated, that you choose to deny and blaspheme the scriptures of the one true God Yahweh as false, but then you are going to need to explain how the whole subject of the Gospel - indeed the whole Bible - is somehow the exact opposite of Muhammad's denial of it five centuries later.
 
You proclaim God has no Son because you are an antichrist, but then you are going to have to explain how the hundreds of verses got in there that proclaim the Father and the Son. Verses that are in the 5300 partial or complete manuscripts we have from prior to 300 AD.

You are going to have to explain the miracle of fulfilled Bible prophecy:
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/bible_prophecy.htm

Like how Jesus' crucifixion was prophesied so many hundreds of years in advance:
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/psalms_22.htm

And the blood the Lamb of God shed for us all as prophesied in Isaiah:
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/isaiah_53.htm

And the 6 million Jews ruling and reigning in Israel today, in fulfillment of so much Bible prophecy, that was anticipated by Christians through prophecy hundreds of years in advance of their restoration:
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=73.0

Compared to what Muj? A a single individual 7th century illiterate false prophet, with no fulfilled prophecy, indeed only false prophesies to his credit. Who your own books reveal as a mass-murdering, child doing, prisoner raping, terrorist thief.
A book that in fact created by guys like Waraqa bin Naufal, Jabr and Tubba.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=452.0

An anti-religion of a self-proclaimed but imitation intercessor in the person of a violent, imperialistic, innocent Jewish farm boy beheading, captive abusing, self-proclaimed "messenger" who founded an anti-religion - with a scripture-contrary, pre-Muhammad history-devoid, archaeology-absent, geographically-impossible, reality-denying Islamic so-called "tradition" - that masquerades as thousands of years of pre-Muhammad history, yet was all created and put to the pen in the 7th to 10th centuries AD without reference to any actual historical record that preceded the 5th century AD. An anti-religion with a carnal tradition of prostrating toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol and Kaaba in Mecca five times a day - located 1200 kilometers away from the Holy Land of the prophets and patriarchs - while praying in the "vain repetitions as the heathen do" in the names of the Arabian pagan deity "Allah" and his "messenger" Muhammad. Even performing thinly veneered Arabian moon, sun, star and jinn-devil worship rituals as the Quraish did before Muhammad was ever born, and "fasting" during Ramadan as the Sabian moon god worshipers did.

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Re: Re: An Arab even stoned a "she-monkey" for "illegal sexual intercourse"
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2014, 10:38:54 AM »
STOP lying, I did not once indicate hatred towards anything!!!! I hate Slanderous conjecturers

STOP SLANDERING: I LOVE GOD, I LOVE JESUS (PEACE BE UPON HIM) He is The Messiah, I love the Prophets. I hate work of the Scribes and PHARISEES THAT TWIST THE WORDS OF GOD.

I Believe The Injeel if you copuld show it to me but what you showing me is the writings of unknown authors, not the word given to Jesus, NONE OF THE GOSPELS INDICATE THAT IT IS THE WORD GIVEN TO JESUS BY GOD, that is pure conjecture

The BIBLE IS NOT THE EXACT OPPOSITE, It is exactly the Scripture, YOUR OPINION< CONJECTURE AND CONCLUSIONS ARE THE DIRECT OPPOSITE. THE OPINION OF THE ROMANS AND THE GREEK PHOLOSOPHERS IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE THAT YOU FOLLOW.

Muhammad peace be upon him consolidated the work and methodology of all the Prophets of GOD into a concise true way of the Prophets.
JESUS _ THE LORD YOUR GOD IS ONE!  Muhammad Laa ielaa ha ielallaah. There is No GOD BUT GOD

JESUS FASTED- Muhammad perfected the fasting for the entire mankind

Abraham- The pilgrimage and leaving of his infant in the desert, also the slaughtering of a Ram - HADJ

Moses- Do not worship the golden calf and ten commandments- Muhammad -Obey the commands of GOD as follows (all the laws of God is in the Quran

Muhammad prays like all the Prophets of before

Jesus fell on his face and prayed- WE make our five daily prayers in similar fashion

Jesus fed the poor - Zakaat (2.5% of wealth) is compulsory and saaqaat (charity) to give to the poor is stressed. Not enforced

David slew Goliath, The quran orders the removal the of the Oppressors

Samson killed 1000 men with the Jawbone of an ASS and burnt the crops, Muhammad orders the opposition of a forceful enemy with force. Tact

I don't think Christians do anything according to the Prophets, They read about it and argue about it but they never actually do it?

SO WHO IS THE LIAR, WHO SAYS ONE THING WITH HIS LIPS BUT HIS ACTION INDICATES SOMETHING ELSE!!!!!!!!!????????


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Re: Re: An Arab even stoned a "she-monkey" for "illegal sexual intercourse"
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2014, 11:41:22 AM »
STOP lying, I did not once indicate hatred towards anything!!!! I hate Slanderous conjecturers

STOP SLANDERING: I LOVE GOD, .........

Sure Muj. You just hate the God of the scriptures Yahweh as revealed through all of His prophets and witnesses, in His 1600 year record to mankind, whose people have followed Him through two covenants for 3500 years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragrammaton#Etymology

You simply prefer to refer to Him by the name of the Arabian pagan's moon god "Allah" instead, and reject His prophets and witnesses as revealed the 1600 year record of Yahweh to mankind, to follow Muhammad's heavily abrogated, STAND-ALONE, 23 year 7th century record. Why do you suppose it is that Muhammad's god "Allah" shares the name of the Arabian pagan's moon god? That Ramadan is practiced as the Sabian moon god worshipers practiced it?
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/the_name_allah.htm

.......I LOVE JESUS (PEACE BE UPON HIM) .........

You've only been fooled by liars like Deedat and Estes into parroting that lie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLnEZ4nUhoU

Even as you reject the blood that the Lamb of God that He shed for us all, for remission of sin.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/the_lamb_slain.htm

And even though Muhammad engaged in unspeakable blasphemy against Him:

"Ascension to Heaven, I saw (the prophet) Moses who was a thin person with lank hair, looking like one of the men of the tribe of Shanua; and I saw jesus who was of average height with red face as if he had just come out of a bathroom."
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=12.0

........ He is The Messiah, ........

Yet there you are, out hypocritically wallowing in the mud with those that reject that Jesus is the Messiah.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=3981.msg16186#msg16186
In perfect fulfillment of the scriptures in post after post, thread after thread:

2Pe 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

....... I love the Prophets. I hate work of the Scribes .........

So you hate your own messenger:

Sura 80.13 (It is) in Books held (greatly) in honour, 14 Exalted (in dignity), kept pure and holy,15 (Written) by the hands of scribes- 16 Honourable and Pious and Just.

........ and PHARISEES ......

Jesus was pretty impatient with them too. It just amazes me that you choose the same judgment, and reject atonement for your sins, to be separated from God forever as a result.

...... THAT TWIST THE WORDS OF GOD.

TWIST? You characterize the whole subject of the Bible as a "twist?
You characterize the hundreds of verses that reveal the Father and His Son a "twist"?
Can't even you see how broken your mind has become through Satan's spirit of antichrist?

I Believe The Injeel if you copuld show it to me.........

I have. It's the very same Injeel that had been translated into every popular language, copied tens of thousands of times, and had been read all over the known world by the time Muhammad declared:

Sura 5:47 Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel.

Sura 80.13 (It is) in Books held (greatly) in honour, 14 Exalted (in dignity), kept pure and holy,15 (Written) by the hands of scribes- 16 Honourable and Pious and Just.

While Muhammadans have NO GOSPEL WHATSOEVER, because you follow the father of lies - Satan - through his messenger Muhammad. He is dragging you right down into the pit of hell to join him.

....... but what you showing me is the writings of unknown authors, not the word given to Jesus, NONE OF THE GOSPELS INDICATE THAT IT IS THE WORD GIVEN TO JESUS BY GOD, that is pure conjecture

Thus recognizing your own messenger to be a liar. You have thus stripped yourself naked and Godless, as you stand before God.

The BIBLE IS NOT THE EXACT OPPOSITE, It is exactly the Scripture, YOUR OPINION< CONJECTURE AND CONCLUSIONS ARE THE DIRECT OPPOSITE.

That's the whole point Muj. It isn't about my words, but about how the verses from Gospel as compared to Muhammad's words from the Quran that reject the WHOLE SUBJECT OF THE GOSPEL.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/

It's as plain as God compared to Satan.
It's as plain as Jesus compared to the filthy blasphemer Muhammad:
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jesus_or_muhammad.htm

THE OPINION OF THE ROMANS AND THE GREEK PHOLOSOPHERS IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE THAT YOU FOLLOW.

Muhammad peace be upon him consolidated the work and methodology of all the Prophets of GOD into a concise true way of the Prophets.

But that's just another lie Muj. Muhammad specifically CONTRADICTED them. That is what makes Muhammad's ANTI-RELIGION ANTICHRIST.

JESUS _ THE LORD YOUR GOD IS ONE!  Muhammad Laa ielaa ha ielallaah. There is No GOD BUT GOD

It's always funny when Muhammadans do this in argument, even though it is confirmed in the Gospel.
Monotheism is not a religion Muj. The Harranian Sabian monotheistic moon god worshipers, from which Muhammad copied their tradition of Ramadan, were monotheistic moon god worshipers. Did monotheism make their religion of God?
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/origin_of_ramadan.htm

JESUS FASTED- Muhammad perfected the fasting for the entire mankind

No Muhammad copied the Arabian moon god worshipers.
If Muhammad perfected fasting, why do you suppose it is that Muhammad's followers spend more on food during the month that you "fast" than any other month of the year?
https://www.google.com/#q=more+money+spent+on+food+during+ramadan

The answer is that you are fasting for Satan, and nobody else. The EXACT OPPOSITE of fasting.

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Re: Re: An Arab even stoned a "she-monkey" for "illegal sexual intercourse"
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2014, 12:08:58 PM »
Abraham- The pilgrimage and leaving of his infant in the desert, also the slaughtering of a Ram - HADJ

Moses- Do not worship the golden calf .........

Yet there you are, prostrating yourself toward the Quraish pagan's black stone idol five times a day, while praying in the vain repetitions as the heathen do" in the names of the pagan Arabian deity "Allah" and his messenger Muhammad. Even traveling to the Quraish pagan's black stone idol and kaaba, to march around it as the Arabian pagans did long before Muhammad was ever born, and even kissing that idol purely because Muhammad did.
Which should demonstrate to you that is why you do everything Muhammad commanded his followers to do, BECAUSE YOU FOLLOW MUHAMMAD ALONE.

........ and ten commandments- Muhammad -Obey the commands of GOD as follows (all the laws of God is in the Quran

Few comments you have ever made are more absolutely insane than this one. Muhammadans don't even keep the Sabbath.

Muhammad prays like all the Prophets of before

No, Muhammad copied the Sabian moon god worshipers who:
prostrated in prayer
performed ablution
fasted during the same month because of their moon worship
prayed five times a day
prayed in vain repetitions of the heathen
and wore long white robes

Sound familiar Muj? Muhammad was so deep into the Sabians before he invented his anti-religion, that some of his tribe the Quraish often referred to him simply as "the Sabian".
http://www.petewaldo.com/sabians_islam.htm

Jesus fell on his face and prayed- WE make our five daily prayers in similar fashion

An instance, does not make an ordinance. We are specifically instructed how to pray and specifically how NOT to pray:

1Th 5:17 Pray without ceasing.

It's about relationship Muj, not satanic moon god worship rituals.

Mat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Jesus fed the poor - Zakaat (2.5% of wealth) is compulsory and saaqaat (charity) to give to the poor is stressed. Not enforced

We know where the bulk of it goes, and that is for financing international terrorism. Just like when Muhammad imposed it to finance his imperialistic conquest and subjugation of non-Muslims.

David slew Goliath, The quran orders the removal the of the Oppressors

Gwaffaw!!! How do you come up with such HYPOCRITICAL foolishness? Muhammadans ARE THE IMPERIALISTIC OPPRESSORS as they have been for 1400 years.

"Summarized Sahih Al-Bukhari" - Maktba Dar-us-Salam's page 580
Chapter 2. The best among the people is that believer who strives his utmost in Allah's Cause with both his life and property.
footnotes:
[1] "Al-Jihad (the holy fighting) in Allah's Cause (with full force of number and weaponry) is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars (on which it stands). By Jihad Islam is established, Allah's Word is made superior, [His Word being La ilaha ill-Allah (which means: none has the right to be worshipped but Allah)] and His Religion (Islam) is propagated. By abandoning Jihad (may Allah protect us from that) Islam is destroyed and the Muslims fall into an inferior position; there honour is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim, and he who tries to escape from this duty, or does not in his innermost heart wish to fulfill this duty, dies with one of the qualities of a hypocrite.
[2] Of course, nobody can offer Salat (prayer) and observe Saum (fast) incessantly, and since the Muslim fighter is rewarded as if he was doing such good impossible deeds, no possible deed equals Jihad in reward.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jihad_islamic_terrorism.htm#muslim_hypocrites

1400 continuous years of slavery and oppression
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islamic_slavery_dhimmitude.htm


Samson killed 1000 men with the Jawbone of an ASS and burnt the crops, Muhammad orders the opposition of a forceful enemy with force. Tact

No Muhammad ordered the imperialistic conquest and subjugation, of formerly peaceful, free, peoples. What do you think he and his fellow cutthroat reprobate rapists were doing up in France and Austria.
Inciting people to defend their innocent families, communities and property the whole way up.
The very property that Muhammad lusted after, as much as he lusted after rape of captives.

I don't think Christians do anything according to the Prophets, They read about it and argue about it but they never actually do it?

What do you think we Christians are doing here?


While your blasphemy provides a very valuable opportunity, to show Muhammadans that are lurking the forum while genuinely seeking the truth, to see in no uncertain terms that it is time for them to run from THE false prophet Muhammad like scalded dogs.

SO WHO IS THE LIAR, WHO SAYS ONE THING WITH HIS LIPS BUT HIS ACTION INDICATES SOMETHING ELSE!!!!!!!!!????????

That's easy:

1John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

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Re: Re: An Arab even stoned a "she-monkey" for "illegal sexual intercourse"
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2014, 12:33:54 PM »
YOU ARE SO BRAINWASHED WITH DEVIATION ITS A VERY DIFFICULT TASK TO EVEN COMPREHEND YOUR STATE OF MIND

JESUS IS NOT GOD, I AM JUDGING BY ALL THE SCRIPTURE, HE THAT HATH THE SON, IS NOT THE SAME SENTENCE AS JESSUS IS GOD!!!!!

I AM JUDGING BY WHAT ALLAH HAS REVEALED AND ALL I ENCOUNTER IN MEN LIKE YOU AND THE SCRIBES< TRANSLATORS< INTERPRETERS< THE VERSION WRITERS AND THE PRIESTS OF THE CHURCH DO NOTHING BUT TWIST YOUR MIND.

I WAS A MSULIM LONG BEFORE DEEDAT AND ESTES WAS INTRODUCED TO ME>

MY FAITH IS NOT BASED ON NOT HAVING CAREFULLY EXAMINED ALL THE WRITINGS OF GOD FROM GREEK AND ROMAN MYTHOLOGY, SVANDINAVIAN MYTHOLOGY< THE BAGAVATH GITAS<THE VEDAS< THE OLD TESTAMENT< THE NEW TESTAMENT AND MY STUDY OF THE QURAN HAS REVEALED:

1. GOD HAS SENT PROPHETS TO THE WORLD TO PROCLAIM HIS ONENESS AFTER DEVIATION HAD OCCURRED AFTER THE TIME OF ADAM>

2. GOD CONTINUED TO SEND PROPHETS TO ALL OF MANKIND TO INVITE THEM TO THE ONENESS?UNIQUENESS OF ALLAH.

3. Man deviated and deviated due top his sinful nature (hips desires/nafs) corrupting his soul

4. Scripture was lost but kept pure in the Quran.

5 The chosen race (Bani Israel (not the Jew) was chosen to lead mankind to ALLAH. They however rebelled and deviated

6. God Sent Jesus to invite them to the straight path one last time and they tried to kill him. (fortunately they did not succeed) as he has to return to kill Dajjal (antichrist)

7. Muhammad was chosen to lead mankind back to GOD as all the scripture was now opinions and versions of the original. (how many version of the BIBLE are there in English alone? How many differences between Torah and Old testament. How many arguments of interpretations of the words of the Prophets.  How many sects and divisions and churches ? How many Jewish sects? How many deviations?

Your interpretation is another deviation.

YOU PROVE THE NEED FOR ISLAM IN THE WORLD.

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Re: The most deadly and ONLY UNFORGIVABLE sin in Islam - "shirk"
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2014, 09:01:56 AM »
Regarding the Israeli self-defense of their democracy, from the imperialistic aggression of Muhammadan slavery, one only has to look at who TARGETS whom.
http://www.zionismchristian.com/palestine_palestinians.htm#muslims_target_civilians

SAMSON KILLED 1000 men with the Jawbone of an ass, David Slew Goliath, there has always been an Army for God on earth, there will always be one

Therein lies the Satanic delusion you suffer Muj. Citing individual incidents and specific historical events of 3,000 years ago, regarding Yahweh using His faithful people to bring judgment to Satan's people - to pretend they justify the inverse in the 7th century mass murder, imperialistic aggression, prisoner rape, terrorism and thievery of Islam - of Satan's people murdering and raping Yahweh's people (the people of the scripture book as the Quran aptly puts it), is purely of Satan. Why can't even you see that Muj?

In order to support even this bankrupt suggestion you would to have to show us where, even in the old covenant, Yahweh issued an open ended call to violence against others. Where did Yahweh gave instruction to his people, to begin a never ending conquering and subjugation of all people to Judaism, in perpetuity. Of course you can't, because there is not a single verse in the Old Testament that supports such reprobate satanic commands as we find in Satan's cult:

Bukhari, V1 B2 #24 Narrated Ibn 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle.....
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jihad_islamic_terrorism.htm

As Don Richardson points out in "Secrets of the Koran", "By Muhammad's day, 1,500 years had passed since any Hebrew prophet was described in the Old Testament as using a sword in the service of God. Neither Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Micah, Amos, Malachi nor any other later Hebrew prophet is described as using the sword or prescribing its use."
http://www.petewaldo.com/old_testament_violence.htm

Imperialistic aggression against others is the product of hatred Muj, and hatred is inspired by Satan, the one that Muhammadans follow. What I quoted demonstrates the murderous condition of year heart.

However the good Lord does indeed have a standing army, and we couldn't be better equipped to fight against the powers of darkness that you follow:

Hbr 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Eph 6: 10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. 11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

Not some bunch of Satan's ninnies running around with swords, assigning themselves and Satan assigning them the task of slaughtering others, through imperialistic aggression.
Murderous moral reprobates such as these will find their reward in the lake of fire Muj.

The Question is are you willing to submit your will to the will of God.

Of course we are. We are here serving in God's army most every day, slaying Satan's Muhammadanism with the sword of the Spirit, the Word of God.

1Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Don't you ever wonder why Muhammad's alter-ego allah is such a pathetic, sniveling, pipsqueak that he would need mortal men to defend him? That your phony deity that the Arabian pagans named "Allah", can't even defend his heavily abrogated pile of tripe you call the Quran and Hadith, without men killing other men that point out what a pile of hogwash it is? Why would the pipsqueak you serve need his followers to censor the truth through the threat of death for blasphemy, let alone prevent his people from leaving his cult on pain of death - just like a Mafia Don?
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/blasphemy_laws.htm

The answer is simple Muj:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Didn't it ever make you even a little suspicious that the god that you follow - Satan - would make the only unforgivable sin in following him, to be if you confessed that Jesus is the Son of God or even prayed in Jesus name as Christians have for the last 2,000 years?

Your choice, your fate Muj:

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

So how can someone that pretends to have read scripture, not have noticed those verses?

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YOU ARE SO BRAINWASHED WITH DEVIATION ITS A VERY DIFFICULT TASK TO EVEN COMPREHEND YOUR STATE OF MIND

JESUS IS NOT GOD, I AM JUDGING BY ALL THE SCRIPTURE, ..........

You keep running and hiding from scripture. You must reject scripture and all of the prophets and witnesses as revealed therein, and the whole subject of the Gospel, to follow the false prophet Muhammad alone through his STAND-ALONE heavily abrogated 23 year 7th century record.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/

...... HE THAT HATH THE SON, IS NOT THE SAME SENTENCE AS JESSUS IS GOD!!!!!

Well then what about these? Let's try a quiz. Who has all power in heaven and earth?

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Who is the Alpha and Omega?

Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=570.0

Who's the Almighty Muj?

I AM JUDGING BY WHAT ALLAH HAS REVEALED .......

The deity that the Arabian pagans named, that met Muhammad in a cave by way of a demon - aka Satan.

..... AND ALL I ENCOUNTER IN MEN LIKE YOU AND THE SCRIBES< TRANSLATORS< INTERPRETERS< THE VERSION WRITERS AND THE PRIESTS OF THE CHURCH DO NOTHING BUT TWIST YOUR MIND.

Yet in the 7th century there was only one Gospel, that had been translated into every popular language, copied tens of thousands of times, and had beenread all over the known world for centuries before Muhammad. The same Gospel as the first century, and the same as today, when Muhammad quipped:

Sura 5:47 Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel.

So label your "messenger's" message foolish Muj. That's up to you.

I WAS A MSULIM LONG BEFORE DEEDAT AND ESTES WAS INTRODUCED TO ME>

MY FAITH IS NOT BASED ON NOT HAVING CAREFULLY EXAMINED ALL THE WRITINGS OF GOD FROM GREEK AND ROMAN MYTHOLOGY, SVANDINAVIAN MYTHOLOGY< THE BAGAVATH GITAS<THE VEDAS< THE OLD TESTAMENT< THE NEW TESTAMENT AND MY STUDY OF THE QURAN HAS REVEALED:

It should have revealed that the false prophet Muhammad and his antichrist anti-religion, deny the whole subject of the Gospel and deny and blaspheme the Son of God.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islam_is_antichrist.htm

1. GOD HAS SENT PROPHETS TO THE WORLD TO PROCLAIM HIS ONENESS AFTER DEVIATION HAD OCCURRED AFTER THE TIME OF ADAM>

2. GOD CONTINUED TO SEND PROPHETS TO ALL OF MANKIND TO INVITE THEM TO THE ONENESS?UNIQUENESS OF ALLAH.

3. Man deviated and deviated due top his sinful nature (hips desires/nafs) corrupting his soul

4. Scripture was lost but kept pure in the Quran.

5 The chosen race (Bani Israel (not the Jew) was chosen to lead mankind to ALLAH. They however rebelled and deviated

6. God Sent Jesus to invite them to the straight path one last time and they tried to kill him. (fortunately they did not succeed) as he has to return to kill Dajjal (antichrist)

7. Muhammad was chosen to lead mankind back to GOD as all the scripture was now opinions and versions of the original. (how many version of the BIBLE are there in English alone? How many differences between Torah and Old testament. How many arguments of interpretations of the words of the Prophets.  How many sects and divisions and churches ? How many Jewish sects? How many deviations?

Your interpretation is another deviation.

YOU PROVE THE NEED FOR ISLAM IN THE WORLD.

Sure. The world really needs more of this Muj:

CNS reports: "Sunni Muslim terrorists committed “about 70 percent” of the 12,533 terrorist murders in the world last year, according to a report by the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC)."
That's for the year 2011, and that percentage doesn't even include Shiite Muslim terrorist murders. Thus it should be obvious to all non-Muslims, that the world would be largely at peace today, if the followers of Muhammad had not been commanded to "fight and slay" non-Muslims in the "cause" of "Allah".
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jihad_islamic_terrorism.htm