The Islamic Kingdom "Beast" (split off Love your Neighbor - retitled by Peter)

[Mujaheed]

...I AM PRAYING THAT SOMEONE MOVE IN NEXT DOOR TO YOU LIKE ME, INFORMED,...

So why do you suppose it is that you haven't yet brought a single shred of evidence, that suggests that Mecca ever existed before pagan immigrants from Yemen settled it in around the 4th century AD, and built their Kaaba in the early 5th century AD, for moon, sun, star, and jinn demon worship? Even you can't deny the 360 idols that adorned their Kaaba, one of which Muslims still bow toward to this day, and travel to and circumambulate just as the pagan Arabians did.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1906.msg8066#msg8066
http://www.historyofmecca.com/

YOU  HAVE NOT BROUGHT ANY EVIDENCE FROM MAKKAH THAT IT DID NOT, MERE SPECULATION IS NOT TRUTH, YOU ASSUME FROM THE AVAILABLE RESOURCES THAT MAKKAH POSSIBLY DID NOT EXISTS DONT YOU. THERE IS NO CERTAINTY ON YOUR PART IS THERE? HOW DO YOU PROVE A PLACE DID NOT EXIST WITHOUT EXAMINING THE PLACE ITSELF? ARTIFACTS OF MAKKAH, WHERE ARE THEY?
DO MUSLIMS BOW DOWN TO AN IDOL? THE IGNORANCE OF PETER, WHAT DOES LAA MEAN? NOTHING
WHAT DOES IELAA MEAN? GOD? DOES AL-MEAN THE THE DECLARATION THAT WE BELIEVE IN THE GOD AND THAT NONE IS WORTHY OF WORSHIP BUT ALLAH (AL-THE IELAAH -GOD) DOES NOT ENTER YOUR DISCUSSIONS ANYWHERE, JUST A FALSE MISLEADING ACCUSATION THAT MUHAMMAD CONTINUED AFTER REVELATION, AFTER TALKING ABOUT THE PROPHETS OF GOD CONTINUED WITH IGNORANCE, YOU MAKE ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE WHATSOEVER!!!!!
TELL THE read-only participantS (THATS WHAT PETER CALLS VIEWERS OF THESE PAGES) ABOUT ISLAM
HOW THE IDOLS WERE DESTROYED, IDOLWORSHIPPING WAS DESTROYED, AND THE WORSHIP OF THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, MOSES, DAVID AND JESUS WAS INTRODUCED, NO DIFFRENT FROM THE GOD OF THE JEWS AS DESCRIBED IN THE BIBLE.


Since the moon god was considered to be the most powerful deity in Arabian Star Family worship it would seem no coincidence that the Islamic calendar is a lunar calendar. Muslims all over the world bow toward the black stone, that pagans venerated as the moon god idol, five times a day. Crescent moons adorn the tops of mosques and decorate national flags. "Fasting" is done during the month which begins and ends with the appearance of the crescent moon in the sky. Even the favorite shout of Mohammedan suicide murderers - ALLAHU AKBAR - means "Allah is the greatER", which for Arabian moon god worshipers meant that the moon god was the most powerful of all of the Arabian Star Family deities.
http://www.petewaldo.com/hajj___umrah.htm#moon_god
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=56.0


THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE MOON?
In an apparent endorsement of astrology, God places the sun, moon, and stars in the firmament so that they can be used "for signs". This, of course, is exactly what astrologers do: read "the signs" in the Zodiac in an effort to predict what will happen on Earth. 1:14
1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

"We know that the term "Allah," as the god of the moon, was derived from the Thamud god of the moon. His name was Hilal, or Hlal, which means "crescent." Later, the name "Hilal" became Hilah, as we see in many inscriptions which were found in Arabia. In the Thamud inscriptions he is found as H-ilah, Ha-ilah and H-alah. We see the same development for "Hilah," the moon deity in Yemen, where Almaqah is called "Halal,' or "Hilal, the Crescent." 15"
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1240.0

AL-THE IELAAH MEANS GOD (ALLAH) HOW YOU GET HILAL FROM ALLAH IS AGAIN THE ILLOGICAL REASONING THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD CAME TO WARN US AGAINST, IGNORANT FOOLS THAT THINK THEY KNOW BUT HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE.

....AND HAVE ALL THE SIDES OF THE BIBLICAL STORIES.....

Spectators of this forum have already seen your fake bible verse creating - in the same mold of Ahmed Deedat's buffoonery.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1905.msg8063#msg8063

Whoever wants to be a Christian should tear the eyes out of his Reason. -- Martin Luther
Reason is the Devil's greatest whore; by nature and manner of being she is a noxious whore; she is a prostitute, the Devil's appointed whore; whore eaten by scab and leprosy who ought to be trodden under foot and destroyed, she and her wisdom ... Throw dung in her face to make her ugly. She is and she ought to be drowned in baptism... She would deserve, the wretch, to be banished to the filthiest place in the house, to the closets.
Martin Luther, Erlangen Edition v. 16, pp. 142-148

Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but -- more frequently than not -- struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God.

Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed. Faith must trample underfoot all reason, sense, and understanding, and whatever it sees must be put out of sight and ... know nothing but the word of God.

There is on earth among all dangers no more dangerous thing than a richly endowed and adroit reason... Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed.
Martin Luther, quoted by Walter Kaufmann, The Faith of a Heretic, (Garden City, NY, Doubleday, 1963), p. 75

Reason should be destroyed in all Christians.

Whoever wants to be a Christian should tear the eyes out of his Reason.

To be a Christian, you must "pluck out the eye of reason."

[Peter]

Whoever wants to be a Christian should tear the eyes out of his Reason. -- Martin Luther
Reason is the Devil's greatest whore; by nature and manner of being she is a noxious whore; she is a prostitute, the Devil's appointed whore; whore eaten by scab and leprosy who ought to be trodden under foot and destroyed, she and her wisdom ... Throw dung in her face to make her ugly. She is and she ought to be drowned in baptism... She would deserve, the wretch, to be banished to the filthiest place in the house, to the closets.
Martin Luther, Erlangen Edition v. 16, pp. 142-148

Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but -- more frequently than not -- struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God.

Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed. Faith must trample underfoot all reason, sense, and understanding, and whatever it sees must be put out of sight and ... know nothing but the word of God.

There is on earth among all dangers no more dangerous thing than a richly endowed and adroit reason... Reason must be deluded, blinded, and destroyed.
Martin Luther, quoted by Walter Kaufmann, The Faith of a Heretic, (Garden City, NY, Doubleday, 1963), p. 75

Reason should be destroyed in all Christians.

Whoever wants to be a Christian should tear the eyes out of his Reason.

To be a Christian, you must "pluck out the eye of reason."

So then we can conclude that you believe that Mohammed's account of his unwitnessed "night journey" from Mecca, to pray inside a non-existent mosque in Jerusalem, then his flight up to heaven, and then back to Mecca by morning - on his fanciful flying donkey-mule - is perfectly within reason.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1253.0
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1713.0

[Mujaheed]

So then we can conclude that you believe that Mohammed's account of his unwitnessed "night journey" from Mecca, to pray inside a non-existent mosque in Jerusalem, then his flight up to heaven, and then back to Mecca by morning - on his fanciful flying donkey-mule - is perfectly within reason.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1253.0
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1713.0
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IS JERUSALEM HOLY? DID GOD CREATE ADAM? PART THE SEAS FOR MOSES? DID GOD GIVE JESUS THE ABILITY TO WALK ON WATER? DID SAMSON GET INCREDIBLE STRENGTH FROM GOD?

IS 1.8 billion people following the Religion of an Illiterate pagan Arab from a desert that is set in one of the harshest, remotest climates in the world, in less tahn half the time than a 3500 year old religion? Miracle? or Unbelievable (DISBELIEVER)

THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A BELIEVER AND A MUSHRIHK SOMEONE THAT ASCRIBES PARTNERS TO ALLAH, THE DIFFERENCE IS THE MUSLIM ACCEPTS THIS AS THE WILL<OF THE GOD, THE MUSHRIHK CALLS IT A MIRACLE, SOMETHING IMPOSSIBLE THAT CAME TRUE, SO IT IS LITTLE WONDER THAT SOME OF THINGS ARE ACCEPTED AND OTHERS REJECTED BY THE MUSHRIHK.

[Peter]

IS 1.8 billion people following the Religion of an Illiterate pagan Arab from a desert that is set in one of the harshest, remotest climates in the world, in less tahn half the time than a 3500 year old religion? Miracle? or Unbelievable (DISBELIEVER)

Not at all unbelievable thanks to slavery and the sword. Over 2 million killed by Mohammed's followers - in the Sudan alone - even today. And the numbers of Mohammed's followers are just as we should expect.

Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for WIDE [IS] THE GATE, AND BROAD [IS THE WAY, THAT LEADETH TO DESTRUCTION, and many there be which go in thereat:

[Peter]

IS 1.8 billion people following the Religion of an Illiterate pagan Arab from a desert that is set in one of the harshest, remotest climates in the world, in less tahn half the time than a 3500 year old religion? Miracle? or Unbelievable (DISBELIEVER)

Not at all unbelievable thanks to slavery and the sword. Over 2 million killed by Mohammed's followers - in the Sudan alone - even today. And the numbers of Mohammed's followers are just as we should expect.

Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for WIDE [IS] THE GATE, AND BROAD [IS THE WAY, THAT LEADETH TO DESTRUCTION, and many there be which go in thereat:

DO YOU NOT THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE MUSLIM TODAY OUT OF FREEWILL?

Even though Muslims believe in predestination rather than free will, I do believe that people become Muslims out of their own free will. As I have pointed out it is why Mohammedanism thrives among illiterates in 3rd world countries and prisons.

I believe that God gave us all free will to become Hindus, Buddhists, Mohammedans, Satanists, or to follow the one true God of the Jews and Christians through the record that He gave us.

No need to squander a lot of forum space with the 7th and 8th century created fiction and rantings of a bunch of ignorant 7th century southwest Arabian desert dwellers.

[Mujaheed]

IS 1.8 billion people following the Religion of an Illiterate pagan Arab from a desert that is set in one of the harshest, remotest climates in the world, in less tahn half the time than a 3500 year old religion? Miracle? or Unbelievable (DISBELIEVER)

Not at all unbelievable thanks to slavery and the sword. Over 2 million killed by Mohammed's followers - in the Sudan alone - even today. And the numbers of Mohammed's followers are just as we should expect.

Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for WIDE [IS] THE GATE, AND BROAD [IS THE WAY, THAT LEADETH TO DESTRUCTION, and many there be which go in thereat:

DO YOU NOT THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE MUSLIM TODAY OUT OF FREEWILL?

Even though Muslims believe in predestination rather than free will, I do believe that people become Muslims out of their own free will. As I pointed out it is also why Mohammedanism thrives among illiterates in 3rd world countries and prisons.

I believe that God gave us all free will to become Hindus, Buddhists, Mohammedans, Satanists, or to follow the one true God of the Jews and Christians through the record that He gave us.

WHAT ARE THE STATS ON MUSLIM CONVERSIONS OUTSIDE OF ISLAMIC MAJORITY COUNTRIES?
DO YOPU NOT THINK THE PERCENTAGES ARE MUCH HIGHER IN NON MUSLIM MAJORITY COUNTRIES, LIKE USA AND GERMANY AND NETHERLANDS< WHERE IT HAS MOR THAN QUADRUPELLED MOSTLY AT UNIVERSITY AND AMONGST EDUCATED SCHOLARS< ATHEISTS< JEWS AND CHRISTIANS?

HOW DO YOU ACCOUNT FOR THAT WHEN THEY ARE SURROUNDED BY NEGATIVE PROPAGANDA REGARDING ISLAM. THE MOST CONVERTS SEEM TO BE AFTER AN ATROCITY like 911 and Invasions going all the way back to the 70's

In 1970's most people in west were completely unaware of Islam, the moment the negative propaganda started more westerners started to embrace Islam, did this happen before in the Bible when a small amount of people following a man who said ehe is the Messiah was ridiculed and persecuted? and the more they were persecited the more the help of God descended on them? till they deviated then that stopped and another Prophet was chosen to correct the deviation and bring mercy (comfort) to the entire globe?

[Peter]

IS 1.8 billion people following the Religion of an Illiterate pagan Arab from a desert that is set in one of the harshest, remotest climates in the world, in less tahn half the time than a 3500 year old religion? Miracle? or Unbelievable (DISBELIEVER)

Not at all unbelievable thanks to slavery and the sword. Over 2 million killed by Mohammed's followers - in the Sudan alone - even today. And the numbers of Mohammed's followers are just as we should expect.

Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for WIDE [IS] THE GATE, AND BROAD [IS THE WAY, THAT LEADETH TO DESTRUCTION, and many there be which go in thereat:

DO YOU NOT THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE MUSLIM TODAY OUT OF FREEWILL?

Even though Muslims believe in predestination rather than free will, I do believe that people become Muslims out of their own free will. As I pointed out it is also why Mohammedanism thrives among illiterates in 3rd world countries and prisons.

I believe that God gave us all free will to become Hindus, Buddhists, Mohammedans, Satanists, or to follow the one true God of the Jews and Christians through the record that He gave us.

WHAT ARE THE STATS ON MUSLIM CONVERSIONS OUTSIDE OF ISLAMIC MAJORITY COUNTRIES?
DO YOPU NOT THINK THE PERCENTAGES ARE MUCH HIGHER IN NON MUSLIM MAJORITY COUNTRIES, LIKE USA AND GERMANY AND NETHERLANDS< WHERE IT HAS MOR THAN QUADRUPELLED MOSTLY AT UNIVERSITY AND AMONGST EDUCATED SCHOLARS< ATHEISTS< JEWS AND CHRISTIANS?

HOW DO YOU ACCOUNT FOR THAT WHEN THEY ARE SURROUNDED BY NEGATIVE PROPAGANDA REGARDING ISLAM. THE MOST CONVERTS SEEM TO BE AFTER AN ATROCITY like 911 and Invasions going all the way back to the 70's

You answered your own question. Their "conversion" began by their being emotionally disturbed.
However 3/4 of so-called "converts" in the U.S. are intelligent enough to leave Mohammedanism within a few years. Likely the remaining 1/4 are women who made the mistake of marrying a Muslim and don't want their children kidnapped and taken to the belly of the beast (middle east).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWekSVdTgUI

In 1970's most people in west were completely unaware of Islam, the moment the negative propaganda started more westerners started to embrace Islam, .........

No my friend, the 1970s are when the mortal wound of the Islamic beast was healed, through OPEC and subsequent western wealth transfer through oil purchase. Oil from the worldly kingdom seat, and power, that Satan gave to his Islamic beast.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1906.msg7941#msg7941
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=12.0

That unearned wealth also gave Mohammed's followers the mobility to migrate to western welfare states where so many live on the dole, and on a comparative basis make babies like bunnies, which juices their numbers.
This video summarizes it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6X7P19MfZE

......... did this happen before in the Bible when a small amount of people following a man who said ehe is the Messiah was ridiculed and persecuted? and the more they were persecited the more the help of God descended on them? till they deviated then that stopped and another Prophet was chosen to correct the deviation and bring mercy (comfort) to the entire globe?

The nature and growth of the beast was prophesied. The end of the beast and the false prophet are too.

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where THE BEAST and THE FALSE PROPHET [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

[Mujaheed]

IS 1.8 billion people following the Religion of an Illiterate pagan Arab from a desert that is set in one of the harshest, remotest climates in the world, in less tahn half the time than a 3500 year old religion? Miracle? or Unbelievable (DISBELIEVER)

Not at all unbelievable thanks to slavery and the sword. Over 2 million killed by Mohammed's followers - in the Sudan alone - even today. And the numbers of Mohammed's followers are just as we should expect.

Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for WIDE [IS] THE GATE, AND BROAD [IS THE WAY, THAT LEADETH TO DESTRUCTION, and many there be which go in thereat:

DO YOU NOT THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE MUSLIM TODAY OUT OF FREEWILL?

Even though Muslims believe in predestination rather than free will, I do believe that people become Muslims out of their own free will. As I pointed out it is also why Mohammedanism thrives among illiterates in 3rd world countries and prisons.

I believe that God gave us all free will to become Hindus, Buddhists, Mohammedans, Satanists, or to follow the one true God of the Jews and Christians through the record that He gave us.

WHAT ARE THE STATS ON MUSLIM CONVERSIONS OUTSIDE OF ISLAMIC MAJORITY COUNTRIES?
DO YOPU NOT THINK THE PERCENTAGES ARE MUCH HIGHER IN NON MUSLIM MAJORITY COUNTRIES, LIKE USA AND GERMANY AND NETHERLANDS< WHERE IT HAS MOR THAN QUADRUPELLED MOSTLY AT UNIVERSITY AND AMONGST EDUCATED SCHOLARS< ATHEISTS< JEWS AND CHRISTIANS?

HOW DO YOU ACCOUNT FOR THAT WHEN THEY ARE SURROUNDED BY NEGATIVE PROPAGANDA REGARDING ISLAM. THE MOST CONVERTS SEEM TO BE AFTER AN ATROCITY like 911 and Invasions going all the way back to the 70's

You answered your own question. Their "conversion" began by their being emotionally disturbed.
However 3/4 of so-called "converts" in the U.S. are intelligent enough to leave Mohammedanism within a few years. Likely the remaining 1/4 are women who made the mistake of marrying a Muslim and don't want their children kidnapped and taken to the belly of the beast (middle east).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWekSVdTgUI

In 1970's most people in west were completely unaware of Islam, the moment the negative propaganda started more westerners started to embrace Islam, .........

No my friend, the 1970s are when the mortal wound of the Islamic beast was healed, through OPEC and subsequent western wealth transfer through oil purchase. Oil from the worldly kingdom seat, and power, that Satan gave to his Islamic beast.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1906.msg7941#msg7941
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=12.0

That unearned wealth also gave Mohammed's followers the mobility to migrate to western welfare states where so many live on the dole, and on a comparative basis make babies like bunnies, which juices their numbers.
This video summarizes it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6X7P19MfZE

......... did this happen before in the Bible when a small amount of people following a man who said ehe is the Messiah was ridiculed and persecuted? and the more they were persecited the more the help of God descended on them? till they deviated then that stopped and another Prophet was chosen to correct the deviation and bring mercy (comfort) to the entire globe?

The nature and growth of the beast was prophesied. The end of the beast and the false prophet are too.

Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where THE BEAST and THE FALSE PROPHET [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Firstly you the only one emotionally disturbed by the fact that you have nothing but lies, where is your proof that they leave Islam? so instead of More mosques going up who fills them on a friday in Europe?

So according to you GOD MAKES HUMANS IN HIS OWN IMAGE TO BECOME BEASTS? WHAT a waste of creation, If the prophecy means people that are beasts it would say humans are the beast (BEAST OR BEASTS) singular would definitely indicate one animal and not nations, WHAT POLITICAL DRIVEL ARE YOU SPEWING, MORTAL WOUND... How do you come up with such complete rubbish?

So the devil and the beast was dealt with past tense? and the false prophet when was that written and are you sure it was written for someone to read some time way into the future or did it happen when the false prophet died, IT DOES NOT FIT IN WITH HISTORICAL EVENTS NOR CAN IT BE A REFERENCE TO THE FUTURE WHEN IT IS CLEARLY WRITTEN IN THE PAST TENSE?

The devil WAS??? WHERE THE BEAST AND FALSE PRPHET ARE?? WHEN WAS WRITTEN BEFORE OR AFTER MUMAMMAD???

THE LIES AND DECEPTION ATTEMPTS ARE GROWING THINNER AND THINNER.

[Peter]

So according to you GOD MAKES HUMANS IN HIS OWN IMAGE TO BECOME BEASTS? WHAT a waste of creation, If the prophecy means people that are beasts it would say humans are the beast (BEAST OR BEASTS) singular would definitely indicate one animal and not nations, WHAT POLITICAL DRIVEL ARE YOU SPEWING, MORTAL WOUND... How do you come up with such complete rubbish?

You complain about my repeating things, even as you continue to exhibit why you fail to understand.

1Cr 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

Blessedly we don't need to depend on a Mohammedan's guesswork to understand how the term "beast" is defined when used in the figurative language of a dream or vision in prophecy.
So purely for the benefit of forum read-only participants...

Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth...  
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/the_beast.htm
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/johns_eight_beasts.htm
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm

[Mujaheed]

So according to you GOD MAKES HUMANS IN HIS OWN IMAGE TO BECOME BEASTS? WHAT a waste of creation, If the prophecy means people that are beasts it would say humans are the beast (BEAST OR BEASTS) singular would definitely indicate one animal and not nations, WHAT POLITICAL DRIVEL ARE YOU SPEWING, MORTAL WOUND... How do you come up with such complete rubbish?

You complain about my repeating things, even as you continue to exhibit why you fail to understand.

1Cr 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

Blessedly we don't need to depend on a Mohammedan's guesswork to understand how the term "beast" is defined when used in the figurative language of a dream or vision in prophecy.
So purely for the benefit of forum read-only participants...

Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth...  
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/the_beast.htm
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/johns_eight_beasts.htm
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm

I fail to understand how you can go so far astray, pretending to know something like Ellis Skollfield does for thirty years, that is a terrible waste of his life.

I feel so sorry for the man after reading his opinions, all politically based none spiritually, based on history of empires, mathematical calculations to the year and degree and within a meter of the real dome of the Rock, based on political events effecting such a negligible amount of people its almost laughable that he focusses on cursed nation scattered like pearls from China to the Americas, The jews are powerless that is why they need all that weapons and the help of Zionists!!

Wonderful bit of fiction, well researched facts, but better stated as fiction, I like it actually pity it has nothing to do with scripture, or anyones understanding of Dajjal and the second coming of NABI EESA born of MARY.

HERE ARE THE BIBLE VERSES: (NO FICTION)

An angel locks up Satan for 1000 years. 20:1-3
"The first resurrection" Those who don't worship the beast will become priests and reign with Christ for 1000 years. The rest of the dead will remain dead until the 1000 years is over. 20:4-6
In heaven there will be a tree that has 12 kinds of fruit with leaves that will heal nations. And there will be horses of different colors, singing munchkins, and a great and powerful wizard. 22:2
"His name shall be in their foreheads." DAJJAL WILL MARK HIS FOLLOWERS?

His name will be in their foreheads? Which of Jesus's many secret names with that be? Will beleivers have "King of Kings and Lord of Lords" branded on their foreheads like Jesus has tattooed to his thigh? Or "The Word of God" or "Jealous"? And why does God have to mark is followers on their foreheads?

"The time is at hand." 22:10
This verse refers to Jesus as the "bright and morning star", as is Lucifer in Isaiah 14:12. So is Jesus Lucifer? 22:16

PLEASE WARN ELLIS SKOLLFIELD OF THE FOLLOWING:
Anyone who adds to the words in Revelation (or to the rest of the Bible?) will be struck with plagues, and anyone that tries to remove anything from it will have his name removed from the book of life. 22:18-19

19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

WHO LIKES WHITE LINEN? WHO WEARS IT EVERYDAY (PICTURE A DESERT ARAB?)

19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
SOUNDS LIKE AN OPPRESSIVE TYRANT GODLESS RULER TO ME? WHERE IS THE PEACE?

19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;      (19:17-18)
"Come ... unto the supper of the great God."

An angel calls all the fowls to feast upon the flesh of dead horses and human bodies, "both free and bond, both small and great."
19:18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.     (19:20-21)
The beast and the false prophet are cast alive into a lake of fire. The rest were killed with the sword of Jesus. "And all the fowls were filled with their flesh."
19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.


I WILL POST THE TRUTH OF DAJJAL AND THE FALSE PROPHET FOR YOU FROM THE AUTHENTIC SOURCES AND SEE WHERE THE ROAMN SCRIBES HAVE CONFUSED THEMSELVES!! IN DUE COURSE. (NEXT FEW DAYS)

[Peter]

So according to you GOD MAKES HUMANS IN HIS OWN IMAGE TO BECOME BEASTS? WHAT a waste of creation, If the prophecy means people that are beasts it would say humans are the beast (BEAST OR BEASTS) singular would definitely indicate one animal and not nations, WHAT POLITICAL DRIVEL ARE YOU SPEWING, MORTAL WOUND... How do you come up with such complete rubbish?

You complain about my repeating things, even as you continue to exhibit why you fail to understand.

1Cr 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

Blessedly we don't need to depend on a Mohammedan's guesswork to understand how the term "beast" is defined when used in the figurative language of a dream or vision in prophecy.
So purely for the benefit of forum read-only participants...

Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth...  
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/the_beast.htm
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/johns_eight_beasts.htm
http://www.beholdthebeast.com/mathematical_precision_of_prophecy.htm

I fail to understand how you can go so far astray, pretending to know something like Ellis Skollfield does for thirty years, that is a terrible waste of his life.

I feel so sorry for the man after reading his opinions, all politically based none spiritually, based on history of empires, mathematical calculations to the year and degree and within a meter of the real dome of the Rock, based on political events effecting such a negligible amount of people its almost laughable that he focusses on cursed nation scattered like pearls from China to the Americas, The jews are powerless that is why they need all that weapons and the help of Zionists!!

Wonderful bit of fiction, well researched facts, but better stated as fiction, I like it actually pity it has nothing to do with scripture, or anyones understanding of Dajjal and the second coming of NABI EESA born of MARY.

You need to stick with the exchange you quoted rather than hiding in obfuscation by blowing in a blizzard of irrelevant and unrelated subjects false accusations and personal attacks. Surely even you can see that attacking messengers, rather than messages, is the quickest way to demonstrate your desperation and empty hand. Try to focus as the following posts will require a little linear thought.

Before I disabuse you of the notion that daniel's own definition of his "beasts" as being kingdoms, has to do with Ellis Skolfield rather than Daniel's own words, please explain to us how "it has nothing to do with scripture".

Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth....

[Peter]

I fail to understand how you can go so far astray, pretending to know something like Ellis Skollfield does for thirty years, that is a terrible waste of his life.

I feel so sorry for the man after reading his opinions, all politically based none spiritually....

But you also falsely claimed they weren't scriptural as well.
I am going to risk a second post, counting on your answering the prior post first, and then addressing this one.

Daniel defined his "beasts" as "kingdoms", and his prophecy did such a through job of describing these successive kingdoms - that were to unfold in his future - that there is a broad understanding as to which kingdoms they were.

Please click on this Google search and see how many websites include "babylon medo persia greece", together in that order, and that high count even though the search words are in quotes.
How many?
These successive ancient kingdoms were described in advance by Daniel, through his descriptions of his "lion" "bear" and "leopard" kingdom "beasts".

As you can see the vast majority (indeed virtual unanimity) of the 40,000 sites that list these kingdoms in order, are of religious content - and regard daniel's beasts - so I'm sure you would agree it would be the height of sheer stupidity for anyone to credit Ellis Skolfield for all of those various exegesis of Daniel's beasts, even as the sites unanimously agree on the identities of those kingdoms.

With me so far?

[Mujaheed]

I fail to understand how you can go so far astray, pretending to know something like Ellis Skollfield does for thirty years, that is a terrible waste of his life.

I feel so sorry for the man after reading his opinions, all politically based none spiritually....

But you also falsely claimed they weren't scriptural as well.
I am going to risk a second post, counting on your answering the prior post first, and then addressing this one.

Daniel defined his "beasts" as "kingdoms", and his prophecy did such a through job of describing these successive kingdoms - that were to unfold in his future - that there is a broad understanding as to which kingdoms they were.

Please click on this Google search and see how many websites include "babylon medo persia greece", together in that order, and that high count even though the search words are in quotes.
How many?
These successive ancient kingdoms were described in advance by Daniel, through his descriptions of his "lion" "bear" and "leopard" kingdom "beasts".

As you can see the vast majority (indeed virtual unanimity) of the 40,000 sites that list these kingdoms in order, are of religious content - and regard daniel's beasts - so I'm sure you would agree it would be the height of sheer stupidity for anyone to credit Ellis Skolfield for all of those various exegesis of Daniel's beasts, even as the sites unanimously agree on the identities of those kingdoms.

With me so far?

ALL I READ FROM THE BEAST BOOK IS THAT HE MAKES OUT A POLITICAL NOT SPIRITUAL TACTICAL ARGUMENT USING SCRIPTURE AS A JUSTIFICATION FOR HIS ASSUMPTIONS. IT IS HIS OWN WORDS THAT HE USES NOT THE SCRIPTURE IN HIS ARGUMENTS TO BRING THE POINT ACROSS OF THE FALSE PROPHET AND THE BEAST.

Daniel's lion, bear and leopard kingdom "beasts" discussed on the prior page, with a broad understanding of them to be the successive kingdoms of Babylon, Medo-Persia and Greece, reappear together in scripture only one more time - in Revelation Chapter 13 - but combined into a single composite "beast" - kingdom.

HE USES SCRIPTURE TO MAKE PERSONAL ASSUMPTIONS: HIS OPINION NOT SCRIPTURE!!!


Revelation 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as [the feet] of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. (Daniel's beast is "his")
(The Greek interlinear below helps us understand who it is that gives what to whom.)

The reverse order was perhaps because Daniel was forward looking at these kingdoms to come, while John was looking backward at their fulfillment.  This leopard-bear-lion beast was to continue 42 months.  The seats of the ancient successive kingdom beasts of Daniel's lion, bear and leopard which are widely believed to be Babylon, Medo-Persia and Greece, are occupied today by the countries of Iraq, Iran, and Syria/Lebanon. The dragon in the verse above is Satan.

It is described "as a leopard" perhaps because while an individual Muslim can change, it is impossible for Islam to change, as long as the Quran (mouth) exists:


maybe revelations can set the record straight
5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
   
(5:5) "The Lion of the tribe of Juda" How are Jesus and Satan alike?

5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.     (5:6) "I beheld ... a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God."
(3:1, 4:5, 5:6)
"The seven spirits of God" (including the Holy Spirit?)
5:7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
5:8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.   
5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;    
(5:9) "Thou art worthy ... for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood."
5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.   
5:11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;   
5:12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.   
5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.   
5:14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.

WHO EXACTLY ARE THE BEASTS? FROM HEAVEN OR FROM THE ISLAMIC COUNTRIES?

Rev. 7:1-4  --  After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree.
         Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God.  He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: "Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.
         Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel."

MARK OF THE DAJJAL IS ON THE FOREHEAD!!!

[Peter]

I fail to understand how you can go so far astray, pretending to know something like Ellis Skollfield does for thirty years, that is a terrible waste of his life.

I feel so sorry for the man after reading his opinions, all politically based none spiritually....

But you also falsely claimed they weren't scriptural as well.
I am going to risk a second post, counting on your answering the prior post first, and then addressing this one.

Daniel defined his "beasts" as "kingdoms", and his prophecy did such a through job of describing these successive kingdoms - that were to unfold in his future - that there is a broad understanding as to which kingdoms they were.

Please click on this Google search and see how many websites include "babylon medo persia greece", together in that order, and that high count even though the search words are in quotes.
How many?
These successive ancient kingdoms were described in advance by Daniel, through his descriptions of his "lion" "bear" and "leopard" kingdom "beasts".

As you can see the vast majority (indeed virtual unanimity) of the 40,000 sites that list these kingdoms in order, are of religious content - and regard daniel's beasts - so I'm sure you would agree it would be the height of sheer stupidity for anyone to credit Ellis Skolfield for all of those various exegesis of Daniel's beasts, even as the sites unanimously agree on the identities of those kingdoms.

With me so far?

ALL I READ FROM THE BEAST BOOK....

And you got mad at me when I suggested that you were incapable of linear thought. Try answering the post. Simple "yes" or "no I don't understand" would have done fine.
Did you see the over 40,000 sites that identified Daniel's lion, bear and leopard "beast" kingdoms as Babylon, Medo Persia and Greece?

[Mujaheed]

I fail to understand how you can go so far astray, pretending to know something like Ellis Skollfield does for thirty years, that is a terrible waste of his life.

I feel so sorry for the man after reading his opinions, all politically based none spiritually....

But you also falsely claimed they weren't scriptural as well.
I am going to risk a second post, counting on your answering the prior post first, and then addressing this one.

Daniel defined his "beasts" as "kingdoms", and his prophecy did such a through job of describing these successive kingdoms - that were to unfold in his future - that there is a broad understanding as to which kingdoms they were.

Please click on this Google search and see how many websites include "babylon medo persia greece", together in that order, and that high count even though the search words are in quotes.
How many?
These successive ancient kingdoms were described in advance by Daniel, through his descriptions of his "lion" "bear" and "leopard" kingdom "beasts".

As you can see the vast majority (indeed virtual unanimity) of the 40,000 sites that list these kingdoms in order, are of religious content - and regard daniel's beasts - so I'm sure you would agree it would be the height of sheer stupidity for anyone to credit Ellis Skolfield for all of those various exegesis of Daniel's beasts, even as the sites unanimously agree on the identities of those kingdoms.

With me so far?

ALL I READ FROM THE BEAST BOOK....

And you got mad at me when I suggested that you were incapable of linear thought. Try answering the post. Simple "yes" or "no I don't understand" would have done fine.
Did you see the over 40,000 sites that identified Daniel's lion, bear and leopard "beast" kingdoms as Babylon, Medo Persia and Greece?

LET ME GO THROUGH ELLIS SKOLLFIELDS FICTION AGAIN AND I WILL COME BACK TO THE POST< U RIGHT I RUSHED THAT ANSWER.

[Peter]

LET ME GO THROUGH ELLIS SKOLLFIELDS FICTION AGAIN AND I WILL COME BACK TO THE POST< U RIGHT I RUSHED THAT ANSWER.

When did our conversation require you to go through anything of Ellis Skolfield? You failed again to answer the same simple question that had nothing whatsoever to do with Skolfield. Do you see what I mean about your having lost the ability to think critically? Review our conversation and just look at how incoherent you are.

All you had to do was give a simple (and obvious) answer to two posts in order, yet you are an abject and epic failure, in doing so. Read the posts again, in order, at these links.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=885.msg8198#msg8198
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=885.msg8199#msg8199
If you fail to answer those 2 posts again, all you will be doing is offering proof, of just how broken your mind is.

I believe that bent minds come in part from praying on a clock, in the vain repetitions of the heathen. Mohammed's followers must barely be able start to function again, when it's time to interrupt themselves and bow toward the Quraish's black stone idol again.
Regarding my repetition, for reasons of your inability to engage in an exchange, as you example in this and most every other thread, repetition may be the only way to get through to Mohammedans. But sadly, even that doesn't seem to get through the antichrist armor.

[Mujaheed]

LET ME GO THROUGH ELLIS SKOLLFIELDS FICTION AGAIN AND I WILL COME BACK TO THE POST< U RIGHT I RUSHED THAT ANSWER.

When did our conversation require you to go through anything of Ellis Skolfield? You failed again to answer the same simple question that had nothing whatsoever to do with Skolfield. Do you see what I mean about your having lost the ability to think critically? Review our conversation and just look at how incoherent you are.

All you had to do was give a simple (and obvious) answer to two posts in order, yet you are an abject and epic failure, in doing so. Read the posts again, in order, at these links.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=885.msg8198#msg8198
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=885.msg8199#msg8199
If you fail to answer those 2 posts again, all you will be doing is offering proof, of just how broken your mind is.

I believe that bent minds come in part from praying on a clock, in the vain repetitions of the heathen. Mohammed's followers must barely be able start to function again, when it's time to interrupt themselves and bow toward the Quraish's black stone idol again.
Regarding my repetition, for reasons of your inability to engage in an exchange, as you example in this and most every other thread, repetition may be the only way to get through to Mohammedans. But sadly, even that doesn't seem to get through the antichrist armor.

WHATS YOU POINT HERE? TRYING TO MAKE ANOTHER FALSE STATEMENT AND GUESSING (CONJECTURE) ABOUT THE STATE OF MY MIND?

[Peter]

That your mind prevents you from answering the 2 simple posts, that began at the top of this forum page, that I even provided links to again in the post you just quoted, so you again demonstrated my point.

[Mujaheed]

That your mind prevents you from answering the 2 simple posts, that began at the top of this forum page, that I even provided links to again in the post you just quoted, so you again demonstrated my point.

MY POINT WAS THAT ELLIS SKOLFIELDS OPINION IS POLITICALLY MOTIVATED, as in DANIEL SAYS THIS THEREFORE IT IS AS THE OT SAYS< ES CONCLUDES (CONJECTURE IT MUST POINT TO THE MODERN ARAB COUNTRIES AND LEAVING OUT THE MAIN USA ALLY ARABIA?

[Peter]

Again proving yourself mentally incapable of answering the 2 simple posts.

[Mujaheed]

Again proving yourself mentally incapable of answering the 2 simple posts.

MAYBE I LIKE SIMPLICITY, IT KEEPS ME FROM LYING AND CONJECTURE.

SCRIBES AND PHARISEES, tsk tsk tsk

[Peter]

And again. But you aren't fooling your fellow Muslims who are watching you run from truth and squirm like a little girl, rather than simply exercising the courtesy of observing forum rules, let alone common decency of answering the replies that were posted to your replies. Anyone that looks at the progression of our chat can see why. That's why it's so nice to have such a reliable record.

[Mujaheed]

And again. But you aren't fooling your fellow Muslims who are watching you run from truth and squirm like a little girl, rather than simply exercising the courtesy of observing forum rules, let alone common decency of answering the replies that were posted to your replies. Anyone that looks at the progression of our chat can see why. That's why it's so nice to have such a reliable record.

YOU SEEM TO FORGET THE HEADING OF THIS POST AND WHO DEVIATED FROM IT WITH ABSURD QUESTIONS?

YOU AND ELLIS SKOLLFIELD ARGUE THE BIBLE AS IF GOD SENT HIS PROPHETS FOR YOU TO ENGAGE IN POLITICAL SLANDER< NO SPIRITUAL DISCUSSIONS JUST GOVERNEMENTS AND WHO WILL RULE AND HOW THE CHRISTIANS ARE GOING TO EXACT REVENGE (THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH?) WELL THE MUSLIMS ARE THE INHERITORS OF THE NEXT ETERNAL LIFE

The Bible is not a nation or other religion bashing book as Ellis Skollfield and you are using so he may have quoted a few of verses of Daniel but his angle is not biblical is political. does that answer you sufficiently

YOU GIVE A POLITICAL ANSWERS AS A REPLY TO QUESTIONS OF BELIEF AND SPPIRITUALITY

I ASK YOU IF A GOD DIED ON THE CROSS? YOU CANT ANSWER AND P{OST A REPLY ABOUT THE SEVENTH CENTURY RELIGION. NOT FACTS BUT YOUR OPINION OF THE RELIGION WITHOUT AS MUCH AS A SINGLE LINE THAT PROVES YOUR POINT>

[Peter]

And again. But you aren't fooling your fellow Muslims who are watching you run from truth and squirm like a little girl, rather than simply exercising the courtesy of observing forum rules, let alone common decency of answering the replies that were posted to your replies. Anyone that looks at the progression of our chat can see why. That's why it's so nice to have such a reliable record.

YOU SEEM TO FORGET THE HEADING OF THIS POST AND WHO DEVIATED FROM IT WITH ABSURD QUESTIONS?

YOU AND ELLIS SKOLLFIELD ARGUE THE BIBLE AS IF GOD SENT HIS PROPHETS FOR YOU TO ENGAGE IN POLITICAL SLANDER< NO SPIRITUAL DISCUSSIONS JUST GOVERNEMENTS AND WHO WILL RULE AND HOW THE CHRISTIANS ARE GOING TO EXACT REVENGE (THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH?) WELL THE MUSLIMS ARE THE INHERITORS OF THE NEXT ETERNAL LIFE

The Bible is not a nation or other religion bashing book as Ellis Skollfield and you are using so he may have quoted a few of verses of Daniel but his angle is not biblical is political. does that answer you sufficiently

YOU GIVE A POLITICAL ANSWERS AS A REPLY TO QUESTIONS OF BELIEF AND SPPIRITUALITY

I ASK YOU IF A GOD DIED ON THE CROSS? YOU CANT ANSWER AND P{OST A REPLY ABOUT THE SEVENTH CENTURY RELIGION. NOT FACTS BUT YOUR OPINION OF THE RELIGION WITHOUT AS MUCH AS A SINGLE LINE THAT PROVES YOUR POINT>

When you suggested "...I AM PRAYING THAT SOMEONE MOVE IN NEXT DOOR TO YOU LIKE ME, INFORMED,..." suggesting that sharing Mohammedan lies would be a way to love a neighbor, through the obvious ignorance to scripture and history you keep demonstrating, I shared with the read-only participants the fate of the beast and false prophet to help them understand consequences.

Then you went on falsely attributing what is "according to" me "So according to you GOD MAKES HUMANS IN HIS OWN IMAGE TO BECOME BEASTS? WHAT a waste of creation, If the prophecy means people that are beasts it would say humans are the beast (BEAST OR BEASTS) singular would definitely indicate one animal and not nations, WHAT POLITICAL DRIVEL ARE YOU SPEWING..."
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1938.msg8125#msg8125

Demonstrating as much willingness to lie about me, as you demonstrate as much ignorance to this passage, as you did for those that regard Abraham, Hagar and Ishmael.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1906.75

So I tried to educate you regarding the most widely held understanding of Daniel's term "beast" and the most widely held understanding of what kingdoms his beasts represent, and you have avoided it and run from it like a little girl from it ever since. And still are thereby continuing to demonstrate the mental dysfunction that this forum page attests.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1938.msg8198#msg8198
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1938.msg8199#msg8199

[Mujaheed]

And again. But you aren't fooling your fellow Muslims who are watching you run from truth and squirm like a little girl, rather than simply exercising the courtesy of observing forum rules, let alone common decency of answering the replies that were posted to your replies. Anyone that looks at the progression of our chat can see why. That's why it's so nice to have such a reliable record.

YOU SEEM TO FORGET THE HEADING OF THIS POST AND WHO DEVIATED FROM IT WITH ABSURD QUESTIONS?

YOU AND ELLIS SKOLLFIELD ARGUE THE BIBLE AS IF GOD SENT HIS PROPHETS FOR YOU TO ENGAGE IN POLITICAL SLANDER< NO SPIRITUAL DISCUSSIONS JUST GOVERNEMENTS AND WHO WILL RULE AND HOW THE CHRISTIANS ARE GOING TO EXACT REVENGE (THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH?) WELL THE MUSLIMS ARE THE INHERITORS OF THE NEXT ETERNAL LIFE

The Bible is not a nation or other religion bashing book as Ellis Skollfield and you are using so he may have quoted a few of verses of Daniel but his angle is not biblical is political. does that answer you sufficiently

YOU GIVE A POLITICAL ANSWERS AS A REPLY TO QUESTIONS OF BELIEF AND SPPIRITUALITY

I ASK YOU IF A GOD DIED ON THE CROSS? YOU CANT ANSWER AND P{OST A REPLY ABOUT THE SEVENTH CENTURY RELIGION. NOT FACTS BUT YOUR OPINION OF THE RELIGION WITHOUT AS MUCH AS A SINGLE LINE THAT PROVES YOUR POINT>

When you suggested "...I AM PRAYING THAT SOMEONE MOVE IN NEXT DOOR TO YOU LIKE ME, INFORMED,..." suggesting that sharing Mohammedan lies would be a way to love a neighbor, through the obvious ignorance to scripture and history you keep demonstrating, I shared with the read-only participants the fate of the beast and false prophet to help them understand consequences.

Then you went on falsely attributing what is "according to" me "So according to you GOD MAKES HUMANS IN HIS OWN IMAGE TO BECOME BEASTS? WHAT a waste of creation, If the prophecy means people that are beasts it would say humans are the beast (BEAST OR BEASTS) singular would definitely indicate one animal and not nations, WHAT POLITICAL DRIVEL ARE YOU SPEWING..."
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1938.msg8125#msg8125

Demonstrating as much willingness to lie about me, as you demonstrate as much ignorance to this passage, as you did for those that regard Abraham, Hagar and Ishmael.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1906.75

So I tried to educate you regarding the most widely held understanding of Daniel's term "beast" and the most widely held understanding of what kingdoms his beasts represent, and you have avoided it and run from it like a little girl from it ever since. And still are thereby continuing to demonstrate the mental dysfunction that this forum page attests.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1938.msg8198#msg8198
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1938.msg8199#msg8199

WHO IS BEAST? ARE THE BEAST FROM GOD Or IS IT NOT?
Revelations?
4:5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.    (4:5) "The seven Spirits of God."
4:6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.    (4:6-8) The four beasts
John sees four beasts, each with six wings and "full of eyes."
4:7 And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.   
4:8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, LORD God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.    Vision of the throne of the Lord
(Unknown, c. 1400)
4:9 And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever,
4:10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.


Daniel's chapter 7 dream begins:

Daniel 7:1 In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, [and] told the sum of the matters.

We learn that this prophecy is about 4 "beasts":

Daniel 7:3  And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
Daniel 7:4  The first [was] like a lion...
Daniel 7:5  And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear...
Daniel 7:6  After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard...
Daniel 7:7  After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible...

We later learn:

Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

So in the figurative language of a dream or vision in prophecy: 



beast = kingdom

WHATS A KINGDOM? AND EMPTY PIECE OF LAND OR THE MONARCHY OF A KING OR TYRANT RULER?