Chat with faro Nov-Dec 2010

[Peter]

For folks that are honestly seeking truth, better to click the following link to view a Q&A with a sweet Muslim gal on her genuine quest, rather than the following bare knuckled exchange with one of Mohammed's proselytizers/Deedat's disciples (automatons).
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=707.0
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In typical fashion you will notice that even though I reply to his points and questions repeatedly he repeats the same old lines as though I never replied. At the same time you will observe that he almost never replies to my questions, or to my replies to his inquiry, because Mohammed's religion is exposed and left naked in the light of truth of God's Word, history, archaeology and geography.

All PMs from faro are copy and pasted intact. Most that I quoted in their entirety in my reply, have been moved to the chat extension, so you wouldn't have to read the material twice. If anyone finds a topic in the extension that I did not cover, that they have an interest in, please let me know and I will be happy to address it.

The chat with faro began with his two channel comments on my Brotherjw Channel. The video he is making reference to can be accessed at this link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN-_20sjHVI
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He wrote

fLAG THESE VIDEOS LOOK HOW MANY DISLIKES YOU HAVE AND LOOK HOW MANY LIKES AHMED DEEDATE AND HIS VIDEOS HAVE YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS DOESNT EXCEED THE PHARISES WHAT IF GOD FORBIDS THE KINGDOM TO YOU WE HAVE MANY REVERTS TO ISLAM FROM CHRISTIANITY AND COUNTING THIS MAN AND HOW HE REVEALEVED AND EXPOSED THE TRUTH THAT LITTLE TRUTH IN THE BIBLE YOU WISH TO EXTINGUISH NAY YOU CANT YOU NEVER WILL mAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOU

[Peter]

COMMENT PENDING APPORVAL LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA !!!

[Peter]

Peter PM reply Nov 20

[[[fLAG THESE VIDEOS LOOK HOW MANY DISLIKES YOU HAVE ......]]]]]

Perhaps you believe truth is about popularity.

[[[[[..... AND LOOK HOW MANY LIKES AHMED DEEDATE AND HIS VIDEOS HAVE ......]]]]]

That only demonstrates how he fooled poor folks through his fake homemade bible verse. Let's see if you have even a little shred of independent thought capability left.

Please watch the attached video and see if you agree with Deedat, that the First Epistle of John confirms Mohammed was a true prophet, and not antichrist.

Who's right and who's wrong?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_4_tbN-b_A

[Peter]

Nov 22

[[[[ummmmmm ahmed deedats likes trump the dislikes sorry people dont like hearing the truth my bad my bad ]]]]]

See what I mean?

You couldn't even start a reply. It's impossible for you to engage in an exchange.
You don't have even a smidgen of critical thought left in you. You are a mind numbed automaton - like a zombie.

I asked you to tell me who is right and who is wrong, yet you couldn't even think your way into an answer, to that simple question. There is only one answer.

Does John's first epistle confirm Mohammed was a true prophet and not antichrist, like Deedat suggested?

I proved to you that Deedat was A LIAR, that CREATED HIS OWN BIBLE VERSE to deceive you, yet you continue to defend him.
If you didn't want to watch the video, go to the text version at the link on the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_4_tbN-b_A

It is popular worlds fastest growing religion
http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/jesusq.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhazm0UdlTc

click this link its when you type ahmed deedat just ahmed deedat

Ratings for this video (2875 total)
Number of likes 2669
Number of dislikes 206

lol dude you insult a man who has passed away you have no guilt are you even christian are you????

ARE YOU
WWJD

Matt. 5:44
~I say unto u, Love ur enemies, bless them that curse u, do go0d to them that hate u, and pRay for them which despitefully use u and persecute u

[Peter]

Nov 22

Denial is a virtue its a defense mechanism read about you my friend are in denial!!!!!!!!

[Peter]

Nov 23

[[[You know what im saying WWJD delete those videos!]]]]

See what I mean? You're entirely incapable of thinking for yourself. Also believing that the thing to do with truth is censor it, just like bibles have been banned in Islamic countries. Just like Islam's fear of truth for 1400 years.

You want the truth deleted so Ahmed Deedat's lies can stand uncorrected.
Previously you wrote....

[[[lol dude you insult a man who has passed away you have no guilt are you even christian are you????]]]]

Insult? I labeled him a liar which my video proved. It is a simple matter of fact. But that isn't all that makes Deedat a liar...

1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not GOD HATH MADE HIM A LIAR; because he BELIEVETH NOT THE RECORDd that God gave of his Son.

Are we to pretend Hitler was a nice guy just because he's dead? Pretend the holocaust never happened?
(Though you likely already do.)

Deedat is alive and well on YouTube thanks to his adoring bible-ignorant minions like you.

And even though it has been proven to you that Deedat was a hopeless liar (and was repeatedly corrected by men of faith) you still defend his lies.
That's because you follow the father of lies through his prophet Mohammed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_4_tbN-b_A

[Peter]

Nov 30

[[[["Deedat is alive and well on YouTube thanks to his adoring bible-ignorant minions like you.

And even though it has been proven to you that Deedat was a hopeless liar (and was repeatedly corrected by men of faith) you still defend his lies.
That's because you follow the father of lies through his prophet Mohammed."

lol im in the process of reverting .......]]]

"reverting" to a 7th century religion. Isn't that amusing?

[[[[........ two people if God wills you are not a true christian i know that much ]]]]]

You are winning people through satanic lies like Deedat's that I proved to you.

[[[[God will Show u what u did no man cant die for ur sins]]]]]

And that's the tragedy of it. Satan manifest through his false prophet Mohammed forcing you to reject the whole subject of the Gospel - he very blood that would save you.

[Peter]

[[[[CHina banned the bible too ....]]]]

If Satan's need to censor truth and the power of it, doesn't clue you, then you perhaps you do deserve the end you are heading for by following A SINGLE, 7th century, illiterate, pillaging, plundering, murdering, child doing, prisoner raping, stepson's only wife taking, sex slave prostituting, concubine fornicating, cheating, blood drenched, imperialistic, conquering, terrorist, thief. A man, and book that are THE EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus and the New Testament..

If you believe a single characterization above is unsupportable through YOUR OWN BOOKS please advise and I will provide the support.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Rdej28pP4

Nov 23

... lol all muslim countries what about south africa sorry that your man written words are banned we dont allow pornagraphy in our countries they are from satan

read your bible hunny its dangerous
ezekial 23

1The word of the Lord came to me: 2"Son of man, there were two women, daughters of the same mother. 3They became prostitutes in Egypt, engaging in prostitution from their youth. In that land their breasts were fondled and their virgin bosoms caressed. 4The older was named Oholah, and her sister was Oholibah. They were mine and gave birth to sons and daughters. Oholah is Samaria, and Oholibah is Jerusalem.

5"Oholah engaged in prostitution while she was still mine; and she lusted after her lovers, the Assyrians—warriors 6clothed in blue, governors and commanders, all of them handsome young men, and mounted horsemen. 7She gave herself as a prostitute to all the elite of the Assyrians and defiled herself with all the idols of everyone she lusted after. 8She did not give up the prostitution she began in Egypt, when during her youth men slept with her, caressed her virgin bosom and poured out their lust upon her.

9"Therefore I handed her over to her lovers, the Assyrians, for whom she lusted. 10They stripped her naked, took away her sons and daughters and killed her with the sword. She became a byword among women, and punishment was inflicted on her.

11"Her sister Oholibah saw this, yet in her lust and prostitution she was more depraved than her sister. 12She too lusted after the Assyrians—governors and commanders, warriors in full dress, mounted horsemen, all handsome young men. 13I saw that she too defiled herself; both of them went the same way.

14"But she carried her prostitution still further. She saw men portrayed on a wall, figures of Chaldeansa portrayed in red, 15with belts around their waists and flowing turbans on their heads; all of them looked like Babylonian chariot officers, natives of Chaldea.b 16As soon as she saw them, she lusted after them and sent messengers to them in Chaldea. 17Then the Babylonians came to her, to the bed of love, and in their lust they defiled her. After she had been defiled by them, she turned away from them in disgust. 18When she carried on her prostitution openly and exposed her nakedness, I turned away from her in disgust, just as I had turned away from her sister. 19Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. 21So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled.c

22"Therefore, Oholibah, this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will stir up your lovers against you, those you turned away from in disgust, and I will bring them against you from every side— 23the Babylonians and all the Chaldeans, the men of Pekod and Shoa and Koa, and all the Assyrians with them, handsome young men, all of them governors and commanders, chariot officers and men of high rank, all mounted on horses. 24They will come against you with weapons,d chariots and wagons and with a throng of people; they will take up positions against you on every side with large and small shields and with helmets. I will turn you over to them for punishment, and they will punish you according to their standards. 25I will direct my jealous anger against you, and they will deal with you in fury. They will cut off your noses and your ears, and those of you who are left will fall by the sword. They will take away your sons and daughters, and those of you who are left will be consumed by fire. 26They will also strip you of your clothes and take your fine jewelry. 27So I will put a stop to the lewdness and prostitution you began in Egypt. You will not look on these things with longing or remember Egypt anymore.

28"For this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am about to hand you over to those you hate, to those you turned away from in disgust. 29They will deal with you in hatred and take away everything you have worked for. They will leave you naked and bare, and the shame of your prostitution will be exposed. Your lewdness and promiscuity 30have brought this upon you, because you lusted after the nations and defiled yourself with their idols. 31You have gone the way of your sister; so I will put her cup into your hand.

[Peter]

Dec 1

Dont Worry im not allowed to argue with you : )
But
Its
not christian for you to do this
5:82 Strongest among men in enmity to the believers

wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among

them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say,

"We are Christians": because amongst these are men

devoted to learning and men who have renounced the

world, and they are not arrogant.


5:83 And when they listen to the revelation received

by the Messenger, thou wilt see their eyes overflowing with

tears, for they recognise the truth: they pray: "Our Lord!

we believe; write us down among the witnesses.


5:84 "What cause can we have not to believe in Allah

and the truth which has come to us, seeing that we long

for our Lord to admit us to the company of the righteous?"


5:85 And for this their prayer hath Allah rewarded

them with gardens, with rivers flowing underneath,- their

eternal home. Such is the recompense of those who do

good.


5:86 But those who reject Faith and belie our Signs,-

they shall be companions of Hell-fire.

[Peter]

Dec 1

The Muslims say" Peace to yo" ("Assalamu-Alaikum"), whenever they meet each other. The same does Jesus.Then, the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled,[a] for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in the midst, and said to them, "Peace be with you." 21 So Jesus said to them again, "Peace to you! Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, "Peace to you!" John 20:19, 21, (New King James Version). 36 Now as they said these things, Jesus Himself stood in the midst of them, and said to them, "Peace to you." Luke 24:36 (New King James Version)
Jesus worships just like Muslims
39 He went a little farther and fell on His face, and prayed, saying, "O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as You will." Matthew 26:39 (New King James Version).
35 He went a little farther, and fell on the ground, and prayed that if it were possible, the hour might pass from Him. Mark 14:35 (New King James Version)
Jesus worships the Lord alone
Now it came to pass, as He was praying in a certain place (Luke11:1)10 Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you,[a] Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.'"[ Matthew 4:10 (New Kin .g James Version).
[Qur'an 1:5] " You alone we worship; You alone we ask for help". [3:50] "I (Jesus) confirm previous scripture - the Torah - and I revoke certain prohibitions imposed upon you. I come to you with sufficient proof from your Lord. Therefore, you shall observe GOD, and obey me.
[Qur'an 3:51] "GOD is my Lord and your Lord; you shall worship Him alone. This is the right path."
[Qur'an 43:63] When Jesus went with the proofs, he said, "I bring to you wisdom, and to clarify some of the matters in which you dispute. You shall reverence GOD and obey me.
Jesus's God is Alaha (Allah)
34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?" which is translated, "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?" Mark 15:34 (New King James Version). Eloi means Alaha in the Aramic language and Allah in Arabic.
Jesus belived in Torah
Jesus believed in the TORAH as the Muslims do. 17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one tittle of the law to fail. Luke 16:17 (New King James Version).
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 018: For verily I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, until all is accomplished. 019: Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 020: For I say unto you, that except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven Matthew 5: 17 -- 20
Jesus never ate the swine


[for read-only participants regarding Mohammed styled prayer http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2119.msg9138#msg9138
of course any notions of Mohammed's followers observing anything but Mohammed's laws are ridiculous, particularly when Mohammed made his holy day on Friday instead of the Sabbath to insult the Jews http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2119.msg9258#msg9258 ]

[Peter]

Dec 1

Jesus tells Muhammad's coming
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. 8And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me; 10 of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; 11 of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
12 "I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. 14 He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. 15 All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.(John 16:7-15)
[Qur'an 61:6] Recall that Jesus, son of Mary, said, "O Children of Israel, I am GOD's messenger to you, confirming the Torah and bringing good news of a messenger to come after me whose name will be even more praised (Ahmad)." Then, when he showed them the clear proofs, they said, "This is profound magic."
The Christians do not believe in Muhammad.

[edit for forum read-only participants - how could a Christian believe in a 7th century false prophet that taught the exact opposite of the Gospel? Answer to Deedat's false Comforter teachings here http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=224.0 ]

[Peter]

12-1

The Prophets do not make idols or images like Muslims
Promise of Blessing and Retribution
1 'You shall not make idols for yourselves;
neither a carved image nor a sacred pillar shall you rear up for yourselves;
nor shall you set up an engraved stone in your land, to bow down to it;
for I am the LORD your God.
Leviticus 26:1 (New King James Version)
21 "You shall not plant for yourself any tree, as a wooden image, near the altar which you build for yourself to the LORD your God. 22 You shall not set up a sacred pillar, which the LORD your God hates. Deuteronomy 16:21-22 (New King James Version)
Who is Israel ?(according to the Bible)
Jakob's name was changed to Israel after his wrestling with en angel
28 And He said, "Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel;[a]for you have struggled with God and with men, and have prevailed." Genesis 32:28 (New King James Version)
Who are the Jews?
Judah was nicknamed "Jew". The descendantds of Jacob are Israelites consisting of the twelve tribes. So that only Judah's descendants wer called jews originally.
Who is Moses ?
Moses was the "Law-giver" to the children of Israel.Torah is Law and the Jews / Christians believe that its five Books are written by Moses himself.
Was Moses a Jew ? (according to the Bible)
Moses was descended from Levite. He was not a Jew because he was not descended from Judah.
16 These are the names of the sons of Levi according to their generations: Gershon, Kohath, and Merari... 18 And the sons of Kohath were Amram, Izhar, Hembron, and Uzziel.
20 Now Amram took for himself Jochebed, his father's sister, as wife; and she bore him Aaron and Moses. Exodus 6:16, 18, 20 (New King James Version).
Moses was not Jew.
Genesis 12:4-5 (New International Version)
4 So Abram left, as the LORD had told him; and Lot went with him. Abram was seventy-five years old when he set out from Haran. 5 He took his wife Sarai, his nephew Lot, all the possessions they had accumulated and the people they had acquired in Haran, and they set out for the land of Canaan, and they arrived there(Genesis 12:4-5).

[edit for read-only participants - always interesting when Muslims bring up the subject of idolatry since they prostrate themselves toward the Quraish's black stone idol 5 times a day - addressed later on http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2119.msg9131#msg9131 ]

[Peter]

12-1

And im not satan ok!

[Peter]

Dec 1

[[[And im not satan ok!]]]]]

I never said you were Satan, my friend.
Even Mohammed taught that Satan is the greatest of schemers.
Do you really believe that those that have been deceived by Satan realize that they have been?

Regarding all of the false presumptions and proof-texted nonsense, we have a whole section that covers that Ahmed Deedat - Greek sophist styled foolishness in the forum.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=33.0

But you can set all your wishful hoping regarding Mohammed in scripture aside, because only one thing matters, my friend.

As a follower of Mohammed you are required to deny the blood that would save you. The sacrifice of the Lamb of God.
Why do you suppose the Messiah's name "Yeshua" means YHWH saves? Saves us from what?

You deny the sacrifice of the Lamb of God even though the crucifixion of the Messiah was prophesied many hundreds of years in advance in the Old Testament.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=1007.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bge80vsa4YE

[Peter]

[[[R u teaching me islam and what my religions says lol U r mean by the way Im not......u do a dishonor to christians everywhere dude seriously !]]]]]

Are you saying that you accept the blood that Jesus shed for you?

Mat 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

From the Quran.

Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- BUT THEY KILLED HIM NOT NOR CRUCIFIED HIM, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

You see, my friend, that single verse rejects the primary subject of the Gospel. The subject of the new covenant we were brought through Jesus Christ.

So what part did I get wrong? Surely you can see that Mohammed taught the EXACT OPPOSITE of the Gospel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4rtYAO3UxA

[Peter]

[[[[Dude blood that will save me man that kinda stuff scares me satan worshippers do human sacrifice plz dont say such things!]]]]

What do you suppose the alter in Solomon's temple was for?
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=519.0

[[[[Paul is a deceiver dude they warn about him ........]]]]

But it isn't about Paul. You reject the Gospel to follow Mohammed, who denied Jesus' crucifixion over 500 years after the eyewitnesses testified to the fact.

Matthew 27:35 And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.

Mark 15:24 And when they had crucified him, they parted his garments, casting lots upon them, what every man should take.

Luke 24:20 And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him.

John 19:23 Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also [his] coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout.

Just as it was prophesied so many hundreds of years in advance.

Psalms 22:16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. 17 I may tell all my bones: they look [and] stare upon me. 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

[[[[[........... in most of the banned gospels i grew up with all christians the nicest people in the world but they do also have there black sheep but i ignored them add me on facebook
zes--- faro---!]]]]

[Peter]

12-1

From faroo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ek5G6337yU

[Peter]

From Peter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80TyYivFsVA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4rtYAO3UxA

[Peter]

12-1

From faroo

LOL u have no idea who ur talking to do u!

[Peter]

[[[And for saying: "We killed the Christ, Jesus, son of Mary, who was an apostle of God;" but they neither killed nor crucified him, though it so appeared to them. Those who disagree in the matter are only lost in doubt. They have no knowledge about it other than conjecture, for surely they did not kill him,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ek5G6337yU

Its Allah defending jesus have u read the thalmud!]]]]]

Sorry but that's Mohammed's alter-ego "Allah" calling Jesus a liar.
See what I mean? You have to reject Jesus sacrifice for us to follow Mohammed.

There is not a single mainstream sect of Judaism that does not believe Jesus was killed. And of course a person couldn't be a Christian without believing that Jesus was crucified because that is what the Gospel is all about.

So why don't you tell me who you believe died on the cross.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=628.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1QPjbzdnlo

[Peter]

12-1

What did u think of the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ek5G6337yU

[Peter]

[[[What did u think of the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ek5G6337yU]]]]]

What value does a willful unregenerate provide to our chat?
Of what importance does the Talmud serve since even the Jews do not consider it inspired?

You are trying to run and hide from the truth. And that truth is in Jesus Christ, my friend.

That's why you never answered my question regarding why the Messiah's name "Yeshua" means YHWH saves, delivers or rescues.
Rescues us from what?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshua_%28name%29#Etymology

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ8cnOoXBhA

[Peter]

[[[[Not through his blood but his teachings his original teachings did u watch the video they till today say in boast we killed jesus and Allah defends him theres not one verse that insults jesus ........]]]]]

That single verse blasphemes Jesus and rejects the whole Gospel. But that certainly isn't the only reason we can judge Mohammed's inspiration. First we were warned about who Mohammed met in that cave.

2Cr 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Yet even Mohammed identified the spirit as a jinn-demon until his wife talked him out of it.
Another way we can tell is Satan, through Mohammed, filled his followers with the spirit of antichrist.

1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? HE IS ANTICHRIST, THAT DENIETH the Father and THE SON. 23 WHOSOEVER DENIETH THE SON, THE SAME HATH NOT THE FATHER:

[[[[........ dude u guys cant ignore islam anymore 2 billion and growing faster than christians without our own missionaries even after 9 11 we grew more and more but its ok .......]]]]

Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for WIDE [IS] THE GATE, AND BROAD [IS THE WAY, THAT LEADETH TO DESTRUCTION, and many there be which go in thereat:

[[[[[........ im not hiding or runneing]]]]]

Then why didn't you answer who you believe died on the cross?
Why didn't you answer why the Messiah's name means YHWH rescues, saves, delivers?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ8cnOoXBhA

[Peter]

[[[Psalm 2:7 and John 3:16 are contradictions the book NOT THE ORIGINAL GOSPEL OF JESUS
The Gospel according to you is rejecting itself who it the first or second begotten not made that is blasphemous .......]]]]]

To Mohammed's followers that is blasphemy. It isn't even logical to deny it. If God didn't beget Jesus then who is responsible for Mary conceiving Jesus? Who was Jesus' Father, Mary? There are hundreds of verses that attest that God is Jesus' Father but you have to deny the Gospel to follow Mohammed.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=610.0

[[[[....... that u say God Begot a Son
112:1 Say: "He is God, the One,"
112:2 "God, the Absolute,"
112:3 "He does not beget, nor was He begotten,"
112:4 "And there is none who are His equal."]]]]]

God's Spirit is God and Jesus IS God. All God. Nothing higher or lower. The same.

Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they [also] which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?board=43.0

Even you believe that Mohammed's "Allah" has a spirit yet you can't even see that makes you a polytheistic hypocrite by your own measure.

Sura 38:72 "When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him of MY SPIRIT, fall ye down in obeisance unto him."

[[[[OK
Get with it God Is not the author of contradictions or pornography ezekiel 23 and many others .......]]]]]

All you are saying is you don't want to try to understand ancient metaphors because you would rather blaspheme YHWH to follow Mohammed.

After all these centuries why do you suppose it is that no Jewish scribes chose to censor the more controversial parts of the Old Testament?
Because they couldn't and conform to Hebrew scribal protocol. It helps show us that the scriptures have been handed down to us very much intact.

Here's a YouTube regarding Ezekeiel 23 but you won't even watch it because you don't really care about doing anything but rejecting Jesus to follow Mohammed.
That's why you are mucking about in the old covenant trying to create reasons to reject YHWH.

You march around with a copy of the Gospel of Barnabas as though it's your answer, when you obviously never even read it.
Did you ever even read the Gospel of John?
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/gospel_of_john.htm

How about John's First Epistle that Ahmed Deedat claimed proves Mohammed to be a true prophet and not antichrist? These links are to the same version he used to quote from. Have you even enough critical thinking ability left to read it and decide for yourself? To decide if Deedat was right or wrong?
http://www.islamandthetruth.com/first_epistle_john.htm

[[[[......... and He is definitely not the author of lies i accept the truth about my religion but i diffrenciate it with the people of the religion ok get with it and im not a mohammadan k im a MUSLIM one who submits to The One God
HEar o israel You lord our God is absolute ONE AND ONLY

NOT ONE IN THREE OR THREE IN ONE]]]]

But you don't have to follow Mohammed's blasphemy to understand that. It only takes a little effort.
By the measure you apply to Christians you already believe in 2 Gods.

Sura 32:9 But HE fashioned him in due proportion, and breathed into him something OF HIS SPIRIT. And He gave you (the faculties of) hearing and sight and feeling (and understanding): little thanks do ye give!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRE1mg9j3Xo

[Peter]

Dec 1

[[[And how dare u insult Gabriel and call him a Jinn and Demon ......]]]]]

That's what Mohammed himself called him. Then his wife talked him out of it. Don't you even know the story?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNbzevID550

Of course Mohammed's subsequent unwitnessed "revelations", unfulfilled prophecy, and failure to even perform a single miracle, demonstrate that he was guided by Satan because he WAS and taught the EXACT OPPOSITE of Jesus Christ through ALL of His witnesses. Let alone when we see how Islam's books portray his character.

[[[[[....... how dare you Y cant we live in peace bro Y Y Y
I dont understand man ppl like u all like minded bigots and anti semetics just keep attacking us Y Y Y]]]]]

Please show me where I attacked you.
See how you turn to false accusation?
You desire to make this about you and I, rather than about the 1600 year record of YHWH through ALL of His prophets and witnesses that you reject, to follow the 23 year record of a.....

Quran Sura 33:50-51 "O prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war ...

Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"

Sahih Muslim Book 8:3431: "It is permissible to have sexual intercourse with a captive woman after she is purified (of menses or delivery) in case she has a husband, her marriage is abrogated after she becomes captive.

..... 7th century prisoner rapist.
And you complain about the metaphor in Ezekiel 23!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRE1mg9j3Xo