[[[[[.... I don't want much to do with you and your arguments, I've heard them all before a thousand times and I've refuted people like you a thousand times.]]]]
We find that, universally, Muhammad's followers seem to believe that simply because they are willing to declare something, that it will then magically become true. Where in the body of this chat was there a single refutation?
He did cite books by a single 21st century unregenerate agnostic as if that individual has authority over thousands of years of Judeo/Christian authorship, scholarship and apologetics.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2557.msg10483#msg10483 However even Psy must believe his own source to be a liar, because Ehrman confirms the historicity of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2558.0 The EXACT OPPOSITE of Simonianism in Muhammadanism.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2475.0I pointed out that there is not a shred of historical, archaeological, scriptural or geographical evidence that suggests that Mecca ever existed before the 4th century AD, and Psy failed to present evidence to refute that claim.
http://www.petewaldo.com/origins_of_islam.htmI explained to Psy that Islamic rituals spring from the 2nd century occult cult of the Sabians, and the Quraish pagan Star Family worshipers, and he failed to produce evidence to refute that claim.
http://www.petewaldo.com/hajj_umrah.htmhttp://www.petewaldo.com/sabians_islam.htmHe failed to explain how Ibn Ishak and the rest of the boys who created thousands of years of Islamic so-called "tradition", knew what had transpired during the thousands of years before them. Made laughable by the mathematics computing that Arabian generations are 66 years long.
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=2557.msg10488#msg10488What we can see through the history of this chat, and others with Psy, that his claim to have "refuted" something actually means is that he simply
denied the facts, without any basis whatsoever for that denial.
Because his beliefs are based on 7th and 8th century historical fiction, that poses as thousands of years of pre-muhammad history, he feels compelled to attempt to refute the 1600 year record of Yahweh to mankind through ALL of His prophets and witnesses, that His people have followed through two covenants for 35000 years, with the EXACT OPPOSITE as declared by the false prophet Muhammad's in 23 year 7th century record. This because Psy was taught to believe that when Muhammad declared that he spoke for the Quraish pagan's "Allah", that he did in fact speak for the Quraish pagan's "Allah".
This while even Muhammad's polytheist pagan father's name was "Abdullah" which means "slave of Allah". Since the Quraish worshiped 360 idols with Allah among them, the only reasonable conclusion that can be drawn is that Muhammad's father was indeed, a slave of Satan.
Indeed, Muhammad's record condemns itself, since it's author was guilty of filling his record with so much contradiction, that he then had to institute a doctrine of abrogation. Ironically, we find Muhammad's mind worked just as his followers mind's do as we witness in this thread, believing that simply declaring something will somehow make it magically come true. Muhammad declared that no verses in the Quran are abrogated, while simultaneously claiming that later "revelations", or "stages" "substitute something better" for the the earlier "revelations". In other words, his later "revelations" effectively turn his earlier "revelations", into falsehood. For example Muhammad's later, hatred of Jews, slaughter, rape of captives, and theft of the property of the vanquished non-muslims through imperialistic conquest, are the "better" "substitutes" for his earlier more peaceful pre-Hijra "revelations".
http://islamchristianforum.com/index.php?topic=116.0http://www.youtube.com/user/BonjourNuit120#p/fpart 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COFBC-E9kTc
