http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TDNOK047BLHTR8EL3This thread is geared toward Muslims and atheists that are combative toward Christianity. Because of their fixation on rejecting the Gospel, and aversion to the love of God as expressed therein, Muslims and atheists run and hide from the scriptures through all manner of self-deception, rather than to simply and prayerfully, read and consider them for themselves.
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/gospel_of_john.htmSadly, with precious few ever asking God for understanding:
http://www.muslimjourneytohope.com/watch.phpMat 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
Some argue against the God of the scriptures, even as they remain in self-admitted, self-imposed, abject ignorance to the Bible, its related history, confirming archaeology and the miracle of fulfilled Bible prophecy in mathematical precision.
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htmThat is, when they aren't otherwise busy seeking out only that material, that promises to reinforce their self-indoctrination into pure BLIND FAITH in DISbelief. One has to wonder how many other things they are so firmly decided about, and committed to, while insisting on self-imposed abject ignorance to the subject. Not surprisingly, Muslims and atheists deceive themselves and attempt to deceive others, by parroting lies that are so transparent that many are aware they are lies even while they are communicating them. According to the Bible, the father of lies, is Satan.
The famous Greek sophist styled Islamic entertainer, and dissimulating deceiver Ahmed Deedat, provides an excellent example. Deedat knew, like most atheists and Muslims in this forum, that Christians are called to love our neighbors as ourselves. Indeed it is one of our two greatest commandments.
Mark 12:31 And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
We are even called to love our enemies:
Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Would the world really be such a bad place, if everybody believed we are going to be held accountable by our Creator, as to how we uphold the same?
John 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
If those verses went hard on your heart, did you stop to wonder why?
Nobody is born Christian, nor does a person become a Christian because some priest sprinkled water on one's head as an infant, or by a person simply proclaiming they are Christian. In order for a person to be a Christian they must be born again and given a new heart and spirit:
John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Yet Ahmed Deedat, along with no shortage of atheists in this forum that share the same spirit that influenced him, would not hesitate to join Deedat in saying: ".....you know Hitler who was he, Christian, Mussolini who was he, Christian....."
How did they come up with that? Perhaps no method of self-deception for those filled with the spirit of the father of lies, is more common than their judging the God of the scriptures according to the behavior of men, rather than judging the behavior of men according to what God expects of mankind as revealed through the scriptures.
They judge the Gospel of Jesus Christ according to the UNChristian and even conspicuously black-hearted behavior of individuals and groups, that they vainly WISH were examples of Christian behavior, as a means of laundering their own sinfulness. This even as they themselves know, that hateful and murderous behavior of men that masqueraded as being of God - or deceived themselves into believing they were - is the opposite of that commanded through the Gospel. Thus these Muslims and atheists voluntarily render themselves as willing tools, of the enemy, of Jesus Christ.
Yet to a sane person with normal, unimpaired, cognitive function, it would otherwise be obvious that a rational approach would be to instead measure the behavior of men that proclaim themselves to be Christian, according to the Bible and the example of the behavior of Jesus Christ Himself that is to guide us. The Gospel commands Christians to love our neighbors as ourselves, while at the same time THE false prophet Muhammad's Quran for example, "binds" Muhammad's followers to "fight and slay" non-Muslims in the "cause" of "Allah".
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/the_love_of_god.htmSuch self-deceived atheists are so filled with the spirit of the father of lies, that even after pointing out quotes from Hitler himself - some of which they wouldn't hesitate to parrot themselves - they will continue to insist that Hitler was a Christian without hesitation, even though it is the atheists themselves that are on the same script! This is the result of sharing the spirit that drove Hitler.
(Dec. 13th, 1941) “Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless…â€
(Oct. 19th, 1941) “The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity.â€
(from July 11th – 12th, 1941) “The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity….[an] invention of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.â€
(Feb. 27, 1942) “…but to devote myself deliberately to errors, that is something I cannot do. I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie. Our epoch in the next 200 years will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity…my regret will have been that I couldn't behold its demise.â€
Hitler was obviously a chameleon, who presented himself as whatever he needed to be, to whoever he needed to influence, to accomplish his goal of genocide of Jews. Hitler was of the same spirit that cause THE false prophet Muhammad to also engage in genocide of Jews. (following link "Mein Kamf" from Craig Winn's Prophet of Doom)
http://web.archive.org/web/20131205161517/http://prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_16_Mein_Kampf.IslamSo if these poor deluded atheists and Muslims are so easily deceived by Satan into believing Hitler was a Christian in this day and age - even with the benefit of the history of WW2 and what we know about Hitler's behavior compared to the Gospel - do we really have to wonder as to whether they wouldn't have been first in line to follow Hitler by being duped by his lies, back at a time when doing so would have conformed them to a substantial crowd?! If atheism isn't a religion, how is it so many hold what is effectively a doctrine, to lie about Hitler being a Christian?
Indeed the atheists in this forum wish to believe themselves to be of a different spiritual condition than Hitler, even as every one that I have chatted with, has effectively said the same as this quote of Hitler repeatedly, ad nauseum:
(Dec. 13th, 1941) “Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless…â€
One has to wonder if these folks have had the capacity to be honest with themselves taken away from them, and given over at least partially, to a reprobate mind. They lie even as they have actually deceived themselves into believing, and even proclaim, how wonderful the world would be if there were more Godless people in it. This even with the history of Pol Pot, Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin, as shining examples of the real life fulfillment of their desires.
It never seems to occur to them, that even as they can be found lying in this forum just as casually as they would say "hello", their fellow Godless peers that would be their masters, would just as casually pick up swords to subjugate or slay them. This is because there is ultimately no disincentive to lie, steal or murder, when one has deceived oneself into believing that one is only accountable to oneself, for one's behavior.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rcjzesMBbw