The terrorism of Muhammad and Islam as explained by a follower

[PeteWaldo]

You are done obfuscating. Is fighting and slaying "a promise binding" on Muhammad's followers "in the Quran", or is this surah a lie?

Surah 9.111 Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah. then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.
 
Of course that verse tells a filthy lie regarding the Gospel binding Christians to fight and slay, or the law binding Jews to fight and slay, but a literate person can see that according to the Quran it is a promise binding on Muhammad's true, fundamental, non-hypocrite, orthodox followers.

That I believe the quran is a pile of rubbish is completely irrelevant to this subject.
What hundreds of millions of Muslims believe about that verse, is what has robbed them of their humanity. That number would include you, unless of course you are willing to proclaim the verse lies about binding you to fight in his cause and slay. Certainly Islamic scholars like Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi don't have any trouble understanding that verse.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/the_islamic_state.htm

Let me embellish with a Hadith footnote:
http://falseprophetmuhammad.com/jihad_islamic_terrorism.htm#muslim_hypocrites

"Summarized Sahih Al-Bukhari" - Maktba Dar-us-Salam's page 580
Chapter 2. The best among the people is that believer who strives his utmost in Allah's Cause with both his life and property.
footnotes:
[1] "Al-Jihad (the holy fighting) in Allah's Cause (with full force of number and weaponry) is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars (on which it stands). By Jihad Islam is established, Allah's Word is made superior, [His Word being La ilaha ill-Allah (which means: none has the right to be worshipped but Allah)] and His Religion (Islam) is propagated. By abandoning Jihad (may Allah protect us from that) Islam is destroyed and the Muslims fall into an inferior position; there honour is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim, and he who tries to escape from this duty, or does not in his innermost heart wish to fulfill this duty, dies with one of the qualities of a hypocrite.
[2] Of course, nobody can offer Salat (prayer) and observe Saum (fast) incessantly, and since the Muslim fighter is rewarded as if he was doing such good impossible deeds, no possible deed equals Jihad in reward.

Satan through his messenger even commands his followers to fight and subjugate specifically Yahweh's "people of the book", that is, Jews and Christians:

Surah 9.29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

Please reply without obfuscation. If you bring up another subject it will be split off and locked. No more wasting our mutual time. I will even suggest an additional threat of simply throwing a non-responsive or unrelated post out, to help you keep from wasting your time like that.

Is the verse quoted from the Quran a lie or is fighting and slaying a promise binding on you in the Quran?

[Al-Fatihah]

You are done obfuscating. Is fighting and slaying "a promise binding" on Muhammad's followers "in the Quran", or is this surah a lie?

Surah 9.111 Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah. then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.
 
Of course that verse tells a filthy lie regarding the Gospel binding Christians to fight and slay, or the law binding Jews to fight and slay, but a literate person can see that according to the Quran it is a promise binding on Muhammad's true, fundamental, non-hypocrite, orthodox followers.

That I believe the quran is a pile of rubbish is completely irrelevant to this subject.
What hundreds of millions of Muslims believe about that verse, is what has robbed them of their humanity. That number would include you, unless of course you are willing to proclaim the verse lies about binding you to fight in his cause and slay. Certainly Islamic scholars like Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi don't have any trouble understanding that verse.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/the_islamic_state.htm

Let me embellish with a Hadith footnote:
http://falseprophetmuhammad.com/jihad_islamic_terrorism.htm#muslim_hypocrites

"Summarized Sahih Al-Bukhari" - Maktba Dar-us-Salam's page 580
Chapter 2. The best among the people is that believer who strives his utmost in Allah's Cause with both his life and property.
footnotes:
[1] "Al-Jihad (the holy fighting) in Allah's Cause (with full force of number and weaponry) is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars (on which it stands). By Jihad Islam is established, Allah's Word is made superior, [His Word being La ilaha ill-Allah (which means: none has the right to be worshipped but Allah)] and His Religion (Islam) is propagated. By abandoning Jihad (may Allah protect us from that) Islam is destroyed and the Muslims fall into an inferior position; there honour is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim, and he who tries to escape from this duty, or does not in his innermost heart wish to fulfill this duty, dies with one of the qualities of a hypocrite.
[2] Of course, nobody can offer Salat (prayer) and observe Saum (fast) incessantly, and since the Muslim fighter is rewarded as if he was doing such good impossible deeds, no possible deed equals Jihad in reward.

Satan through his messenger even commands his followers to fight and subjugate specifically Yahweh's "people of the book", that is, Jews and Christians:

Surah 9.29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

Please reply without obfuscation. If you bring up another subject it will be split off and locked. No more wasting our mutual time. I will even suggest an additional threat of simply throwing a non-responsive or unrelated post out, to help you keep from wasting your time like that.

Is the verse quoted from the Quran a lie or is fighting and slaying a promise binding on you in the Quran?

Response: The verse, like all verses of fighting, refer to self-defense, as the Qur'an clearly states not to fight those who are peaceful (8:61).

[PeteWaldo]

You are done obfuscating. Is fighting and slaying "a promise binding" on Muhammad's followers "in the Quran", or is this surah a lie?

Surah 9.111 Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah. then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.
 
Of course that verse tells a filthy lie regarding the Gospel binding Christians to fight and slay, or the law binding Jews to fight and slay, but a literate person can see that according to the Quran it is a promise binding on Muhammad's true, fundamental, non-hypocrite, orthodox followers.

That I believe the quran is a pile of rubbish is completely irrelevant to this subject.
What hundreds of millions of Muslims believe about that verse, is what has robbed them of their humanity. That number would include you, unless of course you are willing to proclaim the verse lies about binding you to fight in his cause and slay. Certainly Islamic scholars like Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi don't have any trouble understanding that verse.
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/the_islamic_state.htm

Let me embellish with a Hadith footnote:
http://falseprophetmuhammad.com/jihad_islamic_terrorism.htm#muslim_hypocrites

"Summarized Sahih Al-Bukhari" - Maktba Dar-us-Salam's page 580
Chapter 2. The best among the people is that believer who strives his utmost in Allah's Cause with both his life and property.
footnotes:
[1] "Al-Jihad (the holy fighting) in Allah's Cause (with full force of number and weaponry) is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars (on which it stands). By Jihad Islam is established, Allah's Word is made superior, [His Word being La ilaha ill-Allah (which means: none has the right to be worshipped but Allah)] and His Religion (Islam) is propagated. By abandoning Jihad (may Allah protect us from that) Islam is destroyed and the Muslims fall into an inferior position; there honour is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim, and he who tries to escape from this duty, or does not in his innermost heart wish to fulfill this duty, dies with one of the qualities of a hypocrite.
[2] Of course, nobody can offer Salat (prayer) and observe Saum (fast) incessantly, and since the Muslim fighter is rewarded as if he was doing such good impossible deeds, no possible deed equals Jihad in reward.

Satan through his messenger even commands his followers to fight and subjugate specifically Yahweh's "people of the book", that is, Jews and Christians:

Surah 9.29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 30 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

Please reply without obfuscation. If you bring up another subject it will be split off and locked. No more wasting our mutual time. I will even suggest an additional threat of simply throwing a non-responsive or unrelated post out, to help you keep from wasting your time like that.

Is the verse quoted from the Quran a lie or is fighting and slaying a promise binding on you in the Quran?

Response: The verse, like all verses of fighting, refer to self-defense, as the Qur'an clearly states not to fight those who are peaceful (8:61).

The verses you quoted while claiming the exact of what they indicate, as well as the 1400 year history of Islamic imperialistic conquest against non-Muslims at every opportunity that presented itself, clearly demonstrate what a conspicuously transparent lie you told. Defended themselves all the way up into Europe eigh? Defended themselves through 800 years of Hindu genocide in their imperialistic conquest of India eigh? The imperialistic conquest of Muhammad and then his followers in his wake, conquered nearly the whole "known world" during the Islamic first jihad, all the way up into France and Austria and down into Africa. Let alone that your own books make you a liar, and true non-hypocrite orthodox Muslims like Al-Bagdati would quickly point you - with the point of a sword to what they would identify as the lying throat of an Islamic hypocrite. It really is stunning how you can't see that your antichrist evil murderous cult comes straight out of the pit of hell.

Bukhari, V1 B2 #24 Narrated Ibn 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform a that, then they save their lives an property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah."

So do you believe that Hadith lied about Muhammad proclaiming he was ordered to fight against the people until they testify to that filthy blasphemy? Or do you belive it was Muhammad lying about being ordered to do that?

[Al-Fatihah]

The verses you quoted while claiming the exact of what they indicate, as well as the 1400 year history of Islamic imperialistic conquest against non-Muslims at every opportunity that presented itself, clearly demonstrate what a conspicuously transparent lie you told. Defended themselves all the way up into Europe eigh? Defended themselves through 800 years of Hindu genocide in their imperialistic conquest of India eigh? The imperialistic conquest of Muhammad and then his followers in his wake, conquered nearly the whole "known world" during the Islamic first jihad, all the way up into France and Austria and down into Africa. Let alone that your own books make you a liar, and true non-hypocrite orthodox Muslims like Al-Bagdati would quickly point you - with the point of a sword to what they would identify as the lying throat of an Islamic hypocrite. It really is stunning how you can't see that your antichrist evil murderous cult comes straight out of the pit of hell.

Bukhari, V1 B2 #24 Narrated Ibn 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform a that, then they save their lives an property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah."

So do you believe that Hadith lied about Muhammad proclaiming he was ordered to fight against the people until they testify to that filthy blasphemy? Or do you belive it was Muhammad lying about being ordered to do that?

Response: Islam is based on the Qur'an and Sunnah, and the Qur'an clearly states not to fight those who are peaceful (8:61). So your impotent argument is refuted as usual.

Unlike your Jesus of the Bible, in which Jesus says he is against peace and brings a sword (Matthew 10:34). So you just exposed your trifling, disgraceful, warlord, violent Christian religion.

Try again.

[PeteWaldo]

In the wake of the recent crescendo that culminated in the rapid blizzard of repetitive posts on several threads, contrary to the rules you agreed to when you joined, we will offer you a 3 day vacation, during which time we hope you can collect and compose yourself. You can still log in and use some forum functions.

When you return from your brief vacation.....
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=4733.msg18251#msg18251

.....we will begin by reviewing your repeated filthy antichrist lie against the Gospel and Jesus Christ,  that flows from your mouth as easily and comfortably as saying "hello".
Repeating it even after I already showed you through the scriptures exactly what the sword is that Jesus brought.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=4714.msg18109#msg18109

Ephesians 6:12 .... the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

Rev 2:16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

Hbr 4:12 For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=225.0

We will see what kind of forum citizenship you can exhibit in that exchange. You will be asked to quote and review the verses I presented in that post, that explained it before you repeated your lie. You can prepare yourself as you wait to return.

Then we will review and address posts you ignored. Like how Abraham, Hagar and Ishmael are supposed to have wandered 1200 kilometers across harsh barren desert from Hebron to Mecca, over a thousand years before the historical record tells us there was a caravan route along the Red Sea, and over 2,000 years before Mecca was initially settled in the 4th century AD.
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=4724.msg18233#msg18233

And if I did not provide a substantive answer to each and every one of your posts to me, I will be happy to review and do that as well. 
No new material will be accepted until the posts that you ignored are addressed.

Because of your abusive repetitive spam blizzard, we will focus on one point in one thread at a time.

[PeteWaldo]

Response: Islam is based on the Qur'an and Sunnah, and the Qur'an clearly states not to fight those who are peaceful (8:61). So your impotent argument is refuted as usual.

But that verse was revealed before Muhammad's mass murder of the innocent, literate, peaceful, faithful, Jewish farm boys of the Banu Qurayza and their dads and grandpas, and rape and sexual enslavement of their little sisters and mothers and theft of their property. So the verse you cited in your feeble and easily exposed attempt at taqiyyah, is obviously nullified and "consigned to oblivion".....

2:106 (Asad) Any message which, We annul or consign to oblivion We replace with a better or a similar one. Dost thou not know that God has the power to will anything?
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=116.0

.....while being replaced by the operative verses I quoted, that came later in order of "revelation".
http://www.islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=609.0

Indeed chapter 9 that I quoted in which Muhammad orders his followers to fight and slay non-Muslims, as binding in them in the Quran, is second to last in order of so-called "revelation" (number 113). So it trumps all of the earlier drivel that contradicts it, that Muhammad later obviously regretted dithering on with, since he had to consign his earlier stuff to oblivion. Here's a Medina Surah and command from the terrorist you follow, from chapter 8, that ranks 88th in order of "revelation":

Surah 8:12 I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them

You can confirm that I am correct in this, with the Islamic scholar Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi (as well as most any other Imam or Mufti that can be candid about what the Quran binds on Muhammad's followers).

So the only question left for you to seriously ask yourself, is whether you believe that men who engage in reprobate behavior like that of Baghdadi and Muhammad, are driven by God or by Satan? Would you follow Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi?
What has Baghdadi done that Muhammad and his gang of thugs didn't do?
http://www.falseprophetmuhammad.com/the_islamic_state.htm