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Peter

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Re: Chat with Muslim J
« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2009, 03:27:56 PM »
[[[do u have quran with u?]]]

Sure I do.
But veryone has access to 3 English translations here:

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/

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Re: Chat with Muslim J
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2009, 04:23:01 PM »
[[[u people are sick to put word in the surah of al anfal...claiming that prophet muhammad even had poets murdered in their sleep that asked him the embarrassing questions. One a woman in the middle of the night with a baby at her breast.Let alone the rape, pillage and plunder of the Islamic First Jihad near conquest of the whole known world until stopped in the Battle of Poitiers France.
Raping and sexually enslaving women as spoils of war, and stealing the property of the vanquished as they went.

which doesnt mention anything about this in the surah..where do u get this rubbish...]]]]]

From the Quran and hadith:
Regarding the murder of poets:
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=127.0

(3) March 624: Asma bint Marwan

She was a poetess who belonged to a tribe of Medinan pagans. She composed a poem blaming them for obeying a stranger (Muhammad) and for not taking the initiative to attack him by surprise. Perhaps in March 624, when the Allah—inspired Prophet heard what she had said, he asked, 'Who will rid me of Marwan's daughter?' A member of her husband's tribe volunteered and crept into her house that night. She had five children, and the youngest was sleeping at her breast. The assassin gently removed the child, drew his sword, and plunged it into her, killing her in her sleep. [5]
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Regarding rape and sexual enslavement of women as spoils of war:

(Sura 33:50-51) "O prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war..."

Or do you think a woman would willingly submit after having her husband and father killed, as in the case of the Jewess Mohammed took that eventually poisoned him?

And for his reprobate band of merry men?

"...for believers [at large]; we know what we have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hand possess; ..."

EVEN PIMPING OUT YOUR SEX SLAVES:

Sura 24:33:...But force not your maids to prostitution WHEN they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them),

But WHEN they dont want to preserve their chastity then pimp em out and make some cash!
And even if you force them into prostitution Allah will forgive anyway!
What a convenient god!
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Are you denying that there is a whole chapter in the Quran titled:

8 AL-ANFAL (SPOILS OF WAR, BOOTY)

Don't you know anything about your phony prophet and his religion?
Here are 2 good YouTube channels where you can learn a lot FROM THE HADITH AND QURAN

http://www.youtube.com/user/AhmadsQuran3

http://www.youtube.com/user/podremvc

[[[[[[bible has a lot of modification and example
and btw all above doesnt came from the word of god nor from prophet muhammad this came i think similar to ur bible
2 samuel 13:6 amnon and tamar how to rape your sister
numbers31:17,31:18,31:40
how about that?]]]]

You are going back 3500 years to the way God manifest Himself to His chosen people at the very beginnings of mankind. I recommend you ask a Jew.

But don't pretend it in any way justifies the reprobate behavior of 7th century Mohammed, 6 centuries after Gentiles were given a new covenant through Jesus Christ.

Show me what kind of behavior Jesus engaged in.

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Re: Chat with Muslim J
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2009, 04:25:55 PM »
[[dear brother,btw i really cant stand my eyes coz i am very sleepy now and thanks again for the exchange reasoning btw its our own choice and our responsibility to find the truth...i am sure u got yours i got mine...so we just respect each other alright..thanks again...it not that i want to run away its just that i am very very sleepy hehe...of course like this kind of issues will be long time to finish and you know that right ok bye]]]

It was a very nice exchange my friend. Please let me know if you have any questions. I have our conversation organized for future reference.

May God bless you and lead you to the truth of His Son our Savior Jesus Christ:

Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

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Re: Chat with Muslim J
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2009, 04:05:49 PM »
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[[[[in the quran there already stated that on the second coming jesus will come and rectify u not the muslim.......]]]

What would you expect Satan's book to say?

[[[[..... not the jews but the christians y it was because u people make him god which he is the migtiest messenger of god almighty...]]]

Here's how Jesus described Himself:

Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

[[[[....whatsoever u reasons with me it doesnt change me.....]]]

Let me recommend a book that will. If you aren't a coward with a fear of words, in the mold of your false prophet read:
"Anatomy of the Quran" by G.J.O. Moshay.

[[[[..... instead i just pray to allah so that one day u will see the point whether the holy quran or the holy bible is the word of god.....]]]]

Sure. The people that have followed God for 3500 years, through ALL of the prophets and apostles of the 1600 year record of God's revelation to mankind got it wrong.

But A SINGLE, 7th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, stepson's wife taking, sex slave capturing, slave pimping, concubine fornicating, bloody imperialistic coward and thief, that met jinn in a cave - a man, and book that are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament, got it right.

[[[[[.....by the way islam now is the biggest religion in the world.....]]]

Indeed Muslims do populate like bunnies. Even in India they even outpopulate the hindus by 50%.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

This is Satan taking over the kingdoms of the world that he has owned ever since Adam's fall (from grace that is).

Everything is going just as prophesied. Except there is a fly in the ointment that you can't see coming, without a bible. Please view the attached video to see into the future.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRowS51fETc
text version from this forum
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=331.0

[[[[.....alhamdullilah... if u say u have the quran, read and learn understand more the meaning...u need a quran to plan for a strategy how to make muslims realised but the more u read the more u will know more into islam .....]]]

The more I read the Quran, the more that it is a preposterous, jumbled up, self contradictory, hodge podge becomes apparent.

You give this advice, but did you ever read the bible?
I'm still reading the Quran.
Why don't you start reading the bible? I made it easy for you to become introduced to the Gospels at this website:
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/

[[[[..... and the more u read the more u will know why muslims love islam and choose islam has their faith and the quran is the wisdom assalamualaikum...]]]

http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=96.0