A couple of question from a new member...

[Foundit]

Hiya

I have a few questions about this forum, if thats ok

1: forgive me if i am wrong, but from a brief perusal of these forums, i see a lot of posts,which seem to be pretty clearly intended to debate or disprove various aspect of islam.  Are there also posts which talk about the thing which christians and muslims have in common? 

2: are there many muslim members /contributors to this forum...?

3: i couldnt figure out, whether the purpose of the forum is to evangelise to muslim ppl, or to open up topics for debate, or both, and if both, which is the more important as far as forum founders are concerned...?

In case you are wondering, I am a Christian.... But at least in part, i actually owe the fact that I finally decided to accept jesus as my saviour, to something a lovely muslim lady told me....



Thanks :-)

[PeteWaldo]

Hey Foundit, and welcome to the forum! 

Hiya

I have a few questions about this forum, if thats ok

Perfectly OK.

1: forgive me if i am wrong, but from a brief perusal of these forums, i see a lot of posts,which seem to be pretty clearly intended to debate or disprove various aspect of islam.

As detailed through specifics in several websites, at the links that appear in my signature, at the bottom of my posts.

Are there also posts which talk about the thing which christians and muslims have in common?

There is a thread that regards parallels between the Roman Church and Islam:
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=512.0

But it would be difficult to find commonality between our respective books, since Muhammad's Quran is as opposite to the Gospel, as Muhammad was to Jesus Christ. An inversion - as the negative is to a photograph:
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jesus_or_muhammad.htm

There is little point in chipping away at the margins. I think you might agree that the only reasonable approach is to begin with the fundamentals, and then if conditions warrant, go ahead and bother with more detail after the fundamentals have been reconciled. Sadly and tragically, the simple fact of the matter is that Muhammad, and thus all Muslims, deny the basis of the whole subject of the Gospel:

Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/

As a Christian, how would you propose reconciling that?

How would you reconcile Muhammad's antichrist blasphemy against the Son of God?

Surah 19:88 They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" 89 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islam_is_antichrist.htm

Did you know that Muslims are taught that they commit the single most "heinous" and only unforgivable sin ("shirk") in Islam, if one were to confess that Jesus is the Son of God, or even pray in Jesus' name? As opposed to child rape or cold-blooded murder for example, which may be forgiven (and both of which, as it happens, Muhammad was guilty of committing).
http://www.petewaldo.com/unforgivable_shirk.htm

2: are there many muslim members /contributors to this forum...?

They come an go, then later on come back again, then run away again. The reason is, because unlike other forums, folks that post in here are expected to engage in an exchange. So if someone posts, they should demonstrate enough appreciation and respect for at least the time that other members invested in reply to them, to respond to the reply.

One of our occasional Muslim members posted just days ago here:
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2039.msg17756#msg17756

He left after I asked a simple question, that no other Muslim has ventured an answer to, in other forums I have participated in recently:

Tell us Muj, can you agree with we Christians in believing that those involved in imperialistic conquest and slaughter in the caliphate of The Islamic State, are evil men driven by Satan?

Simple enough question wasn't it? Why do you suppose they do not answer it?

I have yet to have a Muslim respond to my query of: "What is The Islamic State doing that Muhammad and his followers didn't do or prescribe his followers to do? From imperialistic aggression, slaughter, conquest and subjugation of YHWH's people, to female prisoner abuse, slave making and trading, beheading prisoners and even the beheading of children."
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/the_islamic_state.htm

3: i couldnt figure out, whether the purpose of the forum is to evangelise to muslim ppl, or to open up topics for debate, or both, and if both, which is the more important as far as forum founders are concerned...?

The purpose of this forum is to ferret out truth through whatever means and method we can, but as revealed through our respective books, while avoiding unsupportable idle words and wishes. Including through tracts:
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/free_tracts.htm

Our manner may be a bit direct, unvarnished and to the point, but there is no shortage of apostate self-proclaimed "Christian" religious pluralists that they can run to, if they want to be encouraged to continue to follow Satan by everybody sitting around a campfire singing kum bye yah while turning a blind eye to the truth. Like the apostates in "A Common Word Between Us and You":
http://www.petewaldo.com/religious_pluralism.htm

But then the "falling away" or apostasy in the "church" was as prophesied as was THE false prophet Muhammad and his Islamic kingdom "beast":
http://www.christianeschatology.com/falling_away_apostasy.htm

Once the truth is revealed, then it is up to the individual to decide whether they wish to follow the sinless Messiah, the Lamb of God, the Prince of Peace, or Satan through his "messenger" Muhammad.

In case you are wondering, I am a Christian.... But at least in part, i actually owe the fact that I finally decided to accept jesus as my saviour, to something a lovely muslim lady told me....

That's interesting, and I would like to know more.
So what do you suppose is that preventing her from doing the same?
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/islam_is_antichrist.htm
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/death_penalty_apostasy.htm

Thanks :-)

And thank you for coming and joining in. It would probably be easiest if you break the posts down into pieces, by partially quoting them, and respond to the points in several posts.
If you are unfamiliar with the software, a brief rundown as to physically how to post, are included in the welcome section.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=39.0

[PeteWaldo]

Hiya

I have a few questions about this forum, if thats ok

1: forgive me if i am wrong, but from a brief perusal of these forums, i see a lot of posts,which seem to be pretty clearly intended to debate or disprove various aspect of islam.  Are there also posts which talk about the thing which christians and muslims have in common?

I hope my lengthy post didn't discourage you from replying, but of what importance would discussing any things that some Muslims and some Christians may have in common be, when the counter-Gospel, antichrist, anti-religion of Muhammadan Islam denies the whole subject of the Gospel of Jesus Christ?
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/

Other than to point out such commonality as the "trinity", while they hypocritically rail against it with claims that it constitutes the single most egregious and only unforgivable sin in Islam, they actually have a trinity of their own. Ironically, the trinity that they believe in with "Allah" his spirit and Muhammad as intercessor - as helper to "Allah" - is actually polytheistic, while the trinity in Christianity is not since YHWH, His Spirit and Jesus Christ are all one.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/the_trinity.htm

What are those of The Islamic State doing today, that Muhammad and his followers didn't do, or prescribe for his followers to do?
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/jesus_or_muhammad.htm
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/the_islamic_state.htm

As Christians aren't we called to love THE false prophet Muhammad's followers at least enough, to desire to help them overcome Muhammad's counter-Gospel, anti-religion, rather than search in vain effort for commonality, to excuse Islam and its evil violence away, thereby encouraging them to stay on the antichrist path they are on?